Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This

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Yes I compared it to PLanetes.
I'm not backing down from that either. It feels similar to me.
It does have different pacing, but I don't care. I love the details.
I like it better than if they had just thrown her into the captains chair and sent her out totally unprepared. That would make it like Irresponsible Captain Tylor and a lot of other shows that just throw the main character into a situation. This one decided to take it time. I am fine with that.

Planetes had a set goal on what the characters were doing from the very first episode, so far we don't know what the hell this pirating entails exactly other than they're the shichibukai and we're 4 episodes in.

Milky Holmes - 03

A new record was broken this day, Subaru needs to take some tips.

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If I remember, I'll try to reply to some of your other points, but I'll just say that SatoJun's Aria also features exposition - you have the girls explaining how gondolas work, you have some dudes talking about how they maintain the weather and gravity on Mars, and you have a lot of Venetian-phillia that Anthony Bourdain would be proud of. But because the anime follows the "show don't tell" rule of writing, it never feels tedious to watch.
Having guys explain stuff to each other while tapping on consoles or sitting around in a briefing room is rarely interesting.
(Which, incidentally, is what happens in probably every single Star Trek episode).

The show was interesting to me. It just clicks with my interests, and I appreciate them explaining how everything works. As I said, there are plenty enough anime out there that go the Maru route and that's fine, but sometimes I enjoy a show that takes its time to explain its world. Could they have thrown in a bone or two with some action sequences? Yes I think they could. But it hasn't really been necessary and I can tell the show is building towards some exciting stuff. I think people definitely need to wait for more episodes to come out and then when shit starts getting real, they can marathon it.
 
The show was interesting to me. It just clicks with my interests, and I appreciate them explaining how everything works. As I said, there are plenty enough anime out there that go the Maru route and that's fine, but sometimes I enjoy a show that takes its time to explain its world. Could they have thrown in a bone or two with some action sequences? Yes I think they could. But it hasn't really been necessary and I can tell the show is building towards some exciting stuff. I think people definitely need to wait for more episodes to come out and then when shit starts getting real, they can marathon it.
I'm the last person who wants ships blowing up and whatnot, but that stuff is just boring science fiction.
I understand tapping on a keyboard is probably the least exciting thing that you can show on screen, but at that point your writers need to figure out a way to avoid having hacking scenes altogether.
As for explaining the world - they've spent so much time explaining technology that Marika doesn't really take the time to even ask what kind of man her father was.
 
Blame Imagawa. The Nagai version of Mazinger Z's doesn't end with that cliff hanger...
A certain someone pops up and rescues Kouji.
Imagawa changed a lot of stuff from the story (like giving less focus to Sayaka and Boss, and introducing a much more relevant role to Kouji's mother, who's just dead in the original, and making Ashura's role much more relevant) and also decided to end the story before the
Great Mazinger's official debut (although it does get a cameo in Shin Mazinger, as the shadow that appears near the destroyed lab for a moment)
.

So you're saying he made it way awesome?
 
Anime-GAF, I need your help deciding which show I should watch next. Here are the contenders:

Cowboy Bepop

Revolutionary Girl Utena (Student Council Saga only, as I don’t own the other boxsets currently)

Xam’d: Lost Memories
 
Anime-GAF, I need your help deciding which show I should watch next. Here are the contenders:

Cowboy Bepop

Revolutionary Girl Utena (Student Council Saga only, as I don’t own the other boxsets currently)

Xam’d: Lost Memories

Cowboy Bebop and Utena are required viewing for anyone. Forget about Xam'd
 
Kurogane no Linebarrels 1

Why is everyone wearing eyeliner?

I like how Kouichi goes from wimpy (albeit with a twist) to relatively badass and hotblooded in the span of 1 episode. That's promising.
 
International shipping's not that painful once you get used to it.
Come, join us.

RightStuf has some figures and other merch too. Most of the prices seem pretty comparable to what you'd pay with international shipping though...

Also, international shipping isn't that bad if you stick to SAL and not EMS or something.
 
RightStuf has some figures and other merch too. Most of the prices seem pretty comparable to what you'd pay with international shipping though...

Also, international shipping isn't that bad if you stick to SAL and not EMS or something.

I have bought a few things straight from Japan and shipped here, but I dont know moonspeak so it's kind of difficult to find a lot of specific things.
 
Another 04: 50% awful animation, 5% scary shit, 95%
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I'll drop this show. The mystery is not mysterious, the characters are not intriguing, and the scares rely more on shock value than being actually structured.
The deaths are quite gruesome, but I could watch a highlight reel for that.

My "currently-watching" list getting thinner gives me nice feelings.
 
I was thinking in more of a "start at the bottom, work your way up" sense. But yours works too.

Here I thought you were going for the jugular again.

Anime-GAF, I need your help deciding which show I should watch next. Here are the contenders:

Cowboy Bepop

Revolutionary Girl Utena (Student Council Saga only, as I don’t own the other boxsets currently)

Xam’d: Lost Memories

Bebop is almost essential viewing. Xam'd if you have time to waste. I can't say anything about Utena (yet...)
 
Another - 04

We have a Final Destination situation on our hands people
I had the nurse marked with the death flag since episode 1, surprised it took this long.
And everyone is still being a dick in not telling main character the rules, they even spent a couple of minutes delegating that very issue, I'm sorry it can't be justified that you can't tell him after the first day, especially when he's breaking the conditions on his own without a clue in the world.

And that is the main reason why any tension in this show is nonexistant, and with everyone acting like a prick, means I don't care if the whole classroom gets wiped out, so all I've got is looking forward to some good death scenes every episode.
 
Anime-GAF, I need your help deciding which show I should watch next. Here are the contenders:

Cowboy Bepop

Revolutionary Girl Utena (Student Council Saga only, as I don’t own the other boxsets currently)

Xam’d: Lost Memories
Bebop first, then Utena when you've got the rest of the boxsets. I haven't seen Xam'd but I haven't heard good things about it.
 
Anime-GAF, I need your help deciding which show I should watch next. Here are the contenders:

Cowboy Bepop

Revolutionary Girl Utena (Student Council Saga only, as I don’t own the other boxsets currently)

Xam’d: Lost Memories

As much as I find Bebop to be overrated it's definitely the best of that group and by a substantial margin.
 
Anime-GAF, I need your help deciding which show I should watch next. Here are the contenders:

Cowboy Bepop

Revolutionary Girl Utena (Student Council Saga only, as I don’t own the other boxsets currently)

Xam’d: Lost Memories

You have two 'essential' shows there, followed by one 'okay' show. Really, anything but X'amd.
 
Moe Star Trek 2

THOSE. ARE. THE. MOST. AWESOME. GUNS. I. HAVE. EVER. FUCKING. SEEN.

Looks like they are prepping the ship and starting her training. I love all the explanatory stuff. I eat that shit up. I will veryl ikely enjoy the hell out of the rest of this show.
Chiaki is super HNNNNNGHHHHH <3 <3 <3
I also like that green haired character.
Yeah, it's great stuff... :)

Awesome Space Pirates 3

I LOVE THIS.
Damn this is a really well detailed and carefully thought out series.
I love the design of the ship and the spacewalk sequence. This reminds me a lot of Planetes and that's a REALLY good thing. So many delicious details to soak up here. The bridge design is clever too.
Yeah, I thought of Planetes some too, except unlike Planetes, Space Pirates is optimistic, not serially depressing and tragic. I much prefer the optimism, myself.

... The humor's not painfully awful like Planetes' was, either. I didn't exactly love Planetes, though... I could see why people like it, but didn't so much myself overall.

Space Moe Pirates 4

OK yeah. I definitely love this a lot.
So technical. So HNNNNG. Sold.
Also, the soundtrack is fucking amazing. Maybe even better than Rinne's. I especially love the Celtic influenced and electronic music. I feel like there is so much to learn about this ship and how this world works. Its going to be really fun to find out.
I also fully expect speculations and ship schematics to start popping up around the net really soon.
They do indeed put some real effort into the tech, yeah. That's a welcome suprise in anime, you don't see that too often I think. And as for the music, I think that it's "pirate music"-inspired -- it feels appropriately piratey to me. Good stuff indeed.

While DS9 is my favourite, I still enjoy seeing that type of optimism in a show. As dark as DS9 was, when compared to the recent Battlestar Galactica, it is child's play. I liked BSG but I don't see myself going back and watching it a second time. With Star Trek, I can see myself coming back to it many times through out life and never finding it to wear thin.
Yeah, the new BSG is just too bleak and depressing. I watched it for a while when it came out, but stopped somewhere after the first season, I believe... it was just too dark.

On the other hand, yes, I still love Star Trek, and Voyager is certainly my favorite of the TV series. :)

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the fact that Fractale had Kana Hanazawa and ended up being pretty boring despite that.:P
Oh, something about a voice actor. You can probably guess my response to that, I could care less.

When I think Star Trek, the last which comes to mind is moe.
Star Trek itself, yeah, but Space Pirates is different. :)

Thinking about it now, i'm almost beginning to think that Space Pirates is just going to be a show to marathon, and not a show to watch week by week.
It's tolerable as a weekly show, but yeah, it'd be best marathoned, I agree. I think the best example of a show that really should be watched all at once on now is probably Last Exile, the waits are so agonizing between episodes that I kind of stopped watching not because I don't love it, but because I think I just want to watch it all at once... the tension between episodes in that series is too cruel.

The first episode of Planetes had more action and story progression than all four Pirates episodes.
Certainly wasn't as good though. :)

Pirates has just big pacing problems. I mean we still don't know more about all the characters or the world than after the first episode just some technobubble about the ship.
Those pacing problems you're talking about just aren't there though... maybe a little bit while they were on the planet, but since they took off into space, certainly not.

Moretsu Pirates 4


Been wondering... How do skirts stay down in zero g?
Magic. That is why they're called magic skirts, yes? :)

Yes I compared it to PLanetes.
I'm not backing down from that either. It feels similar to me.
It does have different pacing, but I don't care. I love the details.
I like it better than if they had just thrown her into the captains chair and sent her out totally unprepared. That would make it like Irresponsible Captain Tylor and a lot of other shows that just throw the main character into a situation. This one decided to take it time. I am fine with that.
Agreed on all points, yes.

If I remember, I'll try to reply to some of your other points, but I'll just say that SatoJun's Aria also features exposition - you have the girls explaining how gondolas work, you have some dudes talking about how they maintain the weather and gravity on Mars, and you have a lot of Venetian-phillia that Anthony Bourdain would be proud of. But because the anime follows the "show don't tell" rule of writing, it never feels tedious to watch.
Having guys explain stuff to each other while tapping on consoles or sitting around in a briefing room is rarely interesting.
(Which, incidentally, is what happens in probably every single Star Trek episode).
That's fine in Star Trek, and is perfectly good here too.

Planetes had a set goal on what the characters were doing from the very first episode, so far we don't know what the hell this pirating entails exactly other than they're the shichibukai and we're 4 episodes in.
As cajunator said, it makes so much more sense this way... anime usually tosses people who should be completely unprepared into these situations and magically has them be good enough anyway, but it makes more sense when it's a more gradual process, as it is here.

Sure, there are plenty of pretty good shows that use that style, I agree, but this way does make more sense and is a good approach.

Milky Holmes - 03

A new record was broken this day, Subaru needs to take some tips.

Hidden-Melons.gif
Woah. Indeed, that might be a new record.

I'm the last person who wants ships blowing up and whatnot, but that stuff is just boring science fiction.
I understand tapping on a keyboard is probably the least exciting thing that you can show on screen, but at that point your writers need to figure out a way to avoid having hacking scenes altogether.
As for explaining the world - they've spent so much time explaining technology that Marika doesn't really take the time to even ask what kind of man her father was.
But if you're say8ing that you don't like the pacing, it seems to me that what you are saying is that you do want more explosions and less details of spaceflight, but the way they're doing things is so interesting, I would not want it that way!

It's not just tapping on a keyboard, it's an electronic struggle between two ships, and it's got plenty of tension I think.
 
It's not just tapping on a keyboard, it's an electronic struggle between two ships, and it's got plenty of tension I think.

Sorry, thought this was amusing. Reminded me of Horizon and its chatterthons.

It's not just two people talking on a bridge for twenty minutes, it's a political struggle between two countries.
 
I'm the last person who wants ships blowing up and whatnot, but that stuff is just boring science fiction.
I understand tapping on a keyboard is probably the least exciting thing that you can show on screen, but at that point your writers need to figure out a way to avoid having hacking scenes altogether.
As for explaining the world - they've spent so much time explaining technology that Marika doesn't really take the time to even ask what kind of man her father was.

Yeah, it's not the absence of action that's the problem. Detailed depictions of technology are great, but that technology has to have some sense of presence beyond a monitor or technical terminology becomes pretty disposable. It may be more realistic for the operations of a spacefaring vessel to be controlled completely through a computer interface, but it's not engaging.

I don't think that anyone is criticizing the show just for using technobabble, but the sheer quantity of mundane ship operations being vocally described combined with the dullness of talking heads staring at monitors in a control room is a recipe for boredom. Some people think that the glut of terminology is "attention to detail", I just happen to disagree and think it's stretching for time.

About the hacking, I understand that for some people it might successfully create tension as a kind of cat-and-mouse game or detective story, but for me, I feel the same way about watching someone else do complicated computer work as I do watching someone else play video games: probably really fun for the person doing it, but far less so for me. The monitor should at least have some crazy representational shit going on like Radical Ed's computer in Bebop.

The best parts of the past couple of Mouretsu episodes were the scenes where more of the ship was on display and actual non-computer cooperation was required among the crew.
Fixing the stuck sail
was a high point, as was the
"pinging"
scene when it was deduced that
the ghost ship was an illusion
. That's the kind of stuff I want to see when the focus of the show shifts from characters to ship operations. Not just offhand references to technology, but its actual application.
 
Yeah, it's not the absence of action that's the problem. Detailed depictions of technology are great, but that technology has to have some sense of presence beyond a monitor or technical terminology becomes pretty disposable. It may be more realistic for the operations of a spacefaring vessel to be controlled completely through a computer interface, but it's not engaging.

I don't think that anyone is criticizing the show just for using technobabble, but the sheer quantity of mundane ship operations being vocally described combined with the dullness of talking heads staring at monitors in a control room is a recipe for boredom. Some people think that the glut of terminology is "attention to detail", I just happen to disagree and think it's stretching for time.

About the hacking, I understand that for some people it might successfully create tension as a kind of cat-and-mouse game or detective story, but for me, I feel the same way about watching someone else do complicated computer work as I do watching someone else play video games: probably really fun for the person doing it, but far less so for me. The monitor should at least have some crazy representational shit going on like Radical Ed's computer in Bebop.

The best parts of the past couple of Mouretsu episodes were the scenes where more of the ship was on display and actual non-computer cooperation was required among the crew.
Fixing the stuck sail
was a high point, as was the
"pinging"
scene when it was deduced that
the ghost ship was an illusion
. That's the kind of stuff I want to see when the focus of the show shifts from characters to ship operations. Not just offhand references to technology, but its actual application.

I kind of agree with you that they should apply the tech a bit more than just talking about it, but they are starting to. I think it will start to have a better pace from here on out.
Its one of those slow burning series, but I can really see it "taking off" at this point.
Now that they are accustomed to the ship and how it functions, the real fun can begin. But I appreciate them taking the time to set things up, thats all.
 
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