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Nero3000 said:
I reckon for MWC we will see:

*Skype (finally)
*Show Tango but more around boasting about its massive language support (and hopefully huge marketplace footprint)
*Teaser for WP8 (similar to what they did at CES2011

*New samsung/htc phones
*EU variant of Lumia 900
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What did they tease at CES'11?
 
BlueTsunami said:
So if you're on T-Mobile and want to use the Lumia 800 you have to buy an unlocked Lumia 800 (off contract) and it won't be able to use 3G? I mean, I like the Lumia 710, seems like a capable phone but stylistically I love the Lumia 800 so much more. Its too bad you have to make some serious compromises with it.
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This is correct no current 800 supports 3G for TMobile US. I really want to update the old lady to a Pink 800 but it's pointless without 3G
 
brotkasten said:
They demoed NoDo at CES and Mango at MWC last year.
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I love this OS but I wish they were more vocal about their updates (don't have to show your whole hand) and pushed more features out at a faster pace (figure out a way to get the carriers out of the update process). They're playing catch up and need to really get this OS in position to play in the Low, Medium, High, and Hero phone market.

Also where are the IE9 updates? IE9 was supposed to be pulled out from the OS and upgradable separately like an app. Where are those updates? Give me find on page back, and add some features to the browser.

Actually scratch all that just give me a Lumia 900 :)
 
I really like the Nokia Lumia Momentum Map.
http://events.nokia.com/lumiamomentummap/

Pretty well done.

hwalker84 said:
I love this OS but I wish they were more vocal about their updates (don't have to show your whole hand) and pushed more features out at a faster pace (figure out a way to get the carriers out of the update process). They're playing catch up and need to really get this OS in position to play in the Low, Medium, High, and Hero phone market.

Also were are the IE9 updates? IE9 was supposed to be pulled out from the OS and upgradable separately like an app. Where are those updates? Give me find on page back, and add some features to the browser.

Actually scratch all that just give me a Lumia 900 :)
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I actually think the update pace is pretty good, it's just that they started with little features, so the pressure is higher. A feature update every six months should be enough. We're supposed to get Tango in H1 2012 and Apollo in H2 2012.
 
hwalker84 said:
I love this OS but I wish they were more vocal about their updates (don't have to show your whole hand) and pushed more features out at a faster pace (figure out a way to get the carriers out of the update process). They're playing catch up and need to really get this OS in position to play in the Low, Medium, High, and Hero phone market.

Also where are the IE9 updates? IE9 was supposed to be pulled out from the OS and upgradable separately like an app. Where are those updates? Give me find on page back, and add some features to the browser.

Actually scratch all that just give me a Lumia 900 :)
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It might feel that way, but I wouldn't say they are slow. With Mango they got a lot done within a year. I'm expecting big things for Apollo.
 
Anyone seen any WP7 home icons without white letters? Are they all required to be white (which means using white backgrounds is not so smart)? I have an icon here like that and of course you can't see the title of the name this way
 
Teetris said:
Anyone seen any WP7 home icons without white letters? Are they all required to be white (which means using white backgrounds is not so smart)? I have an icon here like that and of course you can't see the title of the name this way
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What is the background color of the tile itself? The tile background should differentiate from the light or dark background color regardless. And you cannot select a white accent color.
 
Teetris said:
Anyone seen any WP7 home icons without white letters? Are they all required to be white (which means using white backgrounds is not so smart)? I have an icon here like that and of course you can't see the title of the name this way
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I'm using the same theme as Van (white BG, Mango tiles) and I can read the text just fine. What's the color of the tile?
 
JaggedSac said:
What is the background color of the tile itself? The tile background should differentiate from the light or dark background color regardless. And you cannot select a white accent color.
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Red (dev unlocked), switching from light/dark theme doesn't make a difference I think, text stays white on tiles

brotkasten said:
I'm using the same theme as Van (white BG, Mango tiles) and I can read the text just fine. What's the color of the tile?
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Here's a pic (via emulator)

http://i.imgur.com/Xpxyt.png
 
Just got a Titan (work phone) and loving it. My actual phone is a blackberry so yeah hahaha.

I've read the OP is there anything else useful know?
 
brotkasten said:
Text on tiles remains white, the size of the icon needs to be reduced.
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I hadn't thought of that, seems like the best solution for this particular tile, thanks. But still a shame if you want a full screen icon you have to work with dark backgrounds on it
 
Anyone been able to get a replacement from HTC for a Titan which has the muffled mic? Everytime I call they tell me its a known issue and there's nothing they can do but to sit tight.

Pisses me off because what good is a phone which I can't make calls with. Shouldn't manufacturers warranty cover this?
 
Tapiozona said:
Anyone been able to get a replacement from HTC for a Titan which has the muffled mic? Everytime I call they tell me its a known issue and there's nothing they can do but to sit tight.

Pisses me off because what good is a phone which I can't make calls with. Shouldn't manufacturers warranty cover this?
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Can't you ask your carrier or did you buy it off contract?
 
Tapiozona said:
Anyone been able to get a replacement from HTC for a Titan which has the muffled mic? Everytime I call they tell me its a known issue and there's nothing they can do but to sit tight.

Pisses me off because what good is a phone which I can't make calls with. Shouldn't manufacturers warranty cover this?
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Did they say if it was a hardware or software issue?
 
PocketNow's awesome as ever. Looks like they got some info on Windows Phone 8.


Hardware changes

According to Belfiore, the overarching theme with regards to the Windows Phone 8 hardware ecosystem will be scale and choice. Specifically, Apollo will add support for multicore processors, new screen resolutions (a total of four, although actual pixel counts weren't specified), and removable microSD card storage. It's clear that Microsoft is addressing one of the platform's pain points, which is a perceived inability to compete in spec sheet comparisons with the iPhone and Android-based devices.

NFC radios will also be supported, with Belfiore placing specific emphasis on 8's push into contactless payments. The "Wallet experience," as he calls it, will have to capability to be carrier-branded and controlled, either by a secure element on the SIM card or utilizing hardware in the phone itself. In addition, tap-to-share capabilities will reportedly work across multiple platforms, allowing desktops, laptops, tablets, and phones to all share content.

Windows 8 integration

Windows Phone 8 won't just share a UI with the next-generation desktop and tablet OS, apparently: it will use many of the same components as Windows 8, allowing developers to "reuse -- by far -- most of their code" when porting an app from desktop to phone, according to Belfiore. He specifically mentions the kernel, networking stacks, security, and multimedia support as areas of heavy overlap.

Moreover, Windows Phone 8 will reportedly scrap integration with the desktop Zune client in favor of a syncing relationship with a dedicated companion application. In other words, Microsoft is bringing back a (presumably) richer version of ActiveSync after letting that program die out for the most part.

The Xbox Companion app, currently found on Windows Phones, will see a partner client on Windows 8. Skydrive support promises seamless sharing of data between devices; Belfiore gives the example of instantly having one's music collection available on a newly-purchased Windows Phone, without the need for a PC sync.

It sounds like the tagline for this so-called Windows 2012 relaunch, or "Windows reimagined," will be "The New Familiar."

Application ecosystem

Microsoft expects 100,000 apps to be in the Marketplace (tipped for imminent worldwide availability) at the launch of Windows Phone 8 -- rumored by WMPoweruser as happening sometime in the fourth quarter. The biggest news on the app front is probably the addition of native code support, which will enable more powerful applications as well as ease the porting of code from programs initially developed for iOS or Android.

Also mentioned is support for app-to-app communication, as well as a revamped Skype client that hooks directly into the OS, letting Skype calls behave almost identically to regular, non-VoIP telephony. The camera will now be based around so-called lens apps: Microsoft provides a basic camera interface that can either be skinned by OEMs or overlayed with viewfinders from third-parties. Belfiore gives the example of a lens app that combines burst mode with smile detection to capture a perfect portrait shot.

Data management

One of the main highlights of the overview was a feature called DataSmart, which aims to reduce, and simplify the tracking of, data usage. Besides providing a breakdown of data consumption, as other platforms already do, Windows Phone 8 will actively attempt to give Wi-Fi connections precedence, going so far as to automatically connect to carrier-owned WLANs when in range. To that end, the Local Scout feature of Bing Maps will enable the real-time location of nearby hotspots. Data usage will also be made glanceable thanks to a live tile.

Perhaps most interesting is Windows Phone 8's planned use of a proxy server to feed pages to Internet Explorer 10. Like Opera Mini and the Skyfire of old, this service uses server-side compression to reduce the amount of data required to view websites -- in this case, by a claimed 30%.

Business support

In an attempt to recapture the enterprise, Windows Phone 8 is said to add native BitLocker encryption -- the same 128-bit, full-disk encryption found on Microsoft most recent desktop platforms. So-called "line-of-business" applications are also gaining support, allowing businesses to deploy proprietary, tailored software behind their company firewalls.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/exclusive-windows-phone-8-detailed

Wait for Apollo!
 
claviertekky said:
Before the edit, he said he felt like those notes were similar to the Android Gingerbread release notes.
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That's cold clavier.

lastflowers said:
wowzers. I'm looking forward to a demo of NFC scenarios. I really want to see that technology get good usage somehow.
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It's pretty good for automatizing actions, assuming the OS will give you access to it. Like tap an nfc chip you're set up previously and it will, turnon wifi/disable lockscreen/launch htpc remote, all with a single tap. Demo with jank involved.
 
claviertekky said:
Before the edit, he said he felt like those notes were similar to the Android Gingerbread release notes.
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Ah, yes. I can see that. A classic CoCo. <3 Got the same "hey, it reminds me of something I know ..." feeling when I saw the ICS keynote.

hwalker84 said:
Zune Pass
Phone Backup
App Management
App Store
etc

They'd be going backwards if the app was thrown out.
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Why would you need the Zune Desktop Client for that? It doesn't do backups (it just creates full images when an updates comes out, which isn't the same) or app management, the web marketplace will be a web app and there's no "etc".
 
brotkasten said:
Ah, yes. I can see that. Got the same "hey, I reminds me of something I know ..." feeling when I saw the ICS keynote.


Why would you need the Zune Desktop Client for that? It doesn't do backups (it just creates full images, when an updates comes out, which isn't the same) or app management, the web page will be a web app and there's no "etc".
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What I'm saying is it doesn't jive with the facts. It's been stated that full backups and restores are on the way. They're not moving away from the Zune client i guarantee.
 
hwalker84 said:
What I'm saying is it doesn't jive with the facts. It's been stated that full backups and restores are on the way. They're not moving away from the Zune client i guarantee.
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They never said the new features would be part of the new Zune Desktop Client. Those are features of the new sync software.

Zune.
Is.
Dead.
 
All I need to know now is if Apollo will run on the Lumia 900. Personally i will be pretty surprised if it doesn't. Probably won't get a new phone until June so we should know by then. Bring on the leaks.
 
ElNino said:
As long as I've got my HD it won't be to me.
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Still love it.

hwalker84 said:
Hey if they kill Zune and have a totally new program that handles everything i won't complain.
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That's what the text says.

D4Danger said:
they should bring back the Kin Studio while they're at it. That was the only good thing about that product.
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They're working on it.
 
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