[Anime] Your "Controversial" Opinions
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Exactly. The Water 7 Arc in particular is what changed it from a "this is a pretty good show" to "#%^#$% this is amazing" for me.
Crash Station
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High standards are fine, but have you actually tried any of the stuff I listed? If you have and didn't like them, than fine but I still have my doubts that you've really tried the best the genre has to offer. That's fine too, but don't go grouping them all together like that.
You should try Blue Exorcist. It's Soul Eater + Naruto with more fangirl appeal.
ashleyj1988
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MY opinions:
-Naruto and FMA suck (just can't get into them, but my friends LOVE them!).
-Bleach is amazing but full of filler :/ sometimes I feel like I force myself to watch it.
-Sekirei is an amazing anime. I would never think I would be into this type of anime, but it delivers exactly what most fans want.
-High School of the Dead was amazing and I can't understand why none of my friends decided to tell me this since I love zombies?!
This is just based off recent animes I have watched or attempted again. Most my friends love anything anime it seems like, some just don't fall into my "taste"
-Naruto and FMA suck (just can't get into them, but my friends LOVE them!).
-Bleach is amazing but full of filler :/ sometimes I feel like I force myself to watch it.
-Sekirei is an amazing anime. I would never think I would be into this type of anime, but it delivers exactly what most fans want.
-High School of the Dead was amazing and I can't understand why none of my friends decided to tell me this since I love zombies?!
This is just based off recent animes I have watched or attempted again. Most my friends love anything anime it seems like, some just don't fall into my "taste"
You should check out old Hunter x hunter it's around 60eps( shorter then yhh) and better then both of those(yes it even looks good).
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Better than Soul Eater? Sure.
But better than YYH? Fuck that shit. YYH didn't dwadle despite having "filler" fights. What I hate about HxH, particularly towards the introduction of the Spider gang is that the pacing is very, very slow, like Shippuden level of slowness. Pacing is a problem many an anime suffer and I am glad YYH has none of that.
And don't get me started on the city arc where Gon and that white haired kid (forgot his name) are searching for a video game. Ugh...
ashleyj1988
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Oh I loved Soul Eater. I've had my eyes on the Blu-ray sets for a while hoping to catch a deal since I missed out on the amazon sale recently. I also enjoyed Deathnote a lot. Trigun was a classic as well. I've been told to watch Gungrave, which I believe is on Netflix, so I might like another anime soon. I've also watched DB, DBZ, DBZ GT (old ones, not this kai stuff) and Yu Yu Hakusho....I liked them, just not the very long fights. I am sure there are more but that is all I can think of at the moment
How about Cromartie High School? lol I thought that was funny
How about Cromartie High School? lol I thought that was funny
Femmeworth
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I already know the soundtrack is nice, but when you say, "fangirl appeal" what exactly does that entail?
gatotsu911
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What?
AKA handlers exploit the girls' affections to get them to follow orders.
Funny you talk about paceing YYH starts off with weak introduction episodes and with badly paced arcs like the one botan and his childhood friends get chased by zombies for mutiple episode then in a later arc by bees.
hunter x hunter has better paceing then YHH.
YHH is great but togashi has massively improved to go on to make hunter x hunter.
Mortrialus
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Soul Eater is good. It also has one of the best openings ever. Seriously, the number 1 reason why I started watching it was because I someone linked me the first opening and it got me so hyped I had to watch it. The show has great style, a cool world and it's a lot of fun, but it seemed like it was still chained some of the worse aspects of Shonen. I think what immediately comes to mind is the humor. A great example of this is the first episode, after a cool opening fight, the parts when they introduce Maka's dad is just painful to watch. It's that really obnoxious, unfunny naruto-style shonen humor that apparently every shonen show has to have. There is some funny stuff like Crona and Ragnarok, Death the Kid most of the time, Excalibur, and if they were going to have comic relief they should have kept it to that rather than the stock "Girl gets mad and hits romantic interest!" which I think think has ever been funny and even then was really played out. Its these types of things that bug me about the show. The show deviates from a lot of the major complaints about shonen tournament fighters, particularly the pacing and filler, but it still seems a bit mired in it. And this is still during the good parts of the show.
Cowboy Bebop is overrated and Samurai Champloo is better
Granted I've only finished about 75% of bebop, but considering that everyone says that the good episodes are the last few episodes of the season, I can comfortably call this series overrated. A show should strive to be good in 100% of its episodes not the last 5. Champloo went on fairly strong for much of its run(granted by the middle there were some filler type episodes) but it was much more consistent than Beobop.
Granted I've only finished about 75% of bebop, but considering that everyone says that the good episodes are the last few episodes of the season, I can comfortably call this series overrated. A show should strive to be good in 100% of its episodes not the last 5. Champloo went on fairly strong for much of its run(granted by the middle there were some filler type episodes) but it was much more consistent than Beobop.
Typographenia
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Having seen both series, I still don't understand when people say things like this.
It must have to be a difference in tastes or something.
Crash Station
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More yaoi fanart/shipping.
I'm sorry to hear that. I would say give it another shot though since the major arc following it blows everything before out of the water, even the Baroque Works saga.
Attackthebase
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You make it sound like I'll never have the chance to return to the show. Seeing the love for the non-filler arc after Skypiea, I'll give One Piece another go. I really did love the Alabasta arc.
Crash Station
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When I say it's like Naruto, I just mean in the sense the main character has a demon inside of him and everyone is a dick to him/won't acknowledge him at first. Everything from the world to the sense of style to the characters to even the fights themselves scream "SOUL EATER".
It's even directed by the same guy who did soul eater, even the whole school thing is very much like soul eater.
Besides the first half finale and what I'm assuming to be the last 5 episodes(on 20 right now)the rest of the show is just literally filler. When a show has 75% of its episodes that are filler, I can't help but think that it's overrated.
Femmeworth
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I was afraid of that. No thanks.
Mortrialus
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It's not filler. They're episodic vignettes. You know, kind of like every single show from your avatar.
Tensai Okamura worked on Soul Eater but he didn't direct it. He directed Medabots, Wolf's Rain, Darker than Black (both seasons.)
gatotsu911
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I got that part.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
While I do agree that the start of YYH they were still finding ground, it still managed to find its pace early on (Toguro introduction is where it shines). Can't say the same for HxH, where they can't seem to decide what to do (there's that hunter arc, then they stopped hunting for Killuwa, then some shit about training Nen, then the spider syndicate, then video gaems).
that's called variety, it's a nice thing to get a change of pace from the fight after fight and more tournaments.
gatotsu911
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I liked both series but I'd actually have to agree with him. Champloo never reaches the same high points as Bebop's best episodes, but it's more consistently entertaining to watch. The duds are fewer and farther between.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Variety is nice but the way they made it feel like they lack focus. I mean, YYH highlights were pretty much continuous and reliant on one another. There are only two tournament arcs in YYH, and the last one is in fact dealt with quickly even (as opposed to a full arc dedicated to it). Also, with each arc there's a feeling of satisfaction despite knowing that there is still something to follow with.
Hellsing321
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Crash Station
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After watching episode 15, I just have to say Guilty Crown is amazing. Might be too early to judge if that's controversial or not, but yeah.
Femmeworth
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That's the wrong scene for that quote. >_<
Which kind of makes it unintentionally(?) funnier.
Considering it seems like everyone else is having the exact opposite reaction, yeah I think that is on the controversial side.
perfectnight
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Guilty Crown is offensively bad. I can't even comprehend how one could form a positive opinion of it.
Regulus Tera
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Gotta admit the ending and opening songs were the one thing I honestly enjoyed about Inuyasha.
AnimeGAF is thankfully not animesuki, so this is not controversial over here.
No that's not controversial, it's true. Especially so for adaptations of from other mediums (though I guess the same is true for any cross media adaptation).
Regulus Tera
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It's not controversial because Sturgeon already stated it decades ago.
Femmeworth
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cosmicblizzard, that's how.
sadly I have to agree.
However I highly recommend:Berserk, Eureka Seven, and Death Note.
I don't watch anime anymore. But for some 2 years I watched them daily.
90s was the golden age of truly great anime (70s and 80s gain honourable mention). The rise of moe in the past decade turned the entire idea of anime into crap. I was once totally obsessed with anime, but 2007 was the first time that I truly felt that there was a lot of crap being shown despite there being more anime than there ever was.
Anime just isn't as good now.
Anime just isn't as good now.
Mortrialus
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Yeah. I remember watching Inuyasha on adult swim because I didn't have a computer at the time and being shocked at how good the song was in comparison to the show.
well
they're also lesser known because the moe titles are the ones you always hear about
(also the ones with the largest budget)
its not surprising that a lot of people assume that anime has changed when the frontrunners are different
Edited my earlier post, but yes, I didn't have much of a problem with early 2000 stuff. That was still good.
That list isn't just early 2000 stuff.
Mortrialus
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While "turned the whole industry into crap" is definitely hyperbole, it is just as ignorant to say that moe hasn't over-saturated the anime market.
Except that you're implying that I think it's ALL moe. If that's what you think I implied, well, it isn't.
I look at that list you linked to and I can safely say that I have a seen A LOT of stuff that isn't on there that I truly enjoyed, most of them unlicensed.
Well that's not really here are there. You said "The rise of moe in the past decade turned the entire idea of anime into crap," but good anime is still being made.
S.Empiricus
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Wow, thanks for the link. It's nice to know it isn't all bad. Too bad so much of it is hard to get.
I wasn't generalization all anime fans, just specific sects. In this case, a group who would watch GS Girl for little girl fantasies.
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