PS Vita US Launch Details (Launch Games, Accessory Pricing)

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Jtwo said:
I don't care that a handheld hasn't done it. I don't care that Vita is a handheld at all. Its just another thing to play games on. And right now I desperately need a new thing to play games on. The PSPGo was in absolutely no way all DD from the start. The PSPGo was a PSP without the UMD slot.
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Whose games were only playable by buying them through DD...
 
Jtwo said:
You know what. Here is my one totem of excitement actually. I had forgotten about this in all my negative points. Its Digital Distribution. This is the first gaming-first device that is starting out with all DD all the time. Straight from the get go. That does excite me.
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iPhone?
 
Jtwo why are you asking us if you should be excited? What are you an infant? You want us to wipe and powder you too? You don't need to have the Vita, christ grow up you don't need sex toys in your life to feel valuable. Just move on or come back when you realized you may want it. Its not our job to shake rattles at you, thats what Sony gets paid for.

Now if you want to actually have a conversation instead of being a babby then I can direct you to some titles I like. otherwise you are just being a corny troll and its not surprising people are throwing peanuts to see your tricks.
 
I was overcome by the sexiness so much the other night I forgot I was in a GameStop. Now, do I spend $400 to play baseball and golf on the go? My gut and wallet say, "Hell no!!"....But damn, the sexiness!!!!
 
madmaxx350 said:
Whose games were only playable by buying them through DD...
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Ok, well we'll just have to disagree on what counts and what doesn't. You're not wrong. I just don't think it counts.
Marty Chinn said:
iPhone?
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Yeah, well thats why I tried to specify it as "gaming-first."

daffy said:
Jtwo why are you asking us if you should be excited?
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I'm not asking you. I'm posing the question to back up my current stance on the device. I see a lot of people excited here. I mentioned how the device struck me as thoroughly unexciting. Thanks for the offer to "point me to titles" but I have the internet and am aware of what software exists on the Vita.
 
DenogginizerOS said:
I was overcome by the sexiness so much the other night I forgot I was in a GameStop. Now, do I spend $400 to play baseball and golf on the go? My gut and wallet say, "Hell no!!"....But damn, the sexiness!!!!
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You should say no and instead drop $400 to play tennis and golf on the go. Power Smash is so so good.
 
DenogginizerOS said:
I was overcome by the sexiness so much the other night I forgot I was in a GameStop. Now, do I spend $400 to play baseball and golf on the go? My gut and wallet say, "Hell no!!"....But damn, the sexiness!!!!
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You'll be fine, just buy it now, you can worry about regretting later.

Jtwo said:
Ok, well we'll just have to disagree on what counts and what doesn't. You're not wrong. I just don't think it counts.

Yeah, well thats why I tried to specify it as "gaming-first."

I'm not asking you. I'm posing the question to back up my current stance on the device. I see a lot of people excited here. I mentioned how the device struck me as thoroughly unexciting. Thanks for the offer to "point me to titles" but I have the internet and am aware of what software exists on the Vita.
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If you have to question yourself, just ignore it and buy something you enjoy and that you find exciting.
 
daffy said:
Jtwo why are you asking us if you should be excited?
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I was gonna ask the same thing.

You don't have to be excited about anything. It seems you've made up your mind that nothing interests you. You basically shot down every major feature about the Vita as nothing new or unique so I'm not sure what you're looking for here...
 
@Jtwo Serious question (and really, anyone can chime in), but the hardware is one of the most powerful for a handheld, correct? So wouldn't the variety of powerful games on the go be enough to be excited over? The PS3 connectivity is also a plus, as I imagine a good number of PSP/PSV users probably have a PS3 as well.
 
nicoga3000 said:
@Jtwo Serious question (and really, anyone can chime in), but the hardware is one of the most powerful for a handheld, correct? So wouldn't the variety of powerful games on the go be enough to be excited over? The PS3 connectivity is also a plus, as I imagine a good number of PSP/PSV users probably have a PS3 as well.
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Not to mention Cloud saving.
 
Is the loading of PSN Vita games slower than the retail games? I'm on the fence on buying Wipeout on PSN because that's a game I will always play but I don't want to get even worse loading times.
 
nicoga3000 said:
@Jtwo Serious question (and really, anyone can chime in), but the hardware is one of the most powerful for a handheld, correct? So wouldn't the variety of powerful games on the go be enough to be excited over? The PS3 connectivity is also a plus, as I imagine a good number of PSP/PSV users probably have a PS3 as well.
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I get to play all my PSP games (except PSP and PSP2) and have new software coming in plus the PS3 connectivity is huge for me and cloud saving so yea I don't see how I wouldn't be excited about it.

Wazzim said:
Is the loading of PSN Vita games slower than the retail games? I'm on the fence on buying Wipeout on PSN because that's a game I will always play but I don't want to get even worse loading times.
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Yea, they are apparently a bit slower running on the card which I'm guessing wouldn't affect PSP games as much since I'm sure the Vita memory cards are faster than PSP ones.
 
Wazzim said:
Is the loading of PSN Vita games slower than the retail games? I'm on the fence on buying Wipeout on PSN because that's a game I will always play but I don't want to get even worse loading times.
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It is. But I'm not sure by how much.

Someone needs to do a comparison video of Wipeout.
 
Risk Breaker said:
It's weird because the more I played with it the more I liked it, and it must be one of the first times that I've tried a hardware I was hyped about and left even more convinced than I was.

I WANT ONE.

PS: Why are you guys paying so much attention to someone that only tried Little Deviants with a very negative attitude?
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I stopped reading after Jtwo stated there was no games. If there's "no games" for the Vita at launch, then the 3DS launch was complete horseshit and the hardware should burn in hell.
 
nicoga3000 said:
@Jtwo Serious question (and really, anyone can chime in), but the hardware is one of the most powerful for a handheld, correct? So wouldn't the variety of powerful games on the go be enough to be excited over? The PS3 connectivity is also a plus, as I imagine a good number of PSP/PSV users probably have a PS3 as well.
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In my eyes the fact that this thing is in a portable formfactor is completely incidental. I don't see any distinction between this, an Xbox, a PC or whatever. Its just another console. But if I were thinking of it like that, I'd have to say No. The variety of console-quality games "on the go" is not really worth getting excited about. I don't have a PS3. One of the things down the road that I really, really hope happens is Sony opening up the backcatalogue of PS3 exclusive PSN titles like Pixel Junk Eden or Flower. I never really got a chance to play that stuff and would really like to.
Soi-Fong said:
I stopped reading after Jtwo stated there was no games. If there's "no games" for the Vita at launch, then the 3DS launch was complete horseshit and the hardware should burn in hell.
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Dude. I didn't even care about the 3DS enough to post about it.
 
Marty Chinn said:
What was odd for me was the rear touch panel and how it was mapped to the screen in Little Deviants. Touching the front screen makes sense, but it's harder to figure the relation of my finger on the back to where it is on the screen. I hope not too many games use that type of precision for the rear touch panel. It's sorta annoying.
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I tried Little Deviants just for using the back touch and using only one finger on the back guide was difficult. I found myself running into the outside wall a good bit and having problems using it. I really don't think it can be used for precision like that but I am sure developers will come up with a use for it.
 
Jtwo said:
In my eyes the fact that this thing is in a portable formfactor is completely incidental. I don't see any distinction between this, an Xbox, a PC or whatever. Its just another console. But if I were thinking of it like that, I'd have to say No. The variety of console-quality games "on the go" is not really worth getting excited about. I don't have a PS3. One of the things down the road that I really, really hope happens is Sony opening up the backcatalogue of PS3 exclusive PSN titles like Pixel Junk Eden or Flower. I never really got a chance to play that stuff and would really like to.
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If the VITA is "just another console" to you, you might as well just quit gaming.
 
3DS cards are twice the thickness of Vita cards yet they don't hold as many grafix!?

What is this sorcery!?

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Jtwo said:
I'm not asking you. I'm posing the question to back up my current stance on the device. I see a lot of people excited here. I mentioned how the device struck me as thoroughly unexciting. Thanks for the offer to "point me to titles" but I have the internet and am aware of what software exists on the Vita.
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Ok, let's try to break this down into two parts.

First, let's look at just the Vita as hardware. What do you feel would have made the difference of the hardware itself being unexciting to exciting? We have here a handheld with a large screen, two analog pads for the first time, traditional buttons, but also now with touch screen, gyro, gps, rear touch panel, front camera, rear camera, and so forth. Pretty much everything you could fathom in one device.

No more PSP where you wish it had a second analog stick or now touch screen cuz of iPhone games. No more iPhone where you wish some games let you have physical buttons. This is the first device that has it all in one. You could play iPhone games on it, you can play PSP games on it, and now you've got games that are going to approach in some ways PS3 games and how they interact with their console counter parts.

So from a purely hardware aspect, what is it lacking or what makes it unexciting? What would make it exciting? I'm not sure what they left out that is feasible.

Second, let's look at the games. Now this is an area that is completely subjective since everyone has different gaming tastes. To me it feels like they're touching on many of the different genres with solid offerings for just the launch. Uncharted is nothing to dismiss IMO. Even if you don't like the series, there's something to be said about the console experience being brought to a handheld. For racing you have Wipeout, fighters you have Mortal Kombat and Marvel vs Capcom. We need not look too far to see all sorts of games getting placed on the platform.

I can't imagine that the system is so devoid of software that you can't find anything interesting. And if you do, what type of games are you looking for? Launches are certainly rough, and like I said everyone has their own unique tastes, but I really think the Vita has a strong launch line up. What it will be like a year from now who knows but right now I think it's got a solid start.

So serious question, what are you looking for, and what would excite you on both of these fronts? I'm just curious what would seriously meet your expectations.
 
Jtwo said:
In my eyes the fact that this thing is in a portable formfactor is completely incidental. I don't see any distinction between this, an Xbox, a PC or whatever. Its just another console. But if I were thinking of it like that, I'd have to say No. The variety of console-quality games "on the go" is not really worth getting excited about. I don't have a PS3. One of the things down the road that I really, really hope happens is Sony opening up the backcatalogue of PS3 exclusive PSN titles like Pixel Junk Eden or Flower. I never really got a chance to play that stuff and would really like to.


Dude. I didn't even care about the 3DS enough to post about it.
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So, what you're describing, to me almost sounds like this:
I don't really care if the game system looks sharp, and is jam packed with the latest controls. I don't really care that i can have that experience everywhere. I don't own the game console this one has a direct relation to, and don't care about that. I also know that most titles aren't exclusive to the system, but I'd love to play the ones that are, from the past, and the future. I'd like that to be the case, even if it means that there will likely be very few titles available in general.

I can see why Nintendo might appeal to you more.
 
PhantomOfTheKnight said:
If the VITA is "just another console" to you, you might as well just quit gaming.
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What? Why would I do that? How does that even make sense for a person to do. I want you to imagine a square. A 5ft by 5ft square. Imagine that. Now imagine if you only ever played videogames inside that 5ft by 5ft square. And NEVER EVER had any reason or desire to play a videogame outside of that 5ft by 5ft square. If that were the case for you, why would it matter the Vita was "portable."


Darklor01 said:
So, what you're describing, to me almost sounds like this:
I don't really care if the game system looks sharp, and is jam packed with the latest controls. I don't really care that i can have that experience everywhere. I don't own the game console this one has a direct relation to, and don't care about that. I also know that most titles aren't exclusive to the system, but I'd love to play the ones that are, from the past, and the future. I'd like that to be the case, even if it means that there will likely be very few titles available in general.

I can see why Nintendo might appeal to you more.
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Pretty much. I guess.

Eh. I still want one. I am gonna take that one guy's advice and go check out the Gamestop demo kiosk at some point.
 
Jtwo said:
What? Why would I do that? How does that even make sense for a person to do. I want you to imagine a square. A 5ft by 5ft square. Imagine that. Now imagine if you only ever played videogames inside that 5ft by 5ft square. And NEVER EVER had any reason or desire to play a videogame outside of that 5ft by 5ft square. If that were the case for you, why would it matter if the Vita was "portable."
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Then I'd play there, plain and simple. Just becuase it's portable system doesn't mean I HAVE to play it on the go; it's just an option.
 
I'm surprised by the lack of anything inside the cases. They should start shipping these with ads for PS Plus in them or something.
 
Jtwo said:
Pretty much. I guess.

Eh. I still want one. I am gonna take that one guy's advice and go check out the Gamestop demo kiosk at some point.
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Well, since I understand your point, I can't really say you're not entitled to your opinion. You want exclusive content on that device, even if it's an exclusive game ported from the console version. You want the thing to be unique from a software perspective in terms of IP, even if the main concepts of the titles aren't entirely new (IE: Oh, look, an FPS.. wow!!)

You just want to have the system running things that can't be run somewhere else. Ok, I can see that. I can also see that it's hard for game companies to make money off of games that are not multi-platform. That's just the nature of the industry now. Gone are the days of the Nintendo Entertainment System.
 
madmaxx350 said:
2) PSPGo came and did it better, you didn't have to buy a memory card...
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That's debatable. Only a fraction of the PSP library was actually avalible for download. So it was really limited; while the Vita will have every game avaliable for download.
 
I also think if I wasn't a huge smartphone enthusiast it would be a lot easier to get jazzed about the hardware itself.
 
Jtwo said:
I also think if I wasn't a huge smartphone enthusiast it would be a lot easier to get jazzed about the hardware itself.
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IMO, it's smartphones that are getting boring in hardware. I think we've reached a point there where all we're getting is a resolution bump, a processor bump, and a camera mega pixel bump. It's so predictable and boring since a lot of things don't even take advantage of them. Vita is by far more bold in its hardware than a smartphone is these days.
 
Jtwo said:
I also think if I wasn't a huge smartphone enthusiast it would be a lot easier to get jazzed about the hardware itself.
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I can see this as something to note, but then again there are no quad-core phones out, and very few with the screen size of the Vita. Not to mention dual sticks and buttons.

Not really comparable to a phone.
 
So to jump back on topic, explain to me this (Amazon Prime):


Delivery estimate: Feb. 22, 2012
1 "PlayStation Vita 3G/Wi-Fi Launch Bundle"

Delivery estimate: Feb. 15, 2012
1 "Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational"

Delivery estimate: Feb. 24, 2012
1 "Touch My Katamari"
 
nicoga3000 said:
So to jump back on topic, explain to me this (Amazon Prime):


Delivery estimate: Feb. 22, 2012
1 "PlayStation Vita 3G/Wi-Fi Launch Bundle"

Delivery estimate: Feb. 15, 2012
1 "Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational"

Delivery estimate: Feb. 24, 2012
1 "Touch My Katamari"
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What do you need explained?
 
nicoga3000 said:
Katamari - why isn't it being delivered on release date like the rest?
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sometimes they will update to an earlier date, sometimes they run out of first shipment stock, etc. I would just watch it for the next week and check and see if you can change the shipping speed to release date delivery
 
i've seen the subject discussed on gaf before, but do any of you actually play your handhelds in public, like on a bus to work or whatever? I've never done it, personally, but that's probably more because I always drove to work and now for the first time i'm commuting by subway and i'll try using my vita during the trip

but idk, i just think i'd feel self conscious, not as much as if it was a DS because that's more stigmatized as a "kid's toy" but still, a little uncomfortable.
 
Not sure if these are known yet - but what are we looking at for the size of games?
Do we know how big the PSVita cards are?

If I get an 8GB card, and the games are 4GB each... that's not going to work so well.
 
Amory Blaine said:
i've seen the subject discussed on gaf before, but do any of you actually play your handhelds in public, like on a bus to work or whatever? I've never done it, personally, but that's probably more because I always drove to work and now for the first time i'm commuting by subway and i'll try using my vita during the trip

but idk, i just think i'd feel self conscious, not as much as if it was a DS because that's more stigmatized as a "kid's toy" but still, a little uncomfortable.
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I live in New York City, so yes, I play my handhelds every day for, at least, two hours on the train (coming and going from work).

However, my Vita will be staying home. Hoodlums love Sony products for some reason; there was a rash of PSP thefts in its heyday. I suspect the same for the Vita.

That said, I play my 3DS all the time, and I've never felt silly... until I got the Circle Pad Pro. That think makes me look like a clown.
 
grendelrt said:
sometimes they will update to an earlier date, sometimes they run out of first shipment stock, etc. I would just watch it for the next week and check and see if you can change the shipping speed to release date delivery
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Alright, cool. I'll keep an eye on it, thanks!

Amory Blaine said:
i've seen the subject discussed on gaf before, but do any of you actually play your handhelds in public, like on a bus to work or whatever? I've never done it, personally, but that's probably more because I always drove to work and now for the first time i'm commuting by subway and i'll try using my vita during the trip

but idk, i just think i'd feel self conscious, not as much as if it was a DS because that's more stigmatized as a "kid's toy" but still, a little uncomfortable.
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I've stopped caring what people think about gaming in public - everyone is playing Angry Birds or Words With Friends or something on their iPhone anymore. When I go visit my fiance in Chicago (I live in Indy), if I don't drive, I fly (for free, woo) and have to take a 90 minute total public transportation adventure to her place. I'm either playing on my iPad or my DS the whole time.
 
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