[Anime] Your "Controversial" Opinions
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I'll use Bleach as an example.
Like that I guess.
It's because the studio's starting point for Bleach's character art isn't the 'generic anime look' at all.
Kubo ::BOW::
*Is still waiting for Bleach to end so he can get on to making clothes.
Seriously. It takes like maybe a handful of minutes or less of googling or GAF-searching to realize that most anime does indeed not look like that.
Crash Station
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I love Bleach (the manga at least) but yes.
Its a visual medium, the art is half or more of the story telling. Im not sure what you get from it as immature though. Its been a while since I read it through so I might be remembering it with rose tinted glasses though. It might be the association between it and BOTI. the latter is one of the few manga that turned "theres all these guys we have to kill, lets go kill them" into an actual engaging story with a rediculous amount of grey area.
You don't need realistic art for maturity, lol.
Citing anime adapted mainstream shounen for anime art style is self incriminating.
ANIME HAIR IS RIGHT IN THAT CAPTURE
Crash Station
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Code:Breaker has grey characters and I wouldn't call it mature at all. It's about execution more than themes and Vagabond does it just like any other series that tries to get you to sympathize with a mass murderer (in other words, not that well).
God damn it, fucking thank you.
I've met a lot of people that prefer the original FMA anime to either Brotherhood or the manga. I think it's one of the few examples of an anime going past the manga story-wise, and not completely collapsing on itself (ala Hellsing, Rurouni Kenshin, etc).
Mortrialus
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You can be a dick, but you need to explain what your objection is. pizzaroll and I apparently agree on nothing, so our conflicting posts aren't unusual.
Oh, the puni plush style. Yeah moe is polarizing to say the least.
So anime hair is any shaggy hair or what? lol
Key art is not representative of anime.
Crash Station
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How is that anime hair? That's the kind of stuff you see in real life.
I...yeah no I'm really not trying to be a dick here. I don't know how else to explain it.
I'll just agree to disagree with you guys what typical anime hair and eyes look like.
Mortrialus
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It's because the studio's starting point for Bleach's character art isn't the 'generic anime look' at all.
Kubo ::BOW::
*Is still waiting for Bleach to end so he can get on to making clothes.
That is definitely not "neutral." Just from the cover, it has a harder bite to it, at least in comparison to that screen cap.
It pretty much is in this day and age. I mean granted, the general style has mutated away from it, especially the shape of the eyes, but that stuff is the foundation for the current "moe" style.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
While gobs of anime is pretty ugly it is not Key Ugly. Key art is an unfortunate extreme.
Vulcano's assistant
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WHY DOES IT ALL LOOK THE SAME?
Because of they way the use colors and shading, plus the easiest and most effective way to draw hair is with solid colors and geometrical shapes.
Oh, I meant it as an example of where the studio starts from. Now all you have to do is factor in the usual design deterioration that comes with a long-running shonen adaption and you have the previous screencap!
Isn't the entire point of musashi's life that he repents and becomes a buddhist monk? Its a fictionalization of his life, but the point stays. Maybe I just feel more sympathy for murderers than you.
Its their right to be wrong I guess. The ending sucked, but so did the original animes. The creation of the homunculus' / hoenheims power was a lot more interesting, and the entire idea of amestris' creation. The anime will always be inferior to me anyway, I can't stand watching most modern animation because of the low quality and the shortcuts they use.
Mortrialus
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As I edited in my post, nothing aside from Key stuff looks exactly like Key stuff. I mean that generic cutesy Puni Plush thing is everywhere.
Honestly, Key bugs me even among moe art styles. Its the eyes. They always look like they' drawn wrong. Not sure what they're going for there.
Also, I don't think Key is the foundation for the look most modern shows have. Not sure why I said that.
No. Everything about the original series's homunculi was more interesting than the Brotherhood/manga version of them. They were also more effective villains as well. All but two, maybe three of the Brotherhood homunculi were fucking joke villains.
Modern [anime] animation is not any different in quality than any other era. If anything, the highs are much higher now. Dennou Coil is the most well animated TV anime ever made, for instance.
I'm going manga here. But I just wanted to show that geometric and heavy lined hair can look damn good as well.
ANIME HAIR
Your counter is stuck.
Mortrialus
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Yeah what does that even mean?
I do like the way that person(That a guy or a girl? I don't know)'s hair is drawn.
Oh? Ill have to look that up then. In any case, weekly multi season animes tend to have shitty animations because of budget concerns. The use of CG as a crutch is atrocious, not to mention the amount of repeated actions and and lazy coreography to make fight scenes easier to do (while divorcing them from any sense of actual impact, completely removing the entire point of combat).
Yes, I did. Finished it about an hour ago. :>
I'm purchasing Sky Crawlers now (as in, right now) to give it a second chance. Oh god what's going on
Yes indeed.
Did you rike it?
It's a pretty interesting take on the whole faith & lack of faith thing, as Lafiel put it. I'm trying to figure out exactly what the
shadow fish
Just took the plunge. Only $15!
edit: woah, in the "other stuff viewed related items page" on Amazon after buying Sky Crawlers BD, there is a book related to something not related to Oshii at all from a thing I was looking into earlier. The cover is a basset hound. Weird!!
Femmeworth
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I don't hate Ikuhara. He makes some good OPs.
As a director/writer... well I can't just judge him soley based off of what I saw of Utena, and I haven't watched his seasons of Sailor Moon in years. Once Penguindrum is fully available on Blu-ray, I'll give that a shot. Being only 26 episodes and not in the 90s, it shouldn't be a bloated mess at least.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
this i greatly agree with. say what you want about his series, but the man can fucking design hot outfits.
Vulcano's assistant
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Utena isn't really a bloated mess, of what I've seen. I think you are letting your personal distaste for repetition & reused animation get in the way of the facts.I don't hate Ikuhara. He makes some good OPs.
I got something similar from that, but it could be anything!
Also another example of Flying Giant Fish in an Oshii work. Chart needs updating.
DragonBall/DBZ/DBGT are one of the worst anime ever created by humans, and dogs.
Dragonball series was my favorite anime when I was a kid. I remember I used to run from school to my home so I could catch all the episodes on Toonami. I actually saw all the episodes in all three series, including the movies. Recently I decided to watch it again, and my god, it's so horrible. The plot is non-existent, the animation is horrible (granted, it's an old anime, but there are a few animes from that time that look much better), the script is embarrassing and the fights are meaningless. We have them screaming for 5 episodes, 5 minutes lasting 20 episodes, same pattern repeats on all sagas. The only reason I actually tolerate this anime anymore is for nostalgic reasons, other than that Toriyama should hide in a cave and never come out again. The only good thing Toriyama has done is make other mangakas go into the manga business (Tite Kubo [Bleach], Masashi Kishimoto [Naruto], Eichiro Oda [One Piece], etc)
Dragonball series was my favorite anime when I was a kid. I remember I used to run from school to my home so I could catch all the episodes on Toonami. I actually saw all the episodes in all three series, including the movies. Recently I decided to watch it again, and my god, it's so horrible. The plot is non-existent, the animation is horrible (granted, it's an old anime, but there are a few animes from that time that look much better), the script is embarrassing and the fights are meaningless. We have them screaming for 5 episodes, 5 minutes lasting 20 episodes, same pattern repeats on all sagas. The only reason I actually tolerate this anime anymore is for nostalgic reasons, other than that Toriyama should hide in a cave and never come out again. The only good thing Toriyama has done is make other mangakas go into the manga business (Tite Kubo [Bleach], Masashi Kishimoto [Naruto], Eichiro Oda [One Piece], etc)
gatotsu911
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This is all true, I guess mainly I'm uncool with her hatin' on Eva and fangirl worship for Baccano, Monster and Christopher Nolan, all of which I consider to be essential components in a noxious loldeep diet.
He also did the character designs for Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger. Therefore, no.
But I won't argue against your DBZ criticism. There are glaring issues with that series. You should stick with choice movies if you want to get the nostalgia plus some quality. Bojack Unbound for example.
Femmeworth
Banned
I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the show's pacing in general. Also I was referring to Sailor Moon as well.
Touché, I've forgotten about that. Fine, Toriyama can stay in the light, I'm just glad he finished DB once and for all. Once my favorite anime, now I've opened my eyes, it was all just a testosterone drive and nothing else, or so I believe.
I haven't bought an anime since robotek when I was like 12. I think my distinction in terms of animation quality has more to do with things looking natural. The kind of coloring you see in the stuff like robotek just looks better to me, rather than the clearly computer coloured shit like geass where everything is very very clean, like its been painted with a fill in tool.
That reminds me of the scientific consensus on noah's ark that states that if a global flood were to actually happen as described in noah's ark, fish would be extinct / wouldn't survive such a catastrophe.. maybe that ties into the whole noah's ark and lack of faith allusion.
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