Double Fine Adventure Kickstarter project by Double Fine [ended, $3.3 Million funded]

Ravidrath said:
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Scumbag activist game developer:
- wants to treat people of all colours with respect
- complains about white people

PS. it looks and sounds shit, no wonder they only have $5k
 
Natiko said:
I really don't think you want to go down the 'majority opinion=fact' road. Also, I specifically said that I would have preferred to see something different. Unlike some people in this thread, I have the ability to hold my own opinion without trying to beat down other's for theirs.
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You keep saying, "I would have preferred to see something different." What does that even mean? You would have preferred to see them not reach their goal? Because that's really the only other preference there could be.

Hell, I would have preferred that the million dollars went to me, but that's neither here nor there, and not really worthy of bringing up in this thread.
 
morningbus said:
For the benefit of everyone else, in a sentence or two, just calmly and cleanly explain what your point was.

Or do you not even have a point anymore?
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I'm glad that Double Fine's experiment paid off and that they were able to reach their goal. I personally would like to see this kind of coming together over social and health issues, but that is simply my own opinion.

That clear enough?
 
Ventron said:
Scumbag activist game developer:
- wants to treat people of all colours with respect
- complains about white people

PS. it looks and sounds shit, no wonder they only have $5k
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I'm trying to find how to comment on this Tumblr thing.

I love how they piss on their own audience in order to make fun of DF.
 
element said:
I kinda have to disagree. If Tim REALLY wanted to do an adventure game, he easily could have gotten $400k from a publisher to make one. He would be talking with Focus Home Interactive, or someone along those lines. That really isn't a lot of risk at $400k.

Your comparing it as if Tim is going to publishers with a 50 man team and a $10m budget and tell them he plans on doing an adventure game. Of course, he would never get support for that.
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This game was pitched to publishers, and no one bit.

I'm sure the budget for that version was higher than $400k, but he did try to get it funded by "normal means."
 
element said:
I kinda have to disagree. If Tim REALLY wanted to do an adventure game, he easily could have gotten $400k from a publisher to make one. He would be talking with Focus Home Interactive, or someone along those lines. That really isn't a lot of risk at $400k.
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There's a lot of subtlety to game deals this statement misses. In that scenario, they may not own the final product, they have to give up a large chunk of the profits, and they are not completely free to make the game they want (and that's not the only downsides, just a few). They way they chose to go about it fixes all the problems of niche publishing. They own the game, they choose the direction, and they retain the profits to pay forward to the next project.
 
Natiko said:
I really don't think you want to go down the 'majority opinion=fact' road. Also, I specifically said that I would have preferred to see something different. Unlike some people in this thread, I have the ability to hold my own opinion without trying to beat down other's for theirs.
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Natiko said:
I'm glad that Double Fine's experiment paid off and that they were able to reach their goal. I personally would like to see this kind of coming together over social and health issues, but that is simply my own opinion.

That clear enough?
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You're being incredibly disingenuous here. Your original statement was not that benign. You called Double Fine's games "mediocre" and the developer "middling." In a thread filled with their fans. It's fine to have that opinion, but flexing that opinion here only serves one end: to incite.

I see you post in the hip-hop thread. It's like me going in there and saying "hip-hop sucks." It's worthless and meant only to troll the people in that thread.
 
inky said:
Yeah, right after you sarcastically noted: "A million dollars? That's wonderful! I can't wait until they release it and it's mediocre just like *insert any game Double Fine's ever made*!"

Sorry if I don't believe you were being honest the second time around. And I don't think you are a bad person, just misguided. These kinds of "that money could've gone to charity or something better" comments always appear when people gather up and do something cool like this.



Except for the part where you did and went on about how there are more worthy causes in the world to give money to as I'm sure you do.



The good 'ol hivemind post. LOL. You done?
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I never once said that people shouldn't have donated money to Double Fine. If you want to keep claiming I did please show me where I stated that Double Fine should not have reached their goal or been given any money.

Zefah said:
I didn't say, nor imply that.

All I said is that that lots of crazies who have awful opinions tend to go into victim mode and start grouping everyone else into one big bunch of "aggressors" and use words like "hivemind" to dehumanize them.
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I could have listed all of your usernames if that'd make you feel better.

Mifune said:
You keep saying, "I would have preferred to see something different." What does that even mean? You would have preferred to see them not reach their goal? Because that's really the only other preference there could be.

Hell, I would have preferred that the million dollars went to me, but that's neither here nor there, and not really worthy of bringing up in this thread.
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Again, I never said I didn't want them to reach their goal. In fact I've said the opposite multiple times. In one day Double Fine raised a nearly a third of the money that Child's Play raised in the entirety of 2011. You don't see people rally around that kind of stuff nearly as often or to such a degree. I never said that means Double Fine should have received zero dollars.
 
Ventron said:
Scumbag activist game developer:
- wants to treat people of all colours with respect
- complains about white people

PS. it looks and sounds shit, no wonder they only have $5k
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I don't think it was written by the developer, as far as I have seen.
 
Natiko said:
I'm glad that Double Fine's experiment paid off and that they were able to reach their goal. I personally would like to see this kind of coming together over social and health issues, but that is simply my own opinion.

That clear enough?
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Come on... you started your escapade in here with a sarcastic remark against Double Fine. You have an agenda and now you're trying to cover it up and look like a decent person or something.

Do you always pipe in with your opinion whenever money is spent in a way in which you don't agree? Like at lunch, do you go, "Hey man, I'm sure you enjoyed that steak, but I personally would have preferred if you went with something a little cheaper and spent the difference on feeding starving kids in Africa."?

Have you ever spent your own money on a luxury product? Why didn't you spend it on social/health-related issues for the 'greater good' instead?
 
element said:
I kinda have to disagree. If Tim REALLY wanted to do an adventure game, he easily could have gotten $400k from a publisher to make one. He would be talking with Focus Home Interactive, or someone along those lines. That really isn't a lot of risk at $400k.

Your comparing it as if Tim is going to publishers with a 50 man team and a $10m budget and tell them he plans on doing an adventure game. Of course, he would never get support for that.
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You realize that even if he would've gotten the 400k from a publisher, he would have a _much_ worse deal at his hands than he does with Kickstarter, right?

With Kickstarter they have absolutely no risk and don't have to pay any royalties and even if the thing doesn't come together properly there's still a nice documentation about how DoubleFine is doing it. That alone probably would've been worth the 15 bucks for a lot of the people who pledged.
 
Ravidrath said:
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I don't even know this is about and I'm looking at the Arkh Project website.

If they wanted money offer better rewards, the first 3 tiers gets you posters, only at $250 you get access to the beta!, Doublefine is giving access to the game at $15.

Also 2 other points, that Indiegogo page has too much writing and confusion on it, Double Fine had a nice video and was clear and concise on what they wanted and what their goals where.
 
Ventron said:
Scumbag activist game developer:
- wants to treat people of all colours with respect
- complains about white people

PS. it looks and sounds shit, no wonder they only have $5k
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??? Double Fine's game looks like, uh.......... Well... They don't even have assets to compare, so that argument is flimsy.

Regardless of this other developer's crass statements (surely they were in jest?), they don't have the name recognition. That means worlds in terms of funding. What was their last project? How successful was it? Would I recognize a game they'd released? What about the word of mouth? What's the experience of the crew members behind the game? How many copies sold per crew member? etc etc.

You gotta back up your bullshit. That's what matters.
 
Natiko said:
Again, I never said I didn't want them to reach their goal. In fact I've said the opposite multiple times. In one day Double Fine raised a nearly a third of the money that Child's Play raised in the entirety of 2011. You don't see people rally around that kind of stuff nearly as often or to such a degree. I never said that means Double Fine should have received zero dollars.
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Okay I gotcha.

That's like when I texted all my Giants fan friends after the Superbowl something like: don't get too happy. there are still starving children in Africa.
 
Zefah said:
Come on... you started your escapade in here with a sarcastic remark against Double Fine. You have an agenda and now you're trying to cover it up and look like a decent person or something.

Do you always pipe in with your opinion whenever money is spent in a way in which you don't agree? Like at lunch, do you go, "Hey man, I'm sure you enjoyed that steak, but I personally would have preferred if you went with something a little cheaper and spent the difference on feeding starving kids in Africa."?

Have you ever spent your own money on a luxury product? Why didn't you spend it on social/health-related issues for the 'greater good' instead?
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Again, when did I ever say people shouldn't spend their money how they want or support Double Fine? I said that I would have preferred to see it used differently. As in, my own opinion of the matter. ITT people turn my opinion into an overbearing need to tell everyone how to spend their money.

I'm done. I'll do a final summary. I don't think Double Fine is the greatest developer, but I'm glad they reached their goal. I'm happy to see games get made. I also feel like it would be nice to see people rally around other causes to such a degree. That simple.
 
FoneBone said:
Sorry to derail the thread, but did the devs of this project make it? Or just an idiot fan?
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Whoever made it is an idiot.

I go to that site and I have absolutely no idea what the hell I'm looking at and apart from some meh concepts there's absolutely nothing going on there.

Compare that to Tim Schafer who has been an industry figure for 20+ years? Yeah, I'd totally give my money tot he noob who markets his game by saying they're colored and queer. So what? So are millions of other people. That doesn't mean that you can ship a product that people will enjoy.
 
The problem with that Arkh game is that it sounds like some sort of bad fan fiction :\
All I see are characters design that are each other's wives, husbands and such. I have no idea what this is even going to be!
 
Natiko said:
I'm done. I'll do a final summary. I don't think Double Fine is the greatest developer, but I'm glad they reached their goal. I'm happy to see games get made. I also feel like it would be nice to see people rally around other causes to such a degree. That simple.
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They're not the greatest developer (in my mind Origin Systems is - curse you EA) but they do make games I like to play. And that's enough for me to give them my support.
 
Surely this benefits all indie devs who have been using Kickstarter though. A hell of a lot of gamers found out about this site today and it will continue to receive a lot of publicity thanks to Double Fine. I would imagine the amount of funding going to gaming projects on there is going to increase a lot over the next few months, particularly if it starts getting used by other well known industry people.
 
This whole story makes me feel really happy. I don't know what publishers can take away from an experiment like this, since it obviously is not a copy and paste thing that every bedroom developer with a great idea/no budget can count on, but I hope it's the start of something.

This industry has become so risk averse and so fixated on maximizing profits, having an alternate path to fund dream projects that will "never sell" and still offers the creators total control sounds incredibly appealing for all parties involved. The fans that love your work are really the ones you want to be doing business with in the end, after all.
 
Instro said:
Surely this benefits all indie devs who have been using Kickstarter though. A hell of a lot of gamers found out about this site today and it will continue to receive a lot of publicity thanks to Double Fine. I would imagine the amount of funding going to gaming projects on there is going to increase a lot over the next few months, particularly if it starts getting used by other well known industry people.
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That would be wonderful, I hope you're right.
 
Natiko said:
Again, when did I ever say people shouldn't spend their money how they want or support Double Fine? I said that I would have preferred to see it used differently. As in, my own opinion of the matter. ITT people turn my opinion into an overbearing need to tell everyone how to spend their money.

I'm done. I'll do a final summary. I don't think Double Fine is the greatest developer, but I'm glad they reached their goal. I'm happy to see games get made. I also feel like it would be nice to see people rally around other causes to such a degree. That simple.
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Read the post of mine that you quoted--I didn't say you directly told anyone not to spend their money. I worded my question just as you have been wording your supposed opinion: "I would have preferred."

The thing is, you went out of your way to voice your opinion in a thread that has nothing to do with it. The way you did this leads me to believe that you think any and all money ever spent should always go toward social/health issues, or to more unfortunate people. How exactly does that work?

Do you understand what's going on in this thread? People are funding this project because they want the game. As long as they pay $15, they will receive a copy of the end product. Please tell me how this is any different from one of those "pay what you want" things, or even pre-ordering a game well in advance?

I can point out plenty of good differences that should help us end up with a better game in the end, but what about this action makes you want to come in shout about social indifference when it has nothing to do with what's going on? I'm just not seeing the connection.
 
Yasae said:
??? Double Fine's game looks like, uh.......... Well... They don't even have assets to compare, so that argument is flimsy.

Regardless of this other developer's crass statements (surely they were in jest?), they don't have the name recognition. That means worlds in terms of funding. What was their last project? How successful was it? Would I recognize a game they'd released? What about the word of mouth? What's the experience of the crew members behind the game? How many copies sold per crew member? etc etc.

You gotta back up your bullshit. That's what matters.
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The difference is that the Arkh project looks hilariously ambitious to the point where it is born to fail. There is no way that game is ever going to come out. This DoubleFine game is almost a sure shot that it will come out unless Tim pockets the money and flys to China.
 
LordPanda said:
They're not the greatest developer (in my mind Origin Systems is - curse you EA) but they do make games I like to play. And that's enough for me to give them my support.
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Yeah, but why [do you] care more about playing a game of unknown quality or length than [you do about] supporting people around the world that face serious issues every day of their lives?

Think of all that money you could've given to charity but instead gave away to a middling developer for a mediocre game? That's the real issue here apparently.
 
Natiko said:
Again, when did I ever say people shouldn't spend their money how they want or support Double Fine? I said that I would have preferred to see it used differently. As in, my own opinion of the matter. ITT people turn my opinion into an overbearing need to tell everyone how to spend their money.

I'm done. I'll do a final summary. I don't think Double Fine is the greatest developer, but I'm glad they reached their goal. I'm happy to see games get made. I also feel like it would be nice to see people rally around other causes to such a degree. That simple.
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The amount of money donated to worthy causes is so many times beyond what's been invested (not donated) here it's not even worth mentioning. Though TBH, I do understand your incredulence towards the general public and its priorities. We don't have our shit straight and everybody knows. This is a gaming forum at the end of the day, however.
 
I'm all for fewer games made by old white guys, and I'm even a person in the age demographic that remembers the classic LucasArts adventures. The only thing I've been amused by from Tim Schafer recently is his GDC award show hosting.

But I'm not part of the fanboy hivemind that wants to relive old glories, so I didn't give DoubleFine a cent. Sorry guys, you can burn me in effigy. :P
 
That Arkh game looks pretty interesting too. They'd need a bigger budget to match that great 2D art though.
 
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