Why do I keep getting spoiled on what kind of puzzles I will work on in the future? However, I just started the Pikmin one yesterday
Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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JohnTinker
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hnnnnggghh
What if Pikmin 3 had a claymation art & animation style?
What if Pikmin 3 had a claymation art & animation style?
IrishNinja
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aw, my bad if i spoiled one of em there. i thought it was pretty common but you never know, ive yet to see this pikmin one obviously!
Only for the characters please! The woods/gardens should look as realistic as possible.
I did.
Too bad this won't happen. The logo must be big and easily noticeable, and it's actually a good thing (helps customers pick up the right version).
radioheadrule83
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The Kirby one is one of the best looking ones when it's completed. Really nice colours / animation, things going on in the background etc.
I also apologise if the Pikmin screen I posted was a puzzle swap spoiler for anyone.
DefectiveReject
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but why are your reflections B&W?
Also not the biggest fan to be honest. the console name doesn't stand out and needs to in a store competing with other consoles.
Eh, why not... (didn't actually mean to do that
Used the same template for the first one for the second, so the mistake carried through...)And yeah, I can see some people's problems with the lack of an obvious logo, and indeed it could work against Nintendo's favour, but I think it's a refreshing take on box art - a cleaner, minimal design, that has a focus solely on the game and thus gives a better impression on what it's about. Box colours could help express this.
These are mock-ups. These could look great to gaming fans who want simply and clean packshots. These aren't made with the motivation of creating packshots which could interest the average consumer.
Gianni Merryman
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http://i.imgur.com/l3Je8.jpg
Only thing, I want that cat to feature as a end-level boss.
Edit: Actually I meant to quote Ubermatik's mock-up http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35094614&postcount=7021
Only thing, I want that cat to feature as a end-level boss.
Edit: Actually I meant to quote Ubermatik's mock-up http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35094614&postcount=7021
You tease!Believe, GAF.
fabricated backlash
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Eh, why not... (didn't actually mean to do that
And yeah, I can see some people's problems with the lack of an obvious logo, and indeed it could work against Nintendo's favour, but I think it's a refreshing take on box art - a cleaner, minimal design, that has a focus solely on the game and thus gives a better impression on what it's about. Box colours could help express this.
The biggest problem with comercial design is that it has to fulfill it's purpose first, and only then can you start with trying different design stuff.
And while I like your design in theory, it simply wouldn't work as a normal retail box. Now for a special edition, these rules don't really apply, as the function is secondary to the design.
This would be amazing. Claymation stop motion figures, in a photo realistic garden environment... That would get my money.
It's alright
I think it's just because I rarely get streetpasses (24) and only started bringing my 3DS to campus this year, so I'm quite slow doing the puzzles.Box colors:
Maybe the main color will be the blue from the "U" of Wii U logo. It's a pretty different blue from the playstations boxes so I can see it happen, and Nintendo may need something much stronger than what they did with the 3DS boxes.
Black for 18+ games will likely be still there.
Even if the idea is nice, a special color just for Pikmin is out of question. A special color for a launch(window) game may slow down the production of boxes (this caa be a real problem right?).
Maybe the main color will be the blue from the "U" of Wii U logo. It's a pretty different blue from the playstations boxes so I can see it happen, and Nintendo may need something much stronger than what they did with the 3DS boxes.
Black for 18+ games will likely be still there.
Even if the idea is nice, a special color just for Pikmin is out of question. A special color for a launch(window) game may slow down the production of boxes (this caa be a real problem right?).
The curse is lifted! I return from exile.
Watching this board during my ban was excruciating. It's like a whole swarm of juniors just came pouring out of the woodwork. Not that that juniors are inherently poor posters, I was a junior not too long ago myself, but there does seem to be a huge influx out of nowhere.
Over the last two weeks, I've come to two conclusions. First is that people on gaf tend to passionately believe that their personal tastes and preferences regarding their gaming hobby is truly indicative of the whims of the industry as a whole. This is in spite of the upswing of mobile gaming, kinect, the wii, and casual gaming at large. The second is that most people will also tend to believe whatever the hell they want to believe, going so far as clinging to whatever baseless scraps and offhand comments they can in order to continue holding fast to their gaming worldview. Some even selectively misconstrue existing info to argue on behalf of a specific company while being completely oblivious to what they're doing. And I'm not saying this in order to imply this thread is some bastion of reason and logic either.
But getting back on topic, what is the bare minimum it would take for you guys and gals to be there on day 1 for the Wii U? What are your potential deal breakers? Is there anything that has to be there in order to convince you to pick it up this year?
Watching this board during my ban was excruciating. It's like a whole swarm of juniors just came pouring out of the woodwork. Not that that juniors are inherently poor posters, I was a junior not too long ago myself, but there does seem to be a huge influx out of nowhere.
Over the last two weeks, I've come to two conclusions. First is that people on gaf tend to passionately believe that their personal tastes and preferences regarding their gaming hobby is truly indicative of the whims of the industry as a whole. This is in spite of the upswing of mobile gaming, kinect, the wii, and casual gaming at large. The second is that most people will also tend to believe whatever the hell they want to believe, going so far as clinging to whatever baseless scraps and offhand comments they can in order to continue holding fast to their gaming worldview. Some even selectively misconstrue existing info to argue on behalf of a specific company while being completely oblivious to what they're doing. And I'm not saying this in order to imply this thread is some bastion of reason and logic either.
But getting back on topic, what is the bare minimum it would take for you guys and gals to be there on day 1 for the Wii U? What are your potential deal breakers? Is there anything that has to be there in order to convince you to pick it up this year?
Bare minimum for my day 1 purchase: Just show the system at E3 with a first party game that is not a NSMB.
Deal breaker: no good games at launch, $400+, paying for online multiplayer.
Probably 95% chance I'll get this at launch, unless my money saved up for it somehow dissipates.
That the controller works as advertised.
Im already sold by it.
Nintendo's record in providing compelling games is a foregone conclusion.
Seeing their franchises updated to HD is simply a major plus.
There are already some third party games that I look forward to playing, so if that trend continues there should be a wide variety of games for the system to choose from over its lifetime.
The system will be powerful enough. It just has to be affordable.
What'd be cool is if certain games came with exclusive Mii hats, unlocked by in-game achievements or something. It works for TF2 and it keeps me grinding away at Find Mii.
Otherwise I can wait a few months. If I have to wait outside overnight in shitty weather I may just skip it too.
Yeah, love it. Please be true.
Price, and a first-party launch title. If it's over $350 I'll wait. I know whatever they've got cooking will eventually lull me into the machine but I'd like something to play day one. I could definitely live with some pre-installed mini-games provided that they're multi-player.
Otherwise I can wait a few months. If I have to wait outside overnight in shitty weather I may just skip it too.
I'll just ignore that junior talk and try to add something to the conversation instead.
I bought 3DS despite a weak launch line-up. But I got rewarded with games like MK7, SM3DL, RE:R and so on. The thing with Nintendo hardware is that I see it as some kind investment for the future. When they release the first HD Zelda or Mario game, I would get the system anyway when I haven't bought it before. I could never skip a Nintendo console, honestly.
I bought a PS3 shortly after my Wii to have an HD console and later the 360. Both HD twins offer incredible software and are great consoles in my eyes. But Nintendo is always on another level when it comes to the overall package.
I just want a working HD console with good online features and one or two good launch games which keep me busy until Nintendo releases their juggernauts.
fabricated backlash
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Minimum for day 1: A solid launch line up with at least one great 3rd party game, and a good 1st party franchise.
Deal Breakers: EA doing the online infrastructure. If EA is in any way involved in the online shop or matchmaking or anything then I won't take this console online. Period. If they have Origin for EA titles as a part of the new online interface with dedicated storefronts for each DD plattform then at least I can ignore them completely just to never have to deal with one of their shoddy products.
What has to be there: A constant stream of releases for the first 6 months with good to great games that use the hardware and the UI.
invaderzim69
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Welcome back. For me, its just the games. How Mario, Zelda, and Samus will look on the Wii U is good, but I'm hoping the 3rd party support will be better. I want to play the same type of games that Sony and Microsoft had. As long as the Wii U has a strong lineup, I'm there. As long as the price is right, it makes it easier too.
Welcome back Guek! It's like you've had en epiphany in your absence...
And the one thing I need is a decent first party title at launch - I learnt the hard way with the 3DS and won't pick up the Wii U unless it has something like Pikmin 3 day one. A slew of 3rd party titles is also necessary to keep me going, notably a good FPS.
Otherwise, I'm just hoping their online services are up to scratch... because I'm becoming increasingly concerned about multiplayer gaming.
A potential deal breaker for me would be a poor launch line-up and a high price - both of which would add insult to injury if they kept the friend code system...
Cerebral Assassin
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It will come down to price, I already know I will get Batman:AC if I buy it on launch, although if GTA V is announced for Wii U before launch then fuck the price I may even hit up a midnight launch.
As long as it's HD and it plays Nintendo games (and as long as there are games I want to play at launch and beyond), I will be there, Day 1. Even if it's 360 v1.4 as far as specs go. And I don't give the slightest damn about online "features;" the obsession with online and the idea that many developers use it as a crutch when justifying a gimped single-player mode is downright annoying.
I just despise paying for online multiplayer because it really alienates people like me who would rather use that $40-60 subscription to buy another game. I understand how many devs get lazy with online, but imagine having to pay for online Smash. This is the reason why I vowed not to buy another Microsoft console, because I couldn't play online for free.
Agreed. I don't even like the temptation being there for developers. And that includes Nintendo, as much as I might adore 'em.
Online for Smash would set me into rage mode. I can feel my blood pressure going up thinking about it.
Welcome back!
Nintendo moving into HD is exciting and the Subscreen (Miyamoto's word, not mine) really has me buzzed for the system to no end. So really the only deal breaker for me would be an insane price like US$500. As far as games go I'd likely buy it if all that it has at launch was some tech demos. Of course if nothing else came out for it or Nintendo failed with their online I'd get mighty pissed off but as it stands with what we've seen of it, know about potential specs and games, online etc, I'm ready to plunge day 1.
There was no truth to that.
"Vaseline Engine 3"
Speaking of Vaseline Engine 3, did you know that Samaritan was running in UE3? (a newer version). Whatever they end up calling UE4 will probably be heavily based upon what they built with UE3 because, well... architecture has not drastically changed and will not drastically change for awhile.
Not really, I'm going to buy the Wii U yes or yes
there's no other option, I can't live without a Nintendo console
but I'm not gonna pick it up at launch. I'll wait till Black Friday or Christmas
to take advantage of their respective sweet deals, discounts and months no interests.
I'll be buying games the day they're available tho
Kid Icarus will probably be a good indication of what Smash online is going to have at the bare minimum.
I wouldn't call it an epiphany, I've just lowered my expectations for certain types of discussions on this board.
For me, I think it's more or less a foregone conclusion that I'll be there day 1 for the wii u. The concept definitely has me sold, and it's the sole potential source I see on the horizon for truly new gaming experiences. The wii + PC combo served me very very well this gen, and with my free time dwindling more and more, I can't see how I could possibly make multiple consoles worthwhile.
For me, price is not much of an issue, but I would be greatly deterred from picking one up if there were no great games on the horizon. I can deal with shoddy launch lineups; it's the projected titles within the 1st year that'll really grab me. But that's not much of a concern since I'm already very interested in titles that have already been announced. Ninja Gaiden 3, Darksiders II, and Aliens are all guaranteed purchases for me. Pikmin 3 too, if we ever end up getting it
That... that's actually not that long...
And GDC is when again? (For the millionth time)
Grampa Simpson
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A huge portion of GAF suffers for deep cognitive bias. Usually stemming from childhood associations with videogames and videogame manufacturers. Some of us are getting better as we become introspective about our feeling on the situation. But some are the "Westboro Baptist Church" of videogaming.
If they announced that there would be no Mario, no Metroid, and No Zelda games for the system - EVER, I would probably not pick up at launch. As things are, I'll pick up the system sheerly on anticipation of these titles and hopefully this will be a significant mid-generation upgrade that I'll be able to pick up all my multiplats on it and have the best experience.
Later if the new generation with the PS4 and 720 starts excluding WiiU from multiplats, I would probably pick up a 720.
I can't see myself ever buying a Sony console or handheld again, unless we ended up with a generation like the PS2 generation where support was so heavily skewed in their favor that the games that I wanted to play were only available on their console.
This is my person preference. I probably have some cognitive bias about it left, but I think I've gotten to the point where I'm differentiating between the two.
EDIT: An outrageous price might make me wait, but I'm affluent enough that it won't be a problem unless it breaks the $400 barrier.
ClovingWestbrook
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I havent day one'd a Nintendo home console since the N64 and while I'm not expecting to with the Wii U its the most interested I've been to do so since since the N64. What I need to be a day 1 or thereabout buyer:
1. A new 2D single player Super Mario that is deeper than NSMB Wii. Good launch lineup.
2. A much improved online system. SMK7 like communities for all games. Account based system where your E-store purchases are linked.
3. UE4 capable. Major third parties on board with major AAA games announced and dated.
4. If its $299 or less I won't buy because it conveys that tech wise its nothing to write home about.
5. What apps are shown at E3. What type of connectivity with the 3DS.
Based on Nintendo's response to those five points will determine when I will pick up the Wii U.
R
Rösti
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There, I've just sent an inquiry regarding the Wii U trademark and attached suspension letter to Jerald E. Nagae of Christensen O’Connor Johnson Kindness. He handles IP litigation for Nintendo. Well, at least I think I've sent the inquiry, my e-mail client behaved weird, but the message appears in the list of sent objects. Hopefully I get a reply later this week.
JaseMath
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This is such a narrow-minded measurement of value. What if it's <$299 but runs UE4 without a problem?
-Pyromaniac-
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If it's 299 or less I'd yell and scream and flow tears of happiness.
...and there would go any hopes of it being more powerful than the Xbox 360.
-Pyromaniac-
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honestly, I'd pay 299 or less and be happy thinking of it as a nintendo HD box and nothing more lol. Especially if it's LESS than 299. Realistically though I'm still expecting 349.99, 299 is a pipe dream and would be sold at a big loss I would imagine.
JoshuaJSlone
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If it's below $300, I'm willing to sell it to people like ClovingSteam for a better, higher price.
ClovingWestbrook
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Oh, I'm sure it can run UE4 without 'problems' the question is if it'd be able to run nextBox/PS4 ports without having to sacrifice significant features and visual quality. Again, $299 is the same price as the Vita Wifi/3G and only $50 more than the Wii was. That is problematic.
I hope the system is $380 or less, but I'll still bite if it's more -- assuming the games are compelling.
I really don't care about how third party support turns out. I have a PC. I will however most likely buy the Wii U version of any multiplatform titles that do happen to land on the console. I also don't care about the online system since I'm largely a single player gamer. The only way I can see myself not buying Wii U is if Nintendo somehow fumbles their big games. I'll be particularly disappointed if Pikmin 3 fails to impress.
I really don't care about how third party support turns out. I have a PC. I will however most likely buy the Wii U version of any multiplatform titles that do happen to land on the console. I also don't care about the online system since I'm largely a single player gamer. The only way I can see myself not buying Wii U is if Nintendo somehow fumbles their big games. I'll be particularly disappointed if Pikmin 3 fails to impress.
Oh yeah! I totally forgot about Miyamoto's term for the screen. I think I'm going to start using it now.
More like 99% of people in general.
-Pyromaniac-
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There isn't a chance in hell I bite at above 349.99 unless the launch has at least 2 legitimately great games, at least 1 being from Nintendo is a must. And not only that, the immediate launch window has to look very good. That's a lot of money to spend these days for 1 game, and then not play anything else for a few months. Even at 349.99 on the dot I wouldn't bite without those conditions met.
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