Do you base this on the japanese sales? I'd be interested in knowing how you know it hasn't sold very well when the system hasn't even launched in other territories.
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Do you base this on the japanese sales? I'd be interested in knowing how you know it hasn't sold very well when the system hasn't even launched in other territories.
RomanticHeroX
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Had to go directly to the twitchtv site and disable adblock to get anything.
TangoAlphaLima
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It's not a mathematics thing. Sure, if we were talking pure numbers, 7 out of 10 is good. The problem is that game reviews don't work on the same basis. Generally, if a game doesn't get 9 out of 10, or at least 8 out of 10, the perception of the general public is that the game isn't very good, or at least isn't worth the time and money, and that leads to poor sales.
You see this happen often when publishers and devs are vocally upset when a 7 out of 10 review is lower than their expectations. It's not that the game is necessarily bad, it just isn't going to sell as well as a highly rated game.
But I'm not sure that these early Vita game reviews mean much other than the simple fact that there doesn't seem to be a "killer app" among the group. The people that were going to buy a Vita are still going to buy a Vita, but the lack of a "killer app" means that the system won't catch on with the masses yet.
The_Darkest_Red
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Sales aside there is no way Sony could be happy with a Metacritic score of anything less than 80 for Golden Abyss.
I don't think the system would have a "killer app" even if a few of these games were scoring in the 90-95 range, to be honest.TangoAlphaLima said:
Where are you getting that from? It's been repeatedly stated to have around 4hr30mins of battery life and 7 hours of video.
It's going to happen a lot. And you're going to find a ton of unjustified bias against certain games as well, mainly console-esque titles like Golden Abyss, just because its on a handheld. I've seen plenty of reviewers flip-flop between their own opinions as well. Before GA came out, they were claiming they didn't want to see big action cutscenes like the ones in UC2 on a small screen. Now they're complaining that there aren't any. It's ridiculous.
Man-is-Obsolete
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This is comforting to hear
Jeff said that on the live stream. He said it wasn't an issue since he was plugged in most of the time.
Glorious Ownage
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Says who? Ign stress tested it running a game (can't remember which) with wifi on sound maxed and brightness maxed and I believe it crapped out just under 5 hours. That's excellent battery life in my book.
IllumiNate
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Booo I'll have my vita from amazon.ca in about an hour and ebgames won't budge on selling the memory cards until Wednesday. Not even gonna open it I guess
SuperSonic1305
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I like how Patrick adds a negative slant to every question.
"You can't do this you can't do that?"
But you can
"oh"
"You can't do this you can't do that?"
But you can
"oh"
Deadly Cyclone
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My work somehow partially blocks Giant Bomb. It comes up in text only. Odd thing.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I'm talking the series as a whole. It's sold well, don't get me wrong, but for how high profile of a game is it, you'd think it'd sell better than the less than 4 million UC2 did. It's one of the huge PS3 exclusives and for a quality game it's sad that it has what 13mil between all 3 releases? COD:MW3 did that in about a week.
Baconsammy
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Stupid me. I assumed it would just start when it was ready. I pressed play and it started.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
It's obvious you don't even bother to read posts.
The Elite
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Weird. Check another store. The one at Yonge and Eglinton here in Toronto was selling them. Same goes for the Futureshop at Yonge and Dundas. Not sure where you are.
The Elite
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I don't even see a play button. I see a big giant black block where the video should be.
I have Flash installed.
TangoAlphaLima
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Yeah, you might be right. Certainly if the games scoring in the 90-95 range weren't brand names, those wouldn't be "killer apps." Uncharted could have been, though, at least to some extent.
What history? Subjective history? Your subjective perception of history?
The point is these reviews are subjective to the score policy.
Baconsammy
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IGN is lying if they claim that for PS Vita games. Engadget did battery tests for all kinds of scenarios. The default brightness with wifi on playing Vita games = 3 hours maximum. Brightness all the way down nets you an hour more. Brightness all the way down, wifi off, audio off, gets you 4 and a half hours. PSP games on low settings nets you 5 hours. Videos upwards of 5-6 hours. Music 9 hours.
Yeah, seems to me that battery life is quite good for what we are getting, all thanks to the OLED, that 3D LCD is killing the 3DS battery life.
How easy are batteries to replace on the Vita?
Weirdly, my desire to buy this thing is decreasing with every minute of this stream.
I don't know, I guess games will look hot on it...
Phoenician_Viking
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I agree. Usually there are high attach rate for launch titles, if the system sells well.
It does require one.
The Elite
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Didn't we have a couple of gaffers do stress tests here and get better than that. In the 4-4:15 range?
Might have been skyghene22?
Baconsammy
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Jeff's numbers for Vita games matches the testing of Engadget and Gizmodo. IGN's wrong.
Well he's definitely wrong.
Hmm...
I don't know what's being done different. I have my Vita and I can definitely vouch for a 4ish hour battery life. Maybe because I'm not using the touch screen too much? Would touch screen drain batteries faster?
There are 2 parts to 3G:
(1) Mobile Network Connectivity
Turning off the "Mobile Network" setting will only switch off the data plan usage. Yes, when turned on, it will consume Vita's battery. The alternative is to have no connection at all, buy a battery pack, or tethered to a cellphone/MiFi device.
(2) Location Data
There is separate software setting for GPS locationing. It will also consume more battery if used repeatedly. On top of the Location Data system setting, the apps will also ask for your permission to use it (per session). They typically poll sparingly to avoid sucking too much battery. You may not be able to get accurate positioning in a Vita location-based apps/games without the built-in GPS hardware. Even if you tethered to something else, I believe the WiFi location-based data will be based on the IP access point of the tethered device rather than its GPS hardware.
You're absolutely correct to point out that it's up to individuals to see what work best for them.
The Elite
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How long have you run your system for?
Baconsammy
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From Engadget on battery:
We already know better than to expect the Vita to pack enough juice to get us through an international (or even domestic) flight, but we couldn't resist running it through a handful of battery tests anyway. Our first few power drains matched our review of the Japanese unit almost exactly -- three hours of dedicated gaming on the console's default settings left our handheld dead. Dragging the Vita's brightness slider down to its dimmest setting scored us another hour of playtime, and kicking the console into flight mode seemed to buy it another twenty minutes. We were able to game for a little longer in PSP mode, stretching the battery to nearly six hours of gameplay on the minimum brightness level with WiFi and audio disabled. We were hoping to drag the handheld's longevity out a bit further than this, but were unable to get the Vita off of the company line -- our game-heavy battery tests match the Vita's official battery life estimates almost blow-for-blow. Three to five hours of gameplay -- it's what Sony promised, and it's what we got.
Sony seems to have made looser estimates for media playback, however. Although audio playback fell just a few minutes shy of the rated nine hours, our video test eclipsed the expected five-hour runtime by a full hour. Although the Vita's six hours of video playback isn't enough to make up for its other electrical shortcomings, we have to respect a device that can handle Gone with the Wind, complete with overture and intermissions, and still have enough juice left over for some light gaming. That's an inflight experience we could get behind. Despite our love of Rhett Butler, though, we still feel a bit let down by the Vita's longevity.
We already know better than to expect the Vita to pack enough juice to get us through an international (or even domestic) flight, but we couldn't resist running it through a handful of battery tests anyway. Our first few power drains matched our review of the Japanese unit almost exactly -- three hours of dedicated gaming on the console's default settings left our handheld dead. Dragging the Vita's brightness slider down to its dimmest setting scored us another hour of playtime, and kicking the console into flight mode seemed to buy it another twenty minutes. We were able to game for a little longer in PSP mode, stretching the battery to nearly six hours of gameplay on the minimum brightness level with WiFi and audio disabled. We were hoping to drag the handheld's longevity out a bit further than this, but were unable to get the Vita off of the company line -- our game-heavy battery tests match the Vita's official battery life estimates almost blow-for-blow. Three to five hours of gameplay -- it's what Sony promised, and it's what we got.
Sony seems to have made looser estimates for media playback, however. Although audio playback fell just a few minutes shy of the rated nine hours, our video test eclipsed the expected five-hour runtime by a full hour. Although the Vita's six hours of video playback isn't enough to make up for its other electrical shortcomings, we have to respect a device that can handle Gone with the Wind, complete with overture and intermissions, and still have enough juice left over for some light gaming. That's an inflight experience we could get behind. Despite our love of Rhett Butler, though, we still feel a bit let down by the Vita's longevity.
I think you are right.
from what I hear, GB isn't the most favorable stream for vita
RomanticHeroX
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3 hours is on the low end. Maybe you'd get that with full brightness, full volume and network usage. Reasonable usage, I don't think, would get that low.
The Elite
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Yet we've had gaffers in this thread say it lasts longer. Not sure what's going on. I guess I'll have to come up with my own results.
So the question is: when will it have that killer app? Sony pushed really hard to have this mega launch line-up, but if that doesn't pan out, what do they have planned in the future?
With the 3DS, the launch lineup was 'meh' at best, but at least people KNEW there'd be plenty of great stuff coming. Do Vita owners have that same confidence?
And they've played for 3 constant hours? Or just mucked around for 3 hours?
I had it on basically all weekend. Going from full charge to near empty multiple times. I didn't actually time it, but it was definitely more than 3 hours. I played HSG through like the entire Habs vs Leafs game and some of the pre-game stuff and it was still going.
EDIT: I just realized I used a hockey game as my unit of time. I guess I can finally say I've become a Canadian. Heh.
Baconsammy
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I'm going to assume that it varies a bit based on the game being played. Not sure by how much though.
Glorious Ownage
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Not able to find my original source (though its possible I'm misremembering) but I did read on andriasanq.com they got 3 hours 47 minutes with Max brightness and sound on uncharted.
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