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I'll just put this out there. Is this face creepy or ugly?



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I always see your look with short girls who have pink or bright blue hair, often with piercings as well. girls who like the "rocker" look, I suppose
 
If you think you're being creepy, why shouldn't the person you're talking to think as much too? Shit, your opinion on the matter means more than theirs, even, since you know what you're thinking and not just what you're saying.

It's more like a "I'm taking everyone's advice and feigning confidence, but I seriously hope this doesn't flat out fall on it's face and come off as creepy." type of thing. Does that make sense?

On top of that, I had a friend that used to be a coworker in a game store, and people would hit on her all the time while she was at work and she got quite annoyed with it (of course, she was in a relationship though, and this was a game store)
 
Heh, now I have a mental image of dyed bearded ladies of small stature in NIN T-shirts.

lol rereading my sentence does make it sound a bit like that. What I should have said is

"I usually see GUYS WHO LOOK LIKE YOU (long hair, scruffy beard, the kind of clothes you're wearing) with short girls that have pink or bright blue hair, often with piercings as well "
 
It's more like a "I'm taking everyone's advice and feigning confidence, but I seriously hope this doesn't flat out fall on it's face and come off as creepy." type of thing. Does that make sense?

On top of that, I had a friend that used to be a coworker in a game store, and people would hit on her all the time while she was at work and she got quite annoyed with it (of course, she was in a relationship though, and this was a game store)

Well I mean being a cute girl working at a video game store has to be horrible, since you'll have tons of socially awkward guys just light up and think "SHE'S A NERD! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO CAN RELATE WITH ME! I HAVE A CHANCE!" and then awkwardly try to make something happen and fail miserably into despair and additional awkwardness. So that sort of setting, phew, you have to be pretty suave about it to get through the wall of defenses she probably has lined up in order to stay sane.

That goes for any attractive woman in any setting, though. She's going to be hit on frequently, by normal well-adjusted guys. Being awkward about it or portraying your actions as creepy or anything else is setting yourself up to fail.
 
Well I mean being a cute girl working at a video game store has to be horrible, since you'll have tons of socially awkward guys just light up and think "SHE'S A NERD! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO CAN RELATE WITH ME! I HAVE A CHANCE!" and then awkwardly try to make something happen and fail miserably into despair and additional awkwardness. So that sort of setting, phew, you have to be pretty suave about it to get through the wall of defenses she probably has lined up in order to stay sane.

That goes for any attractive woman in any setting, though. She's going to be hit on frequently, by normal well-adjusted guys. Being awkward about it or portraying your actions as creepy or anything else is setting yourself up to fail.

I guess that makes sense. Well I'm still proud of myself for attempting yesterday, despite it failing for reasons beyond my control.
 
In all honesty, I'm not into most of the girls in my scene. Many of them are drug addicts, very loose, or just generally brain dead. I guess that's how they see me?
 
Well I mean being a cute girl working at a video game store has to be horrible, since you'll have tons of socially awkward guys just light up and think "SHE'S A NERD! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO CAN RELATE WITH ME! I HAVE A CHANCE!" and then awkwardly try to make something happen and fail miserably into despair and additional awkwardness.

lol

I can imagine how that goes down.

*guy walks to the counter with game he wants to buy* *hands it to the girl*

"Do you play games?"

"Yes sometimes!"

"I'd like to play games with you! Haha!"

"I have a boyfriend"

"Oh. Right."

"We have this game second-hand. Would you like that instead? $10 knocked off the price"

"errr... yes." >.>
 
lol

I can imagine how that goes down.

*guy walks to the counter with game he wants to buy* *hands it to the girl*

"Do you play games?"

"Yes sometimes!"

"I'd like to play games with you! Haha!"

"I have a boyfriend"

"Oh. Right."

"We have this game second-hand. Would you like that instead? $10 knocked off the price"

"errr... yes." >.>

I got plenty of great stories from this girl. One famous line someone actually used was "You're prettier than all the guys in here."
 
In all honesty, I'm not into most of the girls in my scene. Many of them are drug addicts, very loose, or just generally brain dead. I guess that's how they see me?

Could be!

You don't have to look like you're into the music you're into, or into the scene you're into. I look like a soccer mom, and listen to industrial/metal, play video games, work in the games industry, service my own car, and have a rabbit instead of a kid. It never hurts to surprise people.
 
After looking at it more, it really does look like the angle. Sorry!

I think you'd definitely benefit with shorter hair, but that's just me.
I've had it shorter before, but because of fine my hair is you can see my scalp annoyingly. :/

I have the same problem. I'd love lots of hair.

Nah, I don't think you need to wear a hat, though on a bad-hair-day I treasure my caps, and can't recommend them enough. I just think if you're growing your hair then that's what it looks like. If you're not then you have to decide if you want to look like you're growing your hair, or if you want to get it shaped properly.
Thanks for the advice!

I've never grown my hair out beyond how it currently looks, so I'd at least like to try it once.

Oh and here's how it looks from the front (picture is nearly 2 years old and a bit shorter, but it showcases how it usually looks):

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Also maybe it's just my anxiety, but I always worry I'm not good looking enough. :(
 
lol

I can imagine how that goes down.

*guy walks to the counter with game he wants to buy* *hands it to the girl*

"Do you play games?"

"Yes sometimes!"

"I'd like to play games with you! Haha!"

"I have a boyfriend"

"Oh. Right."

"We have this game second-hand. Would you like that instead? $10 knocked off the price"

"errr... yes." >.>

A friend of mine had someone add her on PSN with his phone number. He said that she could text him "if she has texting."

It was one of the most hilariously creepy things I've seen...this month.
 
A friend of mine had someone add her on PSN with his phone number. He said that she could text him "if she has texting."

It was one of the most hilariously creepy things I've seen...this month.

Also one of the most hilariously desperate things you've seen all month. I suppose it also depends on if he knew her to begin with. I'm guessing he didn't. Just cottoned on to the fact that it's a girl.
 
A friend of mine had someone add her on PSN with his phone number. He said that she could text him "if she has texting."

It was one of the most hilariously creepy things I've seen...this month.

Someone find and link that video of TF2 on the GAF server where that guy was trying to hit on a girl by gifting her Left 4 Dead or something. It was pitiful and hilarious at the same time.
 
Could be!

You don't have to look like you're into the music you're into, or into the scene you're into. I look like a soccer mom, and listen to industrial/metal, play video games, work in the games industry, service my own car, and have a rabbit instead of a kid. It never hurts to surprise people.

True.
 
I'm talking about what I think of his appearance, without knowing anything about him on a personal level. I've giving my opinion, without reference to any other women, be they in his social circle or you.

I don't think you're being entirely honest here.

I'm not putting down the guy's looks or sense of style, but he's definitely not going to carry on fine unchanged without a problem. While that's true for the most part, it's not true if he is trying to attract girls outside of his social circle, ones that are likely more girly, dress differently. He is more likely to attract girls who like that style, which likely share the same style. No offense but girls who share the same style come off a little boyish to me, or are often wearing way too many attention seeking, loud attire.



RawPower, I now especially don't appreciate you calling me out for being rude or disrespectful in this thread when people are clearly being completely un-constructive and VERY rude towards you in the Dating Age thread. You're letting people AGREE that the beard is "repulsive" and for some reason THAT doesn't bother you.. but my comments, oh lawd.
 
Sadetar said:
If you associate yourself with the neckbeard, you have serious troubles my friend. And I am not even trying to be mean, just honest.

Girl says you have SERIOUS TROUBLES...

You don't get sensitive with her.. instead you think the rest of her post is a "relief", and you reference CooTooLoo:

RawPower said:
This is a relief to hear after one of the comments someone left me in the other thread.

Then

RawPower said:
So I guess it was just the neckbeard that people found repulsive?

Sadetar said:

So agreeing that you look REPULSIVE isn't rude.. but agreeing that you look ugly or creepy is?
 
I've had it shorter before, but because of fine my hair is you can see my scalp annoyingly. :/

Thanks for the advice!

I've never grown my hair out beyond how it currently looks, so I'd at least like to try it once.

Oh and here's how it looks from the front (picture is nearly 2 years old and a bit shorter, but it showcases how it usually looks):

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Also maybe it's just my anxiety, but I always worry I'm not good looking enough. :(

That's a MUCH better picture for seeing your hairline and face-shape.

Don't cut anything until it's at the length you want, plus a bit, even if it looks like crap. Grow it past your target length by a couple of months, then have it styled by a good men's hairdresser. They always take off too much getting the shape right, and then you have a few weeks to grow back into the new length, rather than a few months.

You're plenty cute enough. You'll get better-looking as you age too. Men take longer than women to hit their stride. You won't be settled into your bones for a good five or six years, or perhaps more, so right now enjoy playing crazy changes and developing new looks.

Edit:
I don't think you're being entirely honest here.

Note my indifference :)
 
I've had it shorter before, but because of fine my hair is you can see my scalp annoyingly. :/

Thanks for the advice!

I've never grown my hair out beyond how it currently looks, so I'd at least like to try it once.

Oh and here's how it looks from the front (picture is nearly 2 years old and a bit shorter, but it showcases how it usually looks):

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Also maybe it's just my anxiety, but I always worry I'm not good looking enough. :(

That's a much better picture, and I actually like the hair there.

You have the same look about you as my boyfriends brother!
 
No, I think he was annoyed that CoolTooLoo didn't sugar-coat her statement in anyway whatsoever. Sometimes it's best to word things in a more sensitive way.

He chose the not constructive words.. her reply to those words was simply "both." Very similar to the girl implying his beard was REPULSIVE.

Then, she added: "I don't like your style at all. Your hair is way too long for my taste and I'm not really a fan of facial hair."

Those are all statements pertaining to her own taste.. hardly rude or in need of sugar coating. Is she supposed to lie and claim she likes how he looks?

Sorry to defend, just found the people jumping on her more rude than she was being.
 
RawPower, I now especially don't appreciate you calling me out for being rude or disrespectful in this thread when people are clearly being completely un-constructive and VERY rude towards you in the Dating Age thread. You're letting people AGREE that the beard is "repulsive" and for some reason THAT doesn't bother you.. but my comments, oh lawd.

Fair point. I shouldn't have called you out like that. I apologize.
 
Could be!

You don't have to look like you're into the music you're into, or into the scene you're into. I look like a soccer mom, and listen to industrial/metal, play video games, work in the games industry, service my own car, and have a rabbit instead of a kid. It never hurts to surprise people.


I have to admit, this is the first thing I thought of reading that:

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On another note, my girlfriend thankfully likes the neckbeard. She actually gets a little upset whenever I have to shave for work.
 
Lady-GAF, out of curiosity, how's my hair? I'm tempted to grow it longer.

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Also from the picture how old would you say I look? Bear in mind I'm 22.

I like it. You could always grow it out, then of course if you don't like it, cut it, and I'd say you look about your age.


I'll just put this out there. Is this face creepy or ugly?



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It's not creepy or ugly to me. I think your hair looks good, but I'm a fan of guys with long hair.


Here's one for LadyGAF,

I pretty much never hit on girls since for me personally it feels super creepy. Unless I'm out for drinks, dancing with someone, or actually on a date. Otherwise pretty much nothing. I'll talk and be sociable like a normal person but I don't eye up/make flirty comments out of the blue.

Does this make me appear completely uninterested in girls around me or just polite? I'm hoping the latter.

I suppose that could make me appear to lack confidence as well, although that's not really the case.

I would assume any guy who goes out of his way to talk to me would be interested, but maybe that's just me.


Question to LadyGAF in general: Do you find it creepy to be hit on in public by a stranger in general, regardless of how it's executed or physical attractiveness?

I don't find it creepy in general. It's depends on the guy if he's creepy.


Uh-oh

*Ahem*

Anyways, to stay on topic. LadyGAF what is your opinion of guys who don't vary their clothing much? Everyday I pretty much wear a dark colored hoodie, jeans, and a t-shirt with some sort of design or logo on it.

That's fine with me. As long as everything you wear is clean and looks decent I don't see it being a problem. That's pretty much how I dress.


In all honesty, I'm not into most of the girls in my scene. Many of them are drug addicts, very loose, or just generally brain dead. I guess that's how they see me?

Not necessarily. I've met met plenty of people who dress and look the same way too and they weren't like you described.
 
In all honesty, I'm not into most of the girls in my scene. Many of them are drug addicts, very loose, or just generally brain dead. I guess that's how they see me?

Look, I can't read your shirt very well but I'm going to guess it's a Nausea shirt, and I'm going to guess that you're into crust/punk and maybe a bit of metal. I kinda used to look like you, I had long hair and I would usually wear a bandanna and of course I would grow a beard. I never attracted a single girl, and to be honest some girls actually I looked kinda scary(they told me).

My advice, you can still listen to the music you like even if you clean up your appearance. I know headbanging doesn't feel the same with short hair but I think you should at least try something a bit cleaner, like short hair and a well kept beard(or no beard).
 
On another note, my girlfriend thankfully likes the neckbeard. She actually gets a little upset whenever I have to shave for work.

It's her security blanket.. she knows there is zero chance you'll cheat on her with that neckbeard ;)

I seriously do want to unsubscribe from this thread.. is that even possible at GAF? Can't find the link..

lol
 
He chose the not constructive words.. her reply to those words was simply "both." Very similar to the girl implying his beard was REPULSIVE.

Then, she added: "I don't like your style at all. Your hair is way too long for my taste and I'm not really a fan of facial hair."

Those are all statements pertaining to her own taste.. hardly rude or in need of sugar coating. Is she supposed to lie and claim she likes how he looks?

Sorry to defend, just found the people jumping on her more rude than she was being.

Well, if you don't really want to know the answer, don't ask it. However, a lot of people don't answer quite so coldly. People tend to choose their words carefully.

I certainly didn't expect it. I'm not jumping on her btw...
 
On another note, my girlfriend thankfully likes the neckbeard. She actually gets a little upset whenever I have to shave for work.

can someone define (by providing a picture) of a "bad" neckbeard? I have a beard but I keep it relatively short and it does grow on my neck.

Mine is very similar to this
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and I personally think that looks great (obviously biased opinion) and I think it looks bad when some guys shave down starting at the jaw line. Looks too "douche bag" beard to me
 
can someone define (by providing a picture) of a "bad" neckbeard? I have a beard but I keep it relatively short and it does grow on my neck.

Mine is very similar to this
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and I personally think that looks great (obviously biased opinion) and I think it looks bad when some guys shave down starting at the jaw line. Looks too "douche bag" beard to me


All neckbeards are bad neckbeards. Just because you have beard growth on your neck (which is a normal place for hair to grow) doesn't mean you have a neckbeard. Neckbeard refers to bushy, unkempt beards that may be thin on the cheeks but denser in the neck area. Not a good look.

That picture is not a neckbeard. It's just well-maintained stubble.

I agree with you about shaving too close to the jawline. The risk for douchiness is substantial, but as long as it's not a pencil thin line beard, it can work.
 
Well I mean being a cute girl working at a video game store has to be horrible, since you'll have tons of socially awkward guys just light up and think "SHE'S A NERD! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO CAN RELATE WITH ME! I HAVE A CHANCE!"

It's not that bad. Working at GameStop I got hit one maybe once or twice total with the exception of this creepy guy who would wait in my line and call me "sweet lips" when getting rung up. Every time he came I would just let my coworker handle the transaction, very obviously switch computers when he was up. He stopped coming in after a while. Most guys that frequent GS are not ones who are likely to strike up any conversation with you other than talking to you about the game they are going to or want to preorder.

There were also these weirdos who kept prank calling and asking for me by name. It got so bad to the point that we had to shut our lines off for a day, because they called non stop. My boss called up the phone company to get a hold of the number since they were blocking it, and ended up having a nice chat with one of their moms.

Other than that, it was a really fun job.
 
I would assume any guy who goes out of his way to talk to me would be interested, but maybe that's just me.
No that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the input.

I'm lucky enough that girls will start talking to me first often enough. Otherwise I'd be pretty hopeless.

Still, probably need to stop worrying so much about it.
 
Well, if you don't really want to know the answer, don't ask it. However, a lot of people don't answer quite so coldly. People tend to choose their words carefully.

I certainly didn't expect it. I'm not jumping on her btw...

Yeah, I think it was the tone that put me off, initially. It seemed really callous. This may be the internet, but the persona you see here is who I really am. So with that in mind, it felt no different than it would have had she said it to my face.

However, considering the kind of flack I'm getting in the other thread, I shouldn't have jumped on her like that. :/
 
Yeah, I think it was the tone that put me off, initially. It seemed really callous. This may be the internet, but the persona you see here is who I really am. So with that in mind, it felt no different than it would have had she said it to my face.

However, considering the kind of flack I'm getting in the other thread, I shouldn't have jumped on her like that. :/

I've not seen the other thread.

I will clarify a few things though: It's certainly the sort response you will get regardless of whether it is true or not, on the internet, but I wasn't expecting it in this thread.

The truth is though raw, don't ask those questions on the internet if you're not prepared for that kind of response.

Criticising your beard harshly I imagine isn't that hard to take though as it is something you are able to improve. I personally would be honest, but I would also choose my words carefully.
 
Yeah, I think it was the tone that put me off, initially. It seemed really callous. This may be the internet, but the persona you see here is who I really am. So with that in mind, it felt no different than it would have had she said it to my face.

However, considering the kind of flack I'm getting in the other thread, I shouldn't have jumped on her like that. :/

Hey man, I'm not a girl so ignore me if you want, but I think you could improve your look substantially without making any fundamental changes to your style by cleaning up your beard a bit. Women (on average) like a short, well-maintained beard or stubble.

science said:
Abstract

The aim of this study was to examine the effects of systematic alterations in male facial hair on female perceptions. A within-subjects design employed one condition (facial hair) incorporating five levels (clean-shaven, light stubble, heavy stubble, light beard and full beard). All levels were applied to three different facial designs, constructed using FACES software. The resulting 15 male faces were rated by 60 females on various attributes. Male faces displaying a full beard were considered the most masculine, aggressive, socially mature, and older. Males with a light beard were considered the most dominant. Males with light stubble were considered to be the most attractive, light stubble was also preferred for both short- and long-term relationships.

The "full beard" in the study is thick but trimmed. So shorter than what you've got going on now.
 
I'll agree with keeping your facial hair in check being a help. I notice a difference in the attention I get when I have a fresh shave or slight stubble as opposed to when I have my homely looking beard.

I can't really rock a well trimmed beard just because it grows in really wiry.
 
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