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Playstation Vita western launch thread | It only does everything, everywhere.
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Welcome to the world of people who used OtherOS, and warned you that in the future more features would be lost in the name of security once the precedent had been set.
I was angry then, and I'm angry now.
Depends on the game. But based on past PS3 and PSP games, most developers don't add save management features in game.
Because it's totally the same thing.
Managing my saves is as bad as a plane full of people dying.
You as a legitimate customer suffered because the PSP was hacked to hell and back so developers in turn abandoned the platform as it was pirated to hell and back.
If a minor inconvenience over a game save helps stop that happening again then I'm all for it .
LiquidMetal14
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I won't argue the otherOS thing but the fact is people did hack things using save game exploits. Sort of like the Wii. It sucks and again, as someone who has paid Sony many dollars, I hate it but I have to live with it. I love the Vita too much to make that some reason to not want one.
Actually, it was: the original Lumines was prey to a save game exploit that blew the PSP wide open. In fact, I remember when it became public knowledge b/c copies of Lumines were going for as much as $100 on ebay.
LiquidMetal14
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Man, I'm eyeing like 4 PSP games. You can't take PSP game screenshots with the OS capture feature right?
I think I'm going to hold back as I want another RPG and a puzzler and a recreational game. Hustle Kings will be free for those of us with the PSN version so that should fill the casual void nicely on top of Hot Shots.
I think I'm going to hold back as I want another RPG and a puzzler and a recreational game. Hustle Kings will be free for those of us with the PSN version so that should fill the casual void nicely on top of Hot Shots.
Does it say 2G as well? Like someone mentioned, H stands for HSPA which is just a fancy word for 3G. I'm on TMobile but I've always understood the networks as this:
2G Edge
3G HSPA
3.5G HSPA+
I wish people would stop banging the smartphones drum.
Playing games on them is, quite frankly, complete and utter shit, they do not compete with a dedicated games machine in the slightest.
Vita is not for the bird slinging gamers, it never will be, its for people who like more meat on their gaming bones, and there's a lot of us out there.
phosphor112
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It's because most of those things are going to be addressed already?... that's probably why?
How do you create 20 saves with a Vita game?
Well, shows how much I know about hacking I guess.
I still don't see taking away something so essential as justifiable.
But whatever. Obviously I'm in the minority here. I'll stop ruining the thread.
I'll just be playing my Vita with bitter resentment from now on.
Lol, thats exactly what he meant! Way to miss the point.
Im doing the same looking -- looking at every PSP game I passed up the past few years. Im going to be so broke.
Hispanicguy
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I'm also wondering about this. Big music game fan here and would love to have another (music) game alongside Lumines.
Cannot wait for DJ Max Technika. The moment they announced it, I knew a Vita was in my future. Just waiting on my tax return lol.
sakipon
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I agree with you. This is supposed to be a superior dedicated gaming handheld. Yet it doesn't even a way to manage saves.
Wait a few weeks or months. People will start to see the problem after the hype.
Pai Pai Master
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I couldn't control myself and picked up like 5 or 6 PSP games I hadn't had a chance to try. The OLED is just too good of an excuse to play more of them.
Really happy with the way Dissidia 012, Trails in the Sky, Lunar: Silver Star Harmony and Prinny look and play on Vita.
They won't, because they're smartphone gamers and they are served very well by the platform of their choice. iOS and Android are extremely awesome for people looking for those kinds of games, but they don't do anything for me. I started to hate myself after playing enough of shit like Tiny Tower and, while I enjoy the core gameplay, Jetpack Joyride is just an exercise in repetitiveness. Most smartphone games are still like that, even if they're very well executed.
I just can't do games like that. I'm instantly appreciating the amount of depth in games like Golden Abyss, WipEout 2048 and Stardust Delta. Even games like Stardust Delta which could technically work on iOS are designed with a PS3 mentality by a PS3 developer, so they really know how to make a pick-up and play arcade style game have some serious depth to make the experience far more engaging. Smartphone games can get you hooked pretty quick but I never feel sucked into it like these games do for me.
My english isn't the best. If that's not what you mean, then don't use that example.
Well anyway, it's nice to see some people agree. If nothing else, it's confirmation to me that I'm not crazy. Thank you agreeable people!
I, too, am frustrated by the way that save games are handled; but I do feel that Sony will address this in future firmware, especially since it's obvious that several other features/functions need some updating.
LiquidMetal14
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War of the Lions 10
Tactics Ogre 20
The 3rd Birthday 20
Ys Oath in Felghana 15
Ys 7 15
Ys Chronicles 15
Legend of Heroes TitS 15
LUNAR (awesome remake in my opinion) 15
I would love to see Star Ocean 1/2 remakes/ports on PSN as I loved 1 on PSP. I also wanted to get Ridge Racer but then I realized it's coming to Vita in May/June. I can hold off for the hopefully fixed and content complete version with online.
Ahh, the auld Atari Lynx. I loved that house brick too. i fondly remember a summer games game (with surfing) and Batman Returns side scroller (with incredible graphics).
I hope to have as many fond memories with my Vita
Smartphone gaming is awesome. Vita gaming will be awesome.
The first thing you guys need to do is get off your high horses and deal with reality. Smartphone/tablet gaming is here, it's not going anywhere, and there is some overlap in the demographics. It's not going to kill dedicated gaming, but there is increased competition for people's entertainment time and dollars. Deal with it.
Impressions please!
LiquidMetal14
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Ahh, the auld Atari Lynx. I loved that house brick too. i fondly remember a summer games game (with surfing) and Batman Returns side scroller (with incredible graphics).
I hope to have as many fond memories with my Vita
If the OS was the only thing to judge the system on, it would be in the hall of fame instantly. This thing is breaking new ground in some of these features for a dedicated portable gaming console.
Pics too!
famousmortimer
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All i've seen so far is 3G and (H)
On my phone, which is also ATT, all ive ever seen is 3G and E (E = edge).
That's a good comparison. It makes about as much sense and is as helpful in securing the goal it was purportedly designed to.
In my reality smartphone gaming is a good way to waste a few minutes, nothing more. And it's not like I haven't tried the popular stuff.
yankeehater
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The main reason I bought a Vita is for console ports. I want to be able to play real games on the go.
Castor Krieg
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I meant that sometimes we need to go through the things we don't like for some reason or another. As someone has said, PSP was hacked using save game exploits. Is it shit you cannot access your saves? Yes, but that is the price you have to pay if we are to have healthy PSVita ecosystem.
Just to remind people it's confirmed: http://www.playstation.co.kr/ps_community/com_news_view.sce?sid=20158
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah, that's typical for OLED but if they are actually noticeable during gameplay when you're not playing in pitch blackness, then it's a problem.
If it's dark and I'm playing, they're noticeable during a loadscreen or while launching the system or a game, but if they show up during play you should probably exchange your system.
LiquidMetal14
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Yes.
Anyone want to play some HSG? I'm going into the cat lobby now!
I will hang for about 10-15 to see if anyone shows up.
AAAAAND booked. Game begins in 9 minutes. Get in while you can folks! Cat lobby 1!
Sorry. I didnt get that impression from your other posts.
Anyways, I think his point was that this is just another classic case of legit people getting screwed over because of the off chance that someone might do something theyre not supposed to. A better comparison would be DRM and all the negative aspects of it screwing up people that legitimately bought a game. It sucks.
I was thinking about rebuying all of the Ys games digitally just to have them (and support XSEED further). Im currently 30 hours into LoH:TiTS and, if I dont beat that by the 22nd, Im probably going to get the digital version and finish it on my Vita.
Lunar Silver Star Harmony was my first real chance to play the game. People seem to have mixed feelings on it but I loved it. Great game.
I should go back and get a lot of the JRPGs that I hear so much about. A lot of people say that the PSP was great for them but the only 2 I own are LoH and Lunar.
I havent played a handheld since GBA so Im definitely craving some turnbased/strategy rpgs! Any other must haves?
LiquidMetal14
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I basically stopped playing LoH TitS just to play it on Vita. I resumed yesterday by transferring my old PSP save. Feels good.
sfedai0, there are plenty which are cheap. I would browse the store and start writing them down.
HSG game in 6 minutes!
CAT LOBBY 1
sfedai0, there are plenty which are cheap. I would browse the store and start writing them down.
HSG game in 6 minutes!
CAT LOBBY 1
Working now jerk! But I'll be back for a rematch later.
Though My vita froze during both online tournaments I was in last night. Hope it's just a fluke and not a symptom of something worse.
Blue Submarine No. 6
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Yes, I believe it is. I was looking at it in the PSN download list on my Vita yesterday, if I'm not mistaken. I was checking to see what games I already own on PSN I can download to my Vita...
That's too bad... I put one on the very first thing when I unboxed my Vita: pulled the system out of the plastifoam envelope it comes wrapped in, laid it on top of the envelope on the kitchen counter, chased the cats off the counter, brushed the Vita's face with one of my PSP microfibre cloths, then layed the screen saver on it nice and clean, all in about 2 minutes flat. It went without a hitch...
LiquidMetal14
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I swear they could make a little RPG with the engine they use for the HSG lobbies and I would buy the shit out of it. So cute, them little buggers ><
4 MINUTES LEFT TILL START
I believe you can join while in the prep screen so you have like 6-ish minutes in reality.
4 MINUTES LEFT TILL START
I believe you can join while in the prep screen so you have like 6-ish minutes in reality.
kingellesar
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Hello everyone, anyone recommend one of the following? Going to pick up a Vita on Amazon and do the £15 game deal:
Virtua Tennis 4 (I do love VT series but is this worth picking up?)
Luminies (Never played one, not sure if it will be my thing? How much is it on PSN?)
Dungeon Hunter Alliance (not seen anything about this game?)
Any help much appreciated!
Virtua Tennis 4 (I do love VT series but is this worth picking up?)
Luminies (Never played one, not sure if it will be my thing? How much is it on PSN?)
Dungeon Hunter Alliance (not seen anything about this game?)
Any help much appreciated!
Sorry but you don't just take out essential features to make a little more money and expect me to not complain. Expected losses are part of the plan, and if you figure out that those losses are too much (like with PSP) you provide a secure work around (like the content management software). None of these require you to lock out access to saves on the system itself. They will fix this.
Those lobbies remind me of Animal Crossing.
I still don't get how near works. On my old account (japanese) I had about 10 people show up, with almost covering 8km distance. But now I switched my account to US account, and use near I get nobody show up and distance is only 2km. Also I can't even click on my own account, even though in the near seting I set to show my online ID.
I didn't notice any major difference in fps. I played ep2: Operation Black Storm. I had the Vita/GO side by side.. When the action picked up the Vita version seem like it fared a bit better, nothing too significant. The game loaded faster, colors popped more. The game looks incredible sitting next to the GO version. The right analog stick works great, albeit a bit loose while and an moving around. It's still an improvement over the d-pad, and movement feels a lot less limited. The game is no longer clunky. Very pleased, might even playthrough it again soon.
Just got these in today (I really like the case, but definetly overpaid for it.)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/vitastuff.jpg/
(phone quality picture, the blue is really lively.)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/vitastuff.jpg/
(phone quality picture, the blue is really lively.)
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