MaritalWheat
Member
Oh man, this is so addicting. Can't wait to try out more slopes...and dat wingsuit!
SSX Demo: Feburary 21; (Euro PSN) February 22 [Up On Xbox Live/PSN]
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Grassclipper
Member
So I'm down to 1.56.04 on JT2 and I'm stretched thin. It feels like I can't possibly go any faster. Maybe down to 1.55 but that is it. Curse you Dragnet, curse you!
But all in all it have been a blast playing, I actually thought I would be among the lowest scoring members but turns out I got some decent times at least, which is good enough for me.
But all in all it have been a blast playing, I actually thought I would be among the lowest scoring members but turns out I got some decent times at least, which is good enough for me.
Indeed, I don't get the people that are hating the game because it doesn't feel like the old games, games have to evolve. I bet that if the game stayed like the older ones people would've complained that the game feels outdated.
Yeah man, you're an inspiration.
I'm sure I'll beat your scores...someday.
StrikerObi
Member
You can press LT and hold a direction to bail on a rail without jumping off of it. You just slide right off and keep going.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I hope they fix the grinding mechanic day one or close after release, every time I grind something manually I feel like I'm playing the lottery, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
StrikerObi
Member
I feel the same way. Also can somebody clear this up for terrain grinding? Do I need to hold LT the entire time to stay on the grind, or can I just press it to get on and again to get off?
I think you gotta hold it down, because as soon as I let go of the trigger my character de-magnetizes from whatever I'm grinding on.
Grassclipper
Member
Haha thanks. I stayed up late last night even though I had an early exam just to beat Dragnet's score and when I came home again the bastard had just destroyed my time.
Is anyone else having trouble bailing out of grinds? Sometimes when I try (mainly on the railing under the railroad in the beginning) I get sucked right back in again and end up losing valuable time anyway. I don't really know what I'm doing wrong.
I don't think you're doing anything wrong, I'm convinced the grind mechanics are sort of broken.
I've been chasing you for half an hour and I just took a second and a half off your time.
SUCK IT BITCH!!! RAGRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
This is what I feel when ever I beat a ghost of someone I don't know at all.
It got me pretty down, loving how much the game pushes you to be better and better though! It's the kind of game that will create a generation of better gamers. I really feel like this game benefits from taking breaks with it, I've posted some of my best times after sleeping on my progress and coming back first time in the morning.
Haha feels good that at least I made someone struggle to beat my score...guess I should try beating yours now.
Yeah, I feel the same way, I used to feel the same way about Rock Band/ Guitar Hero as well, my best scores were after I felt rested or played other games for a while.
I don't know how I feel about this demo. My two favorite SSX games are the original and Tricky. It seems like that soul is somewhere inside this game, breaking free every now and then, but it's really jarring and out of place when it does. Considering that I found Untracked to be one of the most boring places to play, I think I'll pass if this whole game is like that. 
Yeah, the grinding is a bit difficult in this game.
Grinding is split into two different mechanics. Rails and terrain edges.
Rails are automatic getting onto them, you simply steer close and you're magnetically sucked into them. To dismount, you have to press the LT/grind button and the left stick in the direction you wish to get off.
Terrain edges are not automatic and require you to be very, very straight on to get on them, and you have to be holding the LT/grind button both to get on and to stay on. On terrain edges, letting go of the LT/grind button (and pressing the left stick in the direction you wish to dismount) gets you off of them.
I feel like the grind button should enable the magnetic assist. The developers can leave the auto rail mouting in there, I kind of like that, to be honest. It's easy to hop off. But as it stands, terrain edges are really hard to consistently grind. Once you're on them, it's magic and it's easy to just let go of the LT/grind button to get off. But it's that glaring contrast in difficulty of mounting them that's a bit annoying. I don't want automatic terrain mounting because I feel you'd be grinding everything by accident -- because there are a lot of terrain edges to grind.
ElzarTheBam
Member
A story for you guys, the last couple of days have been intense over at HaloGaf, when you throw a competitive game at a competitive crowd, shit gets ridiculous.
The last 5-6 pages have shown an intense rivalry brewing between myself, Bobs99, Lyphen, Tawpgun and wwm0nkey.
Just so awesome.
The last 5-6 pages have shown an intense rivalry brewing between myself, Bobs99, Lyphen, Tawpgun and wwm0nkey.
Just so awesome.
Grassclipper
Member
I really feel like this game benefits from taking breaks with it, I've posted some of my best times after sleeping on my progress and coming back first time in the morning.
Yeah there is no way I would have the time I currently have if your ghost hadn't been there to frustrate me to do better. A question for you though, how do you manage to get away so quickly when you jump out of the chopper? I'm falling behind you instantly and it just seems so weird.
Yeah I think you're pretty spot on, the magnetism to auto grindable pipes haven't given me much trouble, is the manual grinding that has screwed up so many runs of mine.
I do a crail backflip (Circle, Triangle?) before I land, gives me enough boost to hit the first flare and following that the first ramp. If you trick well enough over the ramp (and don't hit the little bump just past it) you should have enough boost to get you to the first big drop!
Grassclipper
Member
I'm still having problems bailing out of the autogrind rails. Do you have to press and hold triangle (or LT/Y) and a directional button or just press it quickly and release the button again?
Ah okay, gotta try that. I've been messing around with some spins when I jump out but the chopper but the boost I've been getting has been minimal.
Ah okay, gotta try that. I've been messing around with some spins when I jump out but the chopper but the boost I've been getting has been minimal.
Baconsammy
Banned
Just press LT and move the left stick in the direction you want to go. No button necessary.
Yes, you can only see ghosts of friends on your list, at least in the demo.
I'll speak to Mr. Batty about it and see if I can get us any input onto it. Or maybe something that we're missing, perhaps.
I'd really hope it gets changed, however, maybe through a patch.
If you go into your RiderNet wall, you can also scroll way down to the bottom of your Rivals (friends) list and even see friends of friends! (I don't know if this happens on PS3, but it works this way on 360!)
Little Old Man
Member
Only just found out about the boost button. No wonder I couldn't get gold on the race...oh dear.
Remember that flips are always worth more than spins!
Maybe suggest autogrinding on both rails and edges, but make the L2 button a 'turn off sticky' activator that completely removes any magnetism while pressed, meaning we can skip right over rails and edges we don't want to? That'd remove confusion over what you can grind on (everything regardless of button presses), and at the same time allow you to avoid getting magnetised onto everything you go near with a simple button hold.
That sounds even better, I hope the devs are reading this thread xD
I can't get gold in the First race
How do I unlock the 2nd track?
Thanks guys.
Watching this video helped with my time a lot, obviously I don't play nearly as good as him but it helps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_SKHJlnp4
And the other stage (bulldog) Is located in New Zealand, just look for it on the globe and you'll find it.
That's actually a really great idea! I emailed Batty about all of this and when I get his response, I'll send him your idea too! An option to simply change the grinding set up would be awesome. Bury it in the options menu so that new players don't have to bother with it, but so that we can access it!
I mainly want to hear from him about what they playtested. I'm sure this is the best way they thought to do it, probably for new players, but I just want to hear the reasoning behind it, is all.
And yeah, once again, the devs are really eager to make sure we're happy with the game, which is why they've been in constant communication. (I've never really seen this level of support and communication with a console release. Ever.) Hopefully we can work something out. c:
Sidenote: y'all already know this, but I'm hyped as fuck right now. 5 more days!!
lmao
This game feels like you're not even moving unless you have boost. The difference in speed is pretty nuts.
I'm planning on double-dipping, don't worry.
My roommates have PS3s, so I'll be playing on their systems. I used to own a PS3, I'll have to find out what my PSN account was! I'm betting it was soultron or soultronGAF. I'll find it and add it to the list!
EDIT: PSN/SEN: soultron
iFootball
Member
This : )
That video helped alot, maybe not trying to do 15 tricks in the air might help. lol.
Thanks for the help.
Anytime, and I also find it hard to stop tricking on race events, it's like muscle memory.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Yeah, it's really great. If you turn the music volume all the way down it gets very atmospheric and immersive. But music is a pretty big part of SSX, so what I've done is to put it at 5/10 so that I still hear it but also hear more of the sound effects.
Exactly. It's not just a carbon copy of SSX3 with new courses, it's an evolution. I know some people would have preferred it to be the former, but deciding not to give it a fair chance because it doesn't feel exactly like the old games is nothing but robbing yourself of a great experience.
If there's one change I'm not so sure about it's the speed. In some situations I love it, but sometimes the game just feels too fast. I find the race in the demo to be quite a lot more difficult than in SSX3, because you often have so little time to react to what's coming up.
I do think rails and terrain edges should be treated the same (the way it is now doesn't really make sense to me), but I think L2 should simply be the grind button in both cases. Auto-grinding when you don't want to can quickly get annoying. By requiring you to hold a button to do it you'd get much more intuitive control over when it does or does not happen.
That's actually a really great idea! I emailed Batty about all of this and when I get his response, I'll send him your idea too! An option to simply change the grinding set up would be awesome. Bury it in the options menu so that new players don't have to bother with it, but so that we can access it!
I mainly want to hear from him about what they playtested. I'm sure this is the best way they thought to do it, probably for new players, but I just want to hear the reasoning behind it, is all.
And yeah, once again, the devs are really eager to make sure we're happy with the game, which is why they've been in constant communication. (I've never really seen this level of support and communication with a console release. Ever.) Hopefully we can work something out. c:
Sidenote: y'all already know this, but I'm hyped as fuck right now. 5 more days!!
Glad to help! Hopefully he likes it, it feels like an elegant and simple solution to me. The tapping of the button to get off the rails would still work too, so no functionality is lost as far as I'm aware, and that left index finger should pretty much always be free.
It's great to see the devs so involved, props to Batty and his team, I really respect the lengths they've gone to to keep us in the loop and happy. I would like to know what the game looked like when it was first announced, because I imagine after the backlash they rapidly went back and added a lot of vibrancy, wackiness and colour to the game. But maybe not and the trailer was just really deceiving!
I don't know, I'd rather the game always grinds and the gives me the option not to. I've always found it a bit hard to hit L2 at the right time to grind on the environment, to have to do that even more often would be a pain, for me at least. I think my solution would result in less button presses, having to only hit L2 for brief moments to skip over rails and whatnot, rather than adding complication and having to hold another button as well as potentially face buttons, R2 and the left stick.
Shockamoto
Neo Member
I missed out on the SSX series on PS2 but I loved SSX3 on Xbox. Now that I've played both versions of this demo I can't believe how much more natural the game feels on the dualshock. I'm not even sure why that it is.. to me it just feels right.
Can't wait until the 28th! Best demo in a looong time!
Can't wait until the 28th! Best demo in a looong time!
RoadHazard
Gold Member
About the 153 drops: Are those actually 153 different tracks, or are two different events on the same track counted as separate drops? Do we know this?
(I know many tracks come together and share the same bottom half, but that's not the point here.)
But you wouldn't exactly have to time the button press very accurately anyway. You'd just hold the button down to engage the grind mode, meaning you could to it long before you even get to what you want to grind.
The best solution would probably be to include options for these things. Just a simple "Auto-grind: On/Off" option for each of the grind types, and everyone could have it their way.
(I know many tracks come together and share the same bottom half, but that's not the point here.)
But you wouldn't exactly have to time the button press very accurately anyway. You'd just hold the button down to engage the grind mode, meaning you could to it long before you even get to what you want to grind.
The best solution would probably be to include options for these things. Just a simple "Auto-grind: On/Off" option for each of the grind types, and everyone could have it their way.
-bakalhau-
Member
Each drop has race it and trick it... So taking out the DDs, that leaves 142 drops. Divided by 2, there should be 71 tracks. Gosh. I really hope it's 71
The only one I know of (which has been stuck in my head for the last couple of days)
Is Houdini by Foster the People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEVa3jAaweE
Each drop has race it and trick it... So taking out the DDs, that leaves 142 drops. Divided by 2, there should be 71 tracks. Gosh. I really hope it's 71
so 142 tracks, since the 2 events in a same track drastically change the way you approach it.
With only 2 different tracks in the demo I've had so much fun trying out different paths and stuff
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Each drop has race it and trick it... So taking out the DDs, that leaves 142 drops. Divided by 2, there should be 71 tracks. Gosh. I really hope it's 71
Hmm, you're contradicting yourself. You're saying both of these two things:
1. A drop is a track with different events on it (this is what you're saying with your first sentence), meaning that the number of tracks is actually 153.
2. A drop is an event on a track also used by other drops (this is what you're saying with the rest of your post), which would make the number of tracks much lower .
It's gotta be either or, you can't have it both ways!