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[Baconsammy]

You can almost taste the tears of the people that were wishing and hoping for a stream of 6s and 7s.

 

[Lucius86]

Its not even about a "poor" score. Its more about trusted professionals not coming off as paid feverous zealots, chanting forth the will of the hype beast.

Yes, it all sounds really OTT. I don't disagree with you. But until you and I have played and completed the game, our opinions are of less worth and merit. We are going purely on expectations. They are going on....you know...actually having played the game.

 

[I'm an expert]

I thought they still were. I thought they were number one besides Bethesda (or Blizzard). The problem with Bioware is its employees easily get involved with internet drama and respond to trolling. Bethesda never bothered to address the NMA zealots.

What is the last CRPG they made?

 

[Jake Tower]

 

[Krabardaf]

I guess I'll give it a try, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be disappointed.
Reviews seems ridiculous tbh. The flaws visible in screens and videos alone should be enough to understand this is far from perfection.

 

[mjp2417]

Bioware have a strange, tangled relationship with some gamers on the internet, especially since Dragon Age 2.

Yeah I never fully realized this until the month leading up to this game's release (this is the only franchise of theirs I'm interested in). But some of the stuff I've seen in that time has been pretty eye-opening.

 

[Apophenia Overload]

What is the last CRPG they made?

...DA2? TOR?

 

[toddhunter]

Of course he's serious, and also right. It happens with every huge AAA game (remember "Oscar quality story"). Reviewers fall prey to the hype and take off their critic glasses to become raving fanboys using such ridiculous language that it's hard to believe they're talking about a video game and not a religious awakening.

Reviewers give high scores to generate hype and help grow and sustain the industry they feed off. Completely understandable.

It does mean you should never pay too much attention to AAA reviews for big games.
Not to say it isn't necessarily deserved in this case, but I would think it is pretty unlikely given the flaws in the previous titles and it is what it is.

Don't believe the reviews? Then try it for yourself. It can't be hard to formulate your own opinion can it?

No but it could be somewhat expensive.

 

[Lakitu]

Don't believe the reviews? Then try it for yourself. It can't be hard to formulate your own opinion can it?

 

[Baconsammy]

Of course he's serious, and also right. It happens with every huge AAA game (remember "Oscar quality story"). Reviewers fall prey to the hype and take off their critic glasses to become raving fanboys using such ridiculous language that it's hard to believe they're talking about a video game and not a religious awakening.

Of course he's not right, and neither are you. Are there examples of hyperbolic reviews? Sure. IGN's Uncharted 3 review is an example of it. Is UC3 still worthy of it's average 92 score? You bet your ass. And I say that having actually played the game. It generally helps me to form an informed opinion rather than just squeal incessantly that all the reviewers are wrong-headed.

 

[g.r.e.]

I guess we have to wait for the edge review for the glorious gaf meltdown.

 

[Shake Appeal]

The problem with Bioware is its employees easily get involved with internet drama and respond to trolling.

No, I'm pretty sure that's not it.

 

[Ledsen]

You can almost taste the tears of the people that were wishing and hoping for a stream of 6s and 7s.

But you can actually taste your fervent defense of a game you haven't played any more than we have. We're criticizing hyperbolic review language and lack of critical thinking, not the actual game.

 

[boundedseven]

Reviewers give high scores to generate hype and help grow and sustain the industry they feed off. Completely understandable.

It does mean you should never pay too much attention to AAA reviews for big games.
Not to say it isn't necessarily deserved in this case, but I would think it is pretty unlikely given the flaws in the previous titles and it is what it is.

And these high scores bring with it 'added benefits' in terms of ad revenues and travels to exotic locations where they get to play these so called games.

 

[I'm an expert]

...DA2? TOR?

Alright. Well this conversation ends here.

 

[Apophenia Overload]

No, I'm pretty sure that's not it.

What other companies have the kind of culture that BSN has? Blizzard doesn't get involved with troubles on their forums. David Gaider himself makes statements on BSN, sometimes in response to trolls, sometimes to get made fun of by trolls. I don't think other companies get involved in internet drama.

 

[Nibel]

You can almost taste the tears of the people that were wishing and hoping for a stream of 6s and 7s.

You posted almost more than anybody else into this thread. You are the one who acts sensible if any criticism is expressed by users. And as far as I read, most people are not big fans of those kind of hyperbolic reviews, even if the game is be good.

 

[Baconsammy]

Reviewers give high scores to generate hype and help grow and sustain the industry they feed off. Completely understandable.

It does mean you should never pay too much attention to AAA reviews for big games.
Not to say it isn't necessarily deserved in this case, but I would think it is pretty unlikely given the flaws in the previous titles and it is what it is.

If that were the case, we'd see a lot more undeserved scores for lower budget games, since the success of those is what would grow the industry. Not outrageously high scores for games that are going to sell boatloads regardless of score. Where was all this supposed hyperbole when the latest FF came out? Or did all the reviewers jump on a conference call and decide that they're not going to overhype that series anymore? It's actually easier to assume that perhaps reviewers really did like Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, Super Mario Land, etc etc. It doesnt always have to be a conspiracy.

 

[Fezan]

Hype rising.... but will be waiting for some gaf opinions...2nd one left a sour taste in my mouth !

 

[Green Yoshi]

GamersGlobal
9.5

 

[Apophenia Overload]

No one's saying it's a conspiracy but damn critics can act like worshipful sheep sometimes, worse than the masses they are supposed to guide.

 

[tzare]

i hope scores are fair an not due to usual bias from reviewrs. I hope ME3 combines the best of ME1 and ME2 and ends being the best of the 3 games. I will wait for a price drop though, as i don't have time to play. Bioware, release a Vita version

 

[Lakitu]

If that were the case, we'd see a lot more undeserved scores for lower budget games, since the success of those is what would grow the industry. Not outrageously high scores for games that are going to sell boatloads regardless of score. Where was all this supposed hyperbole when the latest FF came out? Or did all the reviewers jump on a conference call and decide that they're not going to overhype that series anymore? It's actually easier to assume that perhaps reviewers really did like Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, Super Mario Land, etc etc. It doesnt always have to be a conspiracy.

What Neogaf likes it to be: There are publisher review parties where free copies of the game are handed out, prostitutes, booze, fountains full of money and a shady looking guy in the corner watching them like a hawk.

 

[Baconsammy]

But you can actually taste your fervent defense of a game you haven't played any more than we have. We're criticizing hyperbolic review language and lack of critical thinking, not the actual game.

I'm defending the game? I haven't even played it yet. Unlike many here, I'm going to wait until I finish it before I review it. All I'm saying is that the hyperbolic reaction to hyperbolic reviews is just as useless and sad as the reviews they're chiding.

 

[captainnapalm]

You can almost taste the tears of the people that were wishing and hoping for a stream of 6s and 7s.

Yep, they gained a lot of haters post DA2, which certainly had its problems. Thing is, ME2 is a classic game. And before that, DA:O was fantastic. I'd be amazed if they drop the ball again, especially with this franchise.

 

[lucius]

So Syndicate is better than Mass Effect 3 going by Giant Bomba!

 

[derFeef]

So Syndicate is better than Mass Effect 3 going by Giant Bomba!

Sigh.

 

[Gravijah]

So Syndicate is better than Mass Effect 3 going by Giant Bomba!

please don't do that

 

[Imp the Dimp]

So Syndicate is better than Mass Effect 3 going by Giant Bomba!

no u didn't

 

[XANDER CAGE]

What Neogaf likes it to be: There are publisher review parties where free copies of the game are handed out, prostitutes, booze, fountains full of money and a shady looking guy in the corner watching them like a hawk.

Man I wish that's what it was like.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

The game's got "meta-bombed" on Metacritic, with over one hundred negative user reviews. Not that user reviews count for jack.

Very pleased to see a game I want to do well doing well, and a bit of eating of the crow by the Bioware Shaming Society never hurts.

 

[Moaradin]

The game's got "meta-bombed" on Metacritic, with over one hundred negative user reviews. Not that user reviews count for jack.

Very pleased to see a game I want to do well doing well, and a bit of eating of the crow by the Bioware Shaming Society never hurts.

Some people just can't accept Bioware making another good game. It truly hurts them inside.

 

[Randdalf]

Why do Metacritic even allow user reviews before the game's been released? Puzzle me this.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Some people just can't accept Bioware making another good game. It truly hurts them inside.

DOES NOT COMPUTE.

Lowest I've seen is an 8.5, which is still great. (Parties who think 8 is a bad score are fools)

 

[pringles]

;p

I love Bioware and the ME games. I'm just poking fun. But these reviews do seem pretty ridiculous. I haven't played the final game, yet, though... so I'll reserve real judgement until later this week.

Is that from the IGN review??

I'm glad the game is getting good reviews though. It honestly sounds like it will be a better game than 2, which is fine, even if it's not as good as 1. I've played ME2 a ton, it's an addictive game, and DLC did a decent job of fleshing it out. ME3 seems to improves on the customisation aspects, levelling system, gets rid of planet scanning, doesn't focus on stupid 'loyalty missions' and should actually have a satisfying ending. So while I take 9.5-10/10 scores with a big grain of salt, it probably will deserve around a 9, even if the writing is shitty and 80% of squad conversations centers around bad flirting to try and get them in bed.

 

[Brewster's Wallet]

So Syndicate is better than Mass Effect 3 going by Giant Bomba!

I thought you had to be 18 to register here?


Anyway, good to see the game is good. As always, your mileage may vary, but sounds like there's enough there to enjoy the game

 

[Lucius86]

So Syndicate is better than Mass Effect 3 going by Giant Bomba!

Thanks for tarnishing my name.

 

[dimb]

You can almost taste the tears of the people that were wishing and hoping for a stream of 6s and 7s.

It would have been nice for what looks like a rather poorly assembled AAA game to be called on its mistakes for once. Instead we got this:

As a trilogy, it is one of the most well-realized pieces of science fiction ever created.

 

[Moaradin]

Thanks for tarnishing my name.

=O

 

[Lakitu]

Thanks for tarnishing my name.

Be gone, troll!

 

[Lucius86]

Any idea when Bit-Tech are publishing their review? They are the guys I trust the most out of all this.

 

[UberTag]

Whether these scores are deserved or not from a clearly moneyhatted gambit is somewhat of a moot point. The game is probably pretty damn good and it's not like ME3 was ever going to get anything outside of the mid-90s.

People decrying Bioware can still take solace in the fact that it still fell short of the absurd GTAIV scores and that both Bioshock Infinite and Diablo III will give it a run for GOTY honors by the time this year wraps up.

 

[Broder Salsa]

So Syndicate is better than Mass Effect 3 going by Giant Bomba!

I demand Juff Gurstmunns head on a stick.

 

[Facism]

Don't believe the reviews? Then try it for yourself. It can't be hard to formulate your own opinion can it?

but then all you'd have is the demo, and well, that's not exactly the best demo in the world.

 

[Acquiescence]

This bothers me...

But Mass Effect 3’s greatest problem is its new multiplayer system. And it’s not the fact that it’s an amalgamation of Battlefield 3’s class system with Gears of War’s Horde mode, as I love both of those games’ multiplayer options. No, my problem lies in the fact that you’re pretty much forced into playing the multiplayer in order to unlock the best possible ending in the single-player mode. This aspect, called “Galaxy at War,” starts where the galaxy’s 50 percent ready to take on the Reaper threat as soon as you begin your single-player game. But instead of collecting more assets in single-player or completing side quests to improve on this number, you need to win multiplayer matches, which correlates to your armada readiness in single-player mode—this means players will be forced to play a mode they might not necessarily want to get into right away. Plus, there is no local split-screen options and a lot of times the best co-op multiplayers all allow you to have your buddy sitting right next to you while you play.

... which essentially means that I've got to pay for XBL in order to attain the game's best outcome. I'd have gotten the game for the PS3, but I wanted to carry over my import reviews from 1 and 2.

Dang it!

 

[Baconsammy]

It would have been nice for what looks like a rather poorly assembled AAA game to be called on its mistakes for once. Instead we got this:

Yes, you're right. They should have gone out of their way to hate the game, and the series, to satisfy the bloodlust of the perpetual haters.

 

[Moaradin]

This bothers me...



... which essentially means that I've got to pay for XBL in order to attain the game's best outcome. I'd have gotten the game for the PS3, but I wanted to carry over my import reviews from 1 and 2.

Dang it!

You can do MP OR SP. You can get a 100% completion by only doing SP. The fact that every MP Achievement also doubles as a SP Achievement makes it obvious.

 

[derFeef]

It would have been nice for what looks like a rather poorly assembled AAA game to be called on its mistakes for once. Instead we got this:

There are plenty of reviews that point out bad stuff, like the RPS one.

 

[Callibretto]

my hype for this game have been deflated by the demo, that coupled with other games coming out soon make me think to skip ME3 and wait for the complete edition

 

[captainnapalm]

Whatever your thoughts on the professional critics, they've at least played the game, as opposed to the butthurt idiots who are currently spamming the Metacritic user reviews.