Sentenza
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The Square Enix storytelling is fucking hilarious.That reminds me:
BioWare's writing is like the gaming version of Rizzoli and Isles.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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....then what's the fade?
What they cut, and what I thought was a very important part for the development of Kai Leng as a character and enemy was the scene where you saw him shred on his guitar when noone was around. It both characterized how badass and awesome Kai was while showing off his creative artistic side.
Bruce Lee Kicks
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Finally beat it so I can migrate to this thread now. When I saw Shep take that breath at the end:
What determines who exits the Normandy on the island?
What determines who exits the Normandy on the island?
He is literally the 'awesome button' from that Dragon Age 2 video. Hell, they could've even had Thane's Son instead. Working for Illusive Man because Cerberus are the only people willing to cure his father.
Shredding his guitar with biotics while combing his luscious mane.
The Xtortionist
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You can't be serious.
LumpOfCole
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I don't think Cerberus would trust an alien for anything. Kai Leng is simply supposed to represent Cerberus's potential strength being able to rival Shepard.
If Dietz saw Kai Leng's script in ME3 plus the way he taunted Shepard in the email like a true douchebro, I can actually see why he would write in that terrible cereal eating scene.
well that's the climax of the scene as he goes hands free and just starts combing with a few pelvic thrusts thrown in for good measure. Kai Leng knows what the ladies like, and the ladies like Kai Leng.
I'm perfectly capable of being serious.
The Xtortionist
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I'm pretty cautious man, this is BioWare we're talking about. I wouldn't put something like that past them. Especially because I never read the leaked stuff.
rollingstart
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So, that leaked script from a few months back. Any deviations from the final game?
Why would it need to be Earth 2? Earth doesn't get destroyed in any of the endings, does it? I guess it can't be Earth though, considering the scenery.
Hell, I'm still trying to figure out why Shepard is in prison/detained at the beginning of Mass Effect 3. I take down a reaper and destroy a collector base for you fuckers, and I get detained? What?
In Arrival you blew up a mass relay and it wiped out a bunch of Batarian colonies.
Dammit Bioware. Explain that in the opening got'damn cinematic if you don't detect that DLC pack on my system.
HarryHengst
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Im so going to laugh if Bioware really comes out and tells us the ending was simply Shepard hallucinating while on pain killers or whatever. I will buy all DLC for the game Bioware releases, because goddamn do i love a good troll like that.
I was really disappointing the game didnt start with Shepard on trial for his war crimes, and the shit hitting the fan during said trial.
The funny thing is they do mention it when you import a save that finished Arrival, but they say nothing if you haven't. Same with Shadow Broker. I imported a save without it, and Liara said she was an "information broker."
A little bit here and there. The ending discussed was the control ending, but the leak never went into detail after that.
PsychoSoldier
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So, just thought everyone in this thread might be interested that one of the Bioware writers who posts on another board that I frequent said that there were only two writers on the ending and that the rest of the writing team didn't vet it before it was implemented.
It actually makes sense given the way the ending goes.
It actually makes sense given the way the ending goes.
WTF? How the hell do you not have everyone involved in what should be the most important part of the story?
Inferno313
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I'm sorry, but I need to see a link and some proof before I believe that. There's no way that's possible.
That was a surprise to me as well. I knew Liara was involved in the Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC, but when she came out and said "Oh, yeah, I'm the Shadow Broker now" I was kind of floored. I went and read the wiki about the Shadow Broker and was kind of let down by how insignificant the whole thing turned out to be.
I guess. I really just dislike open ended conclusions to video games. They aren't master craftsmen who are imparting some Earth shattering artistic vision unto us, the likes of which we're going to carry with us the rest of our lives. Their job was to provide an ending that made at least a little bit of sense, and they failed.
Aren't they re-releasing that Deception book to fix the errors and complaints people had? If they are willing to that, I could easily see them releasing an ending DLC pack for $20 so players could finish the saga the way they wanted to.
ViewtifulJC
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MasterShotgun
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You can fight like a Krogan, run like a leopard, but you'll never be better than Commander Shepard.
Anyone else have a dirty idea during that? .. she was drunk too... Shepherd could have pulled it off.
HP_Wuvcraft
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The ending also makes a hell of a lot more sense if you get the scene where you talk to Liara about her Data Box that made in case the Reapers win.
Drunk Tali is the best Tali. Loved how she drunk dialed Javik too.
It really doesn't though, because they refer to her/him as "The Shepard" as if the story has been passed down through verbal lore.
ViewtifulJC
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HP_Wuvcraft
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Buzz Aldrin states that it's been a long time. My best guess is that it's like a gigantic galaxy-wide game of telephone. That's how legends and myths begin.
I have not idea if this true or not (without links is even harder to judge) but it certainly *feels* that way from the game. The first 99% of the game were very typical Bioware, with a cliche story but some nice dialogs, and a lot of fan service. The ending just feels so disconnected... completely different styles, going against the whole theme of Quarian/Geth conflict, introducing such gigantic plot holes, that really feels like it was decision from the top to take the franchise in a certain direction, without any regard for internal consistency.
Yeah, but they also talk like space travel is impossible. I'm not sure how the story would have gotten around the galaxy.
I'm making myself angry rewatching the ending on youtube. Who refers to anyone, anywhere, as "my sweet"? He sounds like a diddler.
Get drunk in the Citadel nightclub, and you wind up on the couch next to Aria T'Loak. No indication is given of how much time had passed, and I'm pretty sure my Shepard got ridden around the club like a bicycle before ending up on Aria's couch.
"The Cycle" might be a hundred thousand years of intergalactic peace before synthetics take over again. That's a whole lot of peace.
I like seeing blue the most.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Grandparents. He just didn't pull it off.
Aldrin is great actor. He did great on 30 Rock.
ViewtifulJC
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Did they really get Buzz Aldrin? That's funny
Because the Catalyst is a self-interested twat who says it would start again, but who says it has to? The Quarians and Geth could resolve their differences, so could future organics and synthetics. The only reason why this cycle started in the first place was because Sovereign got the heretic Geth all riled up into joining him. The Geth weren't interested in wiping out everyone.
Let organics forge their own destiny. It's too bad that EDI/Geth have to die, but it's better than taking the freewill of everyone away and merging them into synthetics.
I mean it's still a crappy ending, but that's the way you can rationalize it.
Well said.
Rodney McKay
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's an ending where Shepard lives?
Choose red space magic and if your war effort meter is high enough, Shepard lives.
I don't think the cycle will continue. Shepard literally just proved the Catalyst wrong not only by ending the Geth/Quarian war (one that was started by the stupidity of the Quarians and not by the Geth's desire for conflict) AND by forming a true friendship with EDI while bringing out human aspects in her character. Regardless of what the Catalyst says happens, the experience with my Shepard was completely the opposite. Also, who knows what would happen to both the organics and synthetics in the synthesis option. What if it rewrote their entire being? What if they forgot everything in their past? If any of those had a chance of happening, then what Shepard is doing would be no different than indoctrination or even outright murder.
Based on that logic, the destroy option allows organics to continue living unchanged and permanently eliminates the Reapers with the Geth/EDI/other AI being casualties.
Apophenia Overload
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Or at least his arm does.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Because it would negate the need for the Reapers, as well as give future generations the best shot at reinventing Mass Relay tech.
Taste the (space)Rainbow Magic!
Probably like Tali's sweat.
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