The Xtortionist
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*Shepard makes his choice*
*Cut to black, Shepard opens his eyes on Eden Prime*
Shepard: I know what we have to do.
MASS EFFECT 3
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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*Shepard makes his choice*
*Cut to black, Shepard opens his eyes on Eden Prime*
Shepard: I know what we have to do.
MASS EFFECT 3
Hero_of_the_Day
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No fucking way they do a post game DLC where it turns out the ending was a dream. There is zero chance. That shit would be too crazy for my brain to handle.
To be fair, lots of people were immediately angry with the ending without trying to rationalize it.
But yeah, you've got a point as well.
Yeah. When you find her in the Cerberus base you see her ass in plain sight :lol. There was a lot of fan service in the game. The discussion between James and Cortez about how the mako was hard to drive or how the hammerhead seemed like it was made of paper. All the joke about Garrus' calibrations every one says in the game. The joke about how Shepard was basically a psychologist on the ship and so on. At least they know how to make fun of themselves.
I'm rationally angry about them not showing the surviving races, and how civilization continued afterwards. Hell, even A Link To The Past had a credit roll showing how everyone in Hyrule was doing.
Still a bit pissed about Tali rage quitting life after I chose "let the Quarians and Geth co-exist peacefully" and the Quarians immediately got slaughtered also.
Technically, no. But you do get a glimpse of your corpse moving and breathing in a secret movie if you had a really high effective military score like 4000-5000 (not the total, the effective one) after the destroy the reapers ending.
CaptainCamerica
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So quick question, can you reject Miranda and still have her survive the bout with her father? I'm going through again and trying to romance Ashley but I want Miranda to live so I can get the War Assets.
Also, do you have to reject her the first time you meet or can you reject her in the apartment by saying "whats done is done"? Just curious of how that all goes down. The whole watching her face and crying when you reject the first time is a little...too real I guess, trying to avoid that.
Also, do you have to reject her the first time you meet or can you reject her in the apartment by saying "whats done is done"? Just curious of how that all goes down. The whole watching her face and crying when you reject the first time is a little...too real I guess, trying to avoid that.
Well, that makes sense. The ending is awful. The attempts to try and suggest that it's a hallucination, dream or actually quite deep and that we're not getting it are just natural parts of the grieving cycle.
So which ending should I choose. What's the good ending?
In order for Miranda to survive you must do her event where she contacts you at your Spectre Terminal on the Citadel. Shepard will tell her about Kail Leng. If you don't do this she'll get murdered by him. The romance has nothing to do with it I guess. She wasn't my romance and she survived.
All of the 3 endings play the same movie but with a different colored explosion :lol and there's no epilogue so you can't really see what happens anyway after everything blow up. You'll see. Simply reload your save and you'll see what i mean.
EmCeeGramr
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Best alternate ending idea I've heard yet: reach the highest score possible and when you arrive in the Citadel at the end, Blasto is there, having annihilated ILM, Harbinger, and the Catalyst, destroying the Reapers with no negative repercussions. He and his elcor sidekick give Shepard a pity smirk (or the luminescent equivalent thereof) before blasting off for more adventures.
ape2man
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I hope, the ending is a dream and he is still alive in londen and failing in his mission. I hope the crucible was nothing more than a reaper plot.
WORST ENDING EVER.
But what i think. In the last part he was being indoctrinated.
I was only given the choice of two endings, despite doing every last side quest ;_; I had every fleet except the Quarians as well.
What do you want from me Bioware? I even went around scanning planets for all the artifacts -_-
There's obviously different consequences for each ending (based on what the child says). It isn't just a different color.
You need 3000 EMS to get the space magic ending where you throw yourself into that energy beam on the crucible and it magically merge organic and synthetic life together for some reason. Everyone becomes a cyborg! And the only change in the ending is that the explosion is green and Joker eyes glow green when he gets off the ship.
Yup but you don't see that nor the game tell you about what happened after. So you don't really see the consequences of your choice. It's simply the same movie with a different colored blast.
The Xtortionist
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"Badassfully, what took you so long."
Sweet, I'm reaper Shepard now. Can't wait to get my harvest on in 50,000 years. Suckers
I don't really mind the ending, the last scene with the crew was pretty corny but so was a good chunk of the game.
Ready for Blasto 6: Partners in Crime DLC.
Edit: Alright, just saw the Stargazer and Child scene after the credits. Next week on Nova, the legend of the Shepard.
I don't really mind the ending, the last scene with the crew was pretty corny but so was a good chunk of the game.
Ready for Blasto 6: Partners in Crime DLC.
Edit: Alright, just saw the Stargazer and Child scene after the credits. Next week on Nova, the legend of the Shepard.
state-of-the-art
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I'm not a big fan of DLC, but dammit I'd buy that shit.
Googling, I was supposed to do some co-op missions to bump that score up. I guess acting as a galactic errand boy for every tom dick and jane on the citadel wasn't enough.
The one and only huge fleet I didn't really pick up was the Salarians, because I pissed the Dalatrass off. Assuming that their full strength was less than the Turians, I still wouldn't have hit 3000 =/
Probably. Maybe you made the wrong choices in 2/1 and didn't get the assets for those? I did everything and I had 3500 without playing the MP.
state-of-the-art
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"This one humbly suggests that the great commander Shepard accumulate his excrement."
I can't remember a single instance (other than when the Quarians got wiped out) where I lost a sizable fleet, or failed to pick one up.
MrTroubleMaker
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Perfect Cha0s
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When I heard people going on about how awful the ending was, I honestly started thinking this might be true.
The Xtortionist
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All this dream talk...it's Final Fantasy 8 all over again.
Well the Quarians are worth like 700+ in the war assets terminal in my game. If you failed to get the salarians that would explain it.
As for the decision, On top of my head :
Saving the council in ME 1 -> Destiny Ascension war assets + 100
Saving the Rachni Queen in ME 1 and freeing her in ME 3 -> War assets + 100 and she won't betray you. If you killed her in 1, her clone in 3 can be recruted but will betray you
All of the ME2 main characters are at least worth 25 each if you do their quests
Darkmakaimura
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Besides any possible upcoming DLC, it almost seems Bioware is just calling it quits with the franchise. The endings seem to indicate that. Sure, they're telling you to hold on to your ME3 saves for a few future DLC but I seriously doubt they are going to change the ending. I doubt most developers would put themselves into that position. Too much pride. And besides that, it would probably just piss off people a lot more.
It is amazing that all of us are unanimously agreeing with the endings. I love Bioware, Mass Effect is my favorite sci-fi series and probably the best new IP this gen but oh man, even I am disappointed with the way it ends. I think I'm more insulted by the Reapers motives than I am with the Debbie Downer finale. I really wanted them to be sinister, Lovecraftian machines, not something that feels like they're on a mission to "help" us.
The more I think about the ending...the more....
Why would the crucible keep a weapon around that could destroy itself and the reapers? What sense does this make?
The Geth were over 700 as well. If there is a way to keep both the Geth and the Quarians alive, that explains it. If there isn't, my only real deficit is the lack of a fully outfitted Salarian fleet, which shouldn't be enough points to explain the difference (I got maybe...mmm...200 points for the Salarian spec-ops).
Oh well. I'll edit my save a bit and get the good ending later.
If you don't min/max either Paragon or Renegade, this will happen.
Why would the crucible keep a weapon around that could destroy itself and the reapers? What sense does this make?
The Geth were over 700 as well. If there is a way to keep both the Geth and the Quarians alive, that explains it. If there isn't, my only real deficit is the lack of a fully outfitted Salarian fleet, which shouldn't be enough points to explain the difference (I got maybe...mmm...200 points for the Salarian spec-ops).
Oh well. I'll edit my save a bit and get the good ending later.
If you don't min/max either Paragon or Renegade, this will happen.
So the mass effect relays were destroyed even though I picked the destroy the reapers option? I really didn't think the ending could be this bad. The whole synthetics always trying to kill organics plot is just stupid. Even more so when I just brought peace to a war between synthetics and organics that was started by the organics. And did it just give me an unchooseable dialogue choice? The last one with TIM. I would a preferred a generic happy or sad ending to this. Now I no longer have any interest in this universe.
Yes you can keep both of them alive. They then share Rannoch with the Quarians and you get both fleets. To save them you must have done the 2 others missions on Rannoch before doing the Reaper's base on Rannoch. Tali and Legion must be alive and you must have solved their fight in ME2 by using the paragon/renegade line and Tali must not be exiled.
You simply select the paragon/renegade choice after you choose to upload the data.
Man...that's a lot of things that need to go right for that to be an option. Who knew that Tali getting exiled in ME2 would keep me from getting the secret ending in ME3? =/
Well, that, and no one telling me that I needed to do the unnecessary, unwanted co-op missions.
ape2man
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" I really want to know why bioware thought it was a good idea", new SHIT writer?
With the right choices it's possible to get every races to help you.
The choices that mattered :
-You must have kept Maelon's data in ME2. It's required to cure the genophage.
-The salarians will hate you at first but saving their council member during the citadel attack will grant you their support. I think you need Thane for this as he was important during that part in my game.
-If you want to keep Tali alive and make a truce between the geth and quarians you needed the choices we talked about above.
<--Destroyed Maleon's Data and cured the genophage in ME3.
Empty Space
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you need the data only to keep Eve the female Krogan alive. Mordin will be able to cure it regardless.
You don't need to solve the Tali-Legion confrontation in ME2. I didn't have enough points to solve it and got the peace ending just fine.
Apophenia Overload
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You know, saying the ending is all a dream and calling into question the ending sequence's reliability actually gives this a lot of depth and makes it intriguing in an Inception sort of way.
What about this. What if there's supposed to be two trilogies. Mass Effect 1-3 is about the rise, re-birth, and death of a great hero. It ends with him becoming consumed by ultimate evil.
Shepard becomes the villain of the next trilogy. Mass Effect is Star Wars.
What about this. What if there's supposed to be two trilogies. Mass Effect 1-3 is about the rise, re-birth, and death of a great hero. It ends with him becoming consumed by ultimate evil.
Shepard becomes the villain of the next trilogy. Mass Effect is Star Wars.
I destroyed Maelon's data, and still cured the Genophage (Mordin has the capability). I also saved the Salarian council member.
If you managed to keep the Quarians and the Geth, that explains how your score was so high. What I'm trying to figure out is what other possible way someone could have gotten over 3k without co-op, because I'm coming up blank.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Eh...no.
BioWare basically pulled the same thing when they did Dragon Age 2 and the framed narrative there. Technically, they could just say that entire game was a made up story by Varric. All that kind of thing does is give them carte blanche to retcon whatever they want.
I'm just sick of BioWare suddenly thinking they're master storytellers, trying to wave their hands around thinking they're smarter than they actually are when it comes to the narrative in games. BioWare plots and narratives are generally pretty weak. Their writing is usually praised for the characters and dialogue, not the overall stories or plots.
That reminds me:
BioWare's writing is like the gaming version of Rizzoli and Isles.
mercenar1e
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i have read that the moon scene takes place 10,000 years after commander Shepard's victory.. any truth to it?
I agree. His character serves absolutely no purpose that Thane couldn't have served better. He exists only to be the unbeatable guy from the Thessia mission.
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