Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I asked that same question pages & pages ago
Hypertrooper
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I like how you get side quest, you can't do because the planet isn't unlock. I like how the game doesn't tell in which galaxy the planet xy is.
Mine all lived and the wall still had a ton of names. Remember that a bunch of crew members die in the initial collector attack at the beginning of ME2.
Most of those are people who died at the beginning of ME2.
Technically you could meet the father in ME2. At least I'm pretty sure it was the same bartender. My character didn't meet the bartender in illium in ME2 but they sounded the same to me.
Last Hearth
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Yeah it has everyone who died, including Pressley, Jenkins, etc. And if Thane or Mordin or anyone else dies in the game they will show up on the wall too.
Psychoward
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hi-five?
Zomba13
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Ah good good. I assumed it was the deaths from the original Normandy (with Presley among them) but got a bit worried as it wasn't made clear when they died. I assume it'd be pretty much full if the crew died at the end of ME2.
The first time you see James he's exercising and sharing sexual innuendos with Cortez. He gives you an affectionate nickname. You can invite him to your cabin and automatically come onto him. Late in the game, he's shirtless getting a tattoo. And he's voiced by Freddie Prinze Jr.
Not making him a bona fide romance option for gay Shep is practically a fate worse than Reapers.
Well, some of us just have low standards.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
No....
Karak
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A cycle of pain...horrible pain.
LumpOfCole
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We need a ghost kid to break the cycle and turn us into Internet-Human hybrids
Oh so I didn't get the option in ME3 because I did it in ME2. Makes sense.
*green explosion*
Apophenia Overload
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Hah! I knew it! Did I not ask:
So I guess there was no phone after all. Grandpa Buzz Stargazer was just making up what happened in the Citadel, so the Catalyst conversation and the choices are not canon.
Yes, you're right. It's her. I'm pretty sure you find out that she's Liara's father in the Shadow Broker DLC, as well.
It's eternal. Forever repeating just like the Reaper's cycle...only in shorter time span.
So I allowed the Geth to upgrade but couldn't stop the Quarians dying and I missed Tali's suicide Paragon option.
After beating the game though why did I bother doing that in retrospect if all I was going to do was kill the Geth along with the Reapers. Kind of disappointing in hindsight.
After beating the game though why did I bother doing that in retrospect if all I was going to do was kill the Geth along with the Reapers. Kind of disappointing in hindsight.
I didn't think he was gay. I thought he was there to attract the dudebro population. :|
dragonelite
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Should be really easy make the player choose sexual orientation at the start.
No need for uncomfortable confrontation.
Kinda like with Cortez i knew he was gay no problems with that. But yeah some paragon choices i was afraid this could spawn some male on male cut scene i rather avoid if i can not really comfortable with that kind of stuff.
hope this doesn't come over as homophobic.
Who are gayyyyyyy~
Okay, they aren't. But they're very homoerotic, which means Vega gave off "gay" vibes to people
You know what I meant. >:|
I did the exact same thing. I wanted to be extremely nice to the guy because he was clearly hurting but every paragon thing that came up I was worried it'd force my shepard to be gay. But even without hitting any of the prompts I still felt like I was pretty nice and supportive to him.
Lifejumper
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Uhmmm...Where was Harbinger? I guess the rumors of his voice actor not returning was true lolz
What's worse: Vega not pounding BroShep, or FemShep not being allowed to go down on Miranda?
Wasn't Harbinger the last Reaper shown near the Citadel, with the glowing yellow eye things? I could be wrong.
Wasn't Harbinger the last Reaper shown near the Citadel, with the glowing yellow eye things? I could be wrong.
I don't see how the paragon option has to be picked in every sequece. It's not like you get extra points if you do that.
Wasn't it like:
A) Why can't I be eye candy?
B) I'm into the ladies.
No, not really. LOCO.
And even if you hit the choices, you can always friend zone everyone before you start any relationship.
The Librarian
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Honestly, even if we get a new ending through DLC, that still wouldn't fix all the problems with the story. The Crucible is a huge cop-out, and I can't figure out how it was hidden from the Reapers for thousands of years while organics were able to find it.
Zomba13
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Yup. As long as you don't flirt with him he won't come on to you.
Karak
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It really is. I mean...I have so rarely had an ending impact me this negatively. It wasn't that they decided to do something different...it was the sheer level of pure fuckery and fucking fuck-a-filling throughout it that boggles my mind.
I simply can't fathom any dev wanting to unload a hot steaming pile of fuck onto someone's plate for no reason. It is mind boggling. If you got a room and put 50 random people inside it and told them these ideas for an ending at the very least, one of them would sheepishly raise his hand and say, "With all due respect...what the fuck are you thinking?" And that person could be blind, deaf and write and read only brail Spanish and they would still raise their hand!
Apophenia Overload
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I think the Crucible was a dumb last minute ass-pull but it failed so it balances out the contrivance.
Foliorum Viridum
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You can't unsee it because it's true :lol
Haha, it looks so weird.
I actually had no idea that she would suicide until I looked at threads. The cutscene with the Quarians getting destroyed and her falling off that cliff is totally different than what I got. Man. It's hard to see her like that.
I think I realized why I'm not as distressed as most people about the ending.
You never played DA2, right?
Tbh I think the prospect of awakening vega's sexuality while he stammers and tries to act all dudebro and manly while denying it all the way to the bed is pretty enticing. And by enticing I mean hilarious.
Hypertrooper
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He was. But the Harbinger should have been the antagonist of the game or it was teased. But Mass Effect 2 gave us the Human Reaper which didn't have a really purpose either.
Wasn't the catalyst controlling the Reapers? Makes sense that it would keep that information away from them.
The real question is why build the crucible at all if your plan is for the Reapers to cull organics forever.
dragonelite
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Queue in cheesy scenario i just wanted to be a supportive friend not a fling after he got the wrong intention.
The SWTOR team did the exact same thing, except it wasn't so small that you couldn't see it unless it was zoomed in.You can't unsee it because it's true :lol
You don't need to worry about any dialogue choice with Cortez save for when you meet for a drink in purgatory and he makes a comment on all the eye candy and you either agree or say the girls on the platforms are good enough for you. it's pretty blatant what the situation is seeing up but it's not some overt advance on the oat of Cortez. They did a good job with it I feel. If I hadn't known he was the gay LI I don't think I would have realized he was romanceable, just gay and depressed.
I guess you haven't played Final Fantasy XIII-2?
The problem is my Shep is gay but batting for Kaidan. As a result, I've been going out of my way avoiding comforting Cortez too for fear of him confusing it as Shepard coming on to him. So would that drink in purgatory causes Cortez to think that my Shep is into him? There has to be a better way for team mate not to confuse your friendship as gesture of love.
Hypertrooper
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Why does it make sense? He was behind the whole idea to destroy every intelligent organic life every 50,000years.
Apophenia Overload
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See they could've totally subverted expectations and criticism for adding a Gears of War meathead space marine if they had made him actually gay and romanceable and done it in a tasteful way. And it would piss off CoD players, and be hilarious.
The crucible didn't fail. The little space magic kid tell you that the crucible changed HIM so you now have the 3 options :lol. I'm supposed to believe all these races were able to build a magical weapon that would modify the citadel and some master AI they had no idea existed. It's also implied many races didn't even know that they needed a catalyst as it's missing from the blueprints. How did they build this again?
Was it really cheesy? I think he said that's cool, and the tree ends.
Last Hearth
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I think I realized why I'm not as distressed as most people about the ending.
You never played DA2, right?
DA2 was a masterpiece compared to the last 5 minutes of ME3.
There's a lot of shit about the Mass Effect universe that doesn't make sense, so the macguffin that was the Crucible didn't bother me. It's always been cheesy, stupid SF, and I was fine with that so long as the characters were there.
This ending is just all kinds of bad, though. You know it's bad when people would take 'it was a dream' end over it. I can't think of a worse ending right now. Not even MGS4.
It makes Bioware sense. If an advanced AI is going to create the weapon of it's own destruction/control, why tell the Reapers about it?
It obviously makes no fucking sense.
Freeza Under The Shower
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The point where you have to choose with Cortez is quite clear: at the bar, where he invites you for a drink, you can either state that you are "good-looking too" or "looking at the ladies", but nothing else. I don't like being forced to state sexual preference when it isn't the issue. Boning your crew is simply not something most captains would do.
I realize this shit has to come up at some point, but after that choice cortex won't be 'talkable' any more, which I think is the equivalent of "have sex with them or they won't talk to you anymore". It's design choice, obviously (dialogue does not return), but it feels 'off', as far as I'm concerned.
That said, my game of chess was just chess, because I chose Liara's 'us' from the start.
but since it was mentioned earlier: does that dialogue come up regardless of ME1 actions?
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