Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
If you don't like Ringo (which is a sign of poor taste, but whatever), you're not going to like the first half of Penguin Drum when it's practically her show.
Her arc and focus is kind of done by episode 8 though.
 

Articalys

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Daily Lives of High School Boys 10

I didn't really think this episode was that funny outside of maybe a couple segments. I attribute this to an extreme lack of the student council and Ringo compared to the previous episode.
 

iavi

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I just finished reading the ending to the FMP novels and wow it really needs to get a animu adaptation. The rest of the material after Second Raid is amazing. So many insane things happen that have a high chance of causing shit storms. If it does not happen at least I have Sigma.

Past TSR, I've only read most (I think--all that was translated at the time) of A Dancing Very Merry Christmas, and yeah, that was fun. But I've about given up hope on any more anime FMP. Kyoani doesn't do blood anymore.
 

Cloudy

Banned
Here's my theory on who the extra student is:

It's the countermeasures girl. She died when she bumped her head on the floor in the flashback scene in ep 10
 

Lafiel

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Past TSR, I've only read most (I think, all that was translated at the time) of A Dancing Very Merry Christmas, and yeah, that was fun. But I've about given up hope on any more anime FMP. Kyoani doesn't do blood anymore.
I think A Dancing Very Merry Christmas is the last FMP book I genuinely liked, past that it gets a bit to srs-business / cliche mecha shit for me. That said, if kyoani ever made a S3 I'd be on-board for sure, since they are very likely to elevate the material the same way they did with K-ON!
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
He actually expected 60k or something crazy like that; then again, this is just first week...

It's still pretty high up, and who knows? It might make it to 60 after all.

Anyhoo.

Papa no Iu Koto wo Kikinasai:

I was gonna drop this show, but I continue for one particular reason.

This
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and this

She's totally weird but in an amusing way. Plus, she's hot. And not a loli. Two gold stars right there.
 

/XX/

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which reminded me of the Paradise Kiss ED
An expert on style, that man. His rendition of Breathless was amazingly well done
and it can be considered out-of-place as well
:

Hanamaru Youchien: ED 07 x Osamu Kobayashi - News - Manganimation.net, reviews, news, manga & anime
http://www.manganimation.net/news/2010/03/hanamaru-youchien-ed-07-x-osamu-kobayashi

Some people (like Satie) just aren't meant to branch out of what they're good at, and i'd agree, his larger works and later stuff just isn't as good as where he started. I liked that he started out composing like a rebel though to go against the trends. Maybe losing that rebellious streak made that happen.
You could say obscure medievalist friends and rosicrucian inspiration were his best accompaniment...
 

Thoraxes

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It's still pretty high up, and who knows? It might make it to 60 after all.

Anyhoo.

Papa no Iu Koto wo Kikinasai:

I was gonna drop this show, but I continue for one particular reason.

She's totally weird but in an amusing way. Plus, she's hot. And not a loli. Two gold stars right there.

You mean not everyone is watching it for things like this?

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prwxv3

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Past TSR, I've only read most (I think--all that was translated at the time) of A Dancing Very Merry Christmas, and yeah, that was fun. But I've about given up hope on any more anime FMP. Kyoani doesn't do blood anymore.

Yea the rest of the material is pretty dark and gruesome at some points
Nami's death was horrible
. But many of the best parts of the rest of the material could be so much more moving if it was adapted correctly.
The death of Souske's mother and Nami, when you find out Kalinin betrayed Mithril, and the illusion of Chidori killing Tessa and Souske, and many more

Novel Spoilers
The moment where Chidori rejects the perfect peaceful fake world because the Souske of the fake world is not the man she fell in love with could also me amazing if adapted correctly
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I didn't know 3 year olds had the tact or the muscle control to chew with their mouths closed.
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
If you don't like Ringo (which is a sign of poor taste, but whatever), you're not going to like the first half of Penguin Drum when it's practically her show.

She has her moments and potential, but she annoys me so much with that whole Tabuki/fate thing. If she gets over that at some point, I'll probably start liking her.

Mawaru-Penguindrum 6

Ok, the craziness and the awesomeness are back in. Perfect timing.

 

prwxv3

Member
Kemonozume 7

This show gives an uncommon amount of leeway to different directors and animators in how they realize their episodes. This one is no exception, as we get one of Osamu Kobayashi's trademark solo episodes, also present in TTGL and Dantalian. An early tipoff is this magazine cover:

2GoGQ.jpg


which reminded me of the Paradise Kiss ED.

Kobayashi is known for directing episodes that feel out-of-place in the series as a whole, and even though Kemonozume is less uniform than most shows, that is still the case here. Kobayashi's jerky animation style (such as the distinctive way he animates lipflaps) and his reliance on very tight closeups makes the characters look static and the environments feel clostrophoic, even when the setting is supposedly open. The treatment of sexuality is more like the typical anime awkwardness and creepiness than the maturity the series has shown so far: Rei's breasts in one scene had a distinct Gainax bounce, and later on there was a breast size argument that could have come out of your average harem show. This isn't only the fault of the direction, but is also the fault of the script, which feels disjointed overall and bungles the chemistry between the characters. The scriptwriter has written a couple episodes already which were perfectly fine, so I'm not sure what went wrong. All in all, not my favorite episode.

There were some nice developments of the overall plot:
signs that Kazuma's Flesh Eater heritage is catching up with him, and a callback to the tracer Rei put on Toshihiko's jacket in episode 2
.

I dont remember if the amazing chair scene is before or after this episode.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Kemonozume 7

This show gives an uncommon amount of leeway to different directors and animators in how they realize their episodes. This one is no exception, as we get one of Osamu Kobayashi's trademark solo episodes, also present in TTGL and Dantalian. An early tipoff is this magazine cover:

2GoGQ.jpg


which reminded me of the Paradise Kiss ED.
But that ED is all Imaishi, iirc.

PS - ep10 of Kemonozume = written/storyboarded/directed by Kenji Nakamura
 

prwxv3

Member
I think A Dancing Very Merry Christmas is the last FMP book I genuinely liked, past that it gets a bit to srs-business / cliche mecha shit for me. That said, if kyoani ever made a S3 I'd be on-board for sure, since they are very likely to elevate the material the same way they did with K-ON!

I actually like the material after the second raid more for some reason.
 
I dont remember if the amazing chair scene is before or after this episode.

You're probably thinking of the amazingly hilarious slapstick sequence
with the paralyzed Toshihiko
in episode 6. Between that and the monkey training, it was a comedic goldmine.

But that ED is all Imaishi, iirc.

To clarify, the Kemonozume shot is similar to the magazine covers in that ED, not the animated parts. While I see that Imaishi did key animation, I doubt he drew those covers since they don't particularly seem his style.

PS - ep10 of Kemonozume = written/storyboarded/directed by Kenji Nakamura

I know. Speaking of Nakamura and Yuasa, while watching Mind Game I noticed several stylistic quirks that the younger director must have been influenced by when working on Trapeze, and not just the mixing in of live action characters.
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
Sailor Moon 9
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Usagi uses the superior under-wrist method of wearing her watch.

For once, the youma did not brainwash everyone! Rather, everyone's time was stolen, with disastrous effects, like how terribly deformed Usagi becomes. Oh, and the guy getting strangled too.


After charging straight into the enemy's den, Sailor Mercury manages to pinpoint the youma's location with her goggles and Nintendo DS.


Of course, Tuxedo Mask had to make an appearance. His mask does a marvelous job of hiding his true identity, I have no idea of who it could be.



Is this the first time there's been actual blood in Sailor Moon?

Despite being so whiny, I don't dislike Usagi at all. Whiny characters can slip so easily into being incredibly annoying, but so far, Usagi has avoided the pitfalls that await her character type. Usagi > Shinji, clearly.


Also, next episode, this mysterious character shows up! Just two episodes after Ami, even though Ami took 8 episodes to appear.

 

Risette

A Good Citizen
True (along with Mr. Yoshigaki), although not all. hosannainexcelsis is referring to the specific part that is Mr. Kobayashi's work, magazine covers and all that...
I see, I thought the ED was Imaishi solo.
I know. Speaking of Nakamura and Yuasa, while watching Mind Game I noticed several stylistic quirks that the younger director must have been influenced by when working on Trapeze, and not just the mixing in of live action characters.
I'm interested to know. Mind Game made me too angry to notice anything.
 

trejo

Member
Saint Seiya the Hades Chapter: Elysion

It's your typical Saint Seiya arc but on speed. There's no time to dwell on anything so it limits itself to hitting all the usual points on the Saint Seiya checklist at a breakneck speed. And of course it just wouldn't be the same without the insane amounts of cost cutting and repetitive low budget animation so those are all there for good measure.

Still, as a Saint Seiya nostalgia whore I am somewhat honor-bound to like this. Wouldn't really recommend it to anyone else.
 
I'm interested to know. Mind Game made me too angry to notice anything.

I would need to watch both works again to do a proper analysis, but the way physical space was used to metaphorically express character relationships (such as separating Nishi at the bar from Myon and her boyfriend), the sharp-edged editing, the quirky and occasionally collage-like nature of the visual style and layouts, even the character animation at times reminded me of Trapeze. Yuasa was much more flamboyant with everything, of course.


Somebody post the gif.
 

Cwarrior

Member
Mawaru-Penguindrum 2-5

The positive impression I got from the first episode is beginning to fade out.

I still love the presentation and the Kouba/Shouma duo, but it feels like we're going nowhere and OH MY GOD that Ringo girl is so fucking annoying.

Episode 4 with all those fairy tale-like segments had me cringing all over the place.

Be cautious when approaching gaf hyped shows this one is a bad show that’s ridiculously badly directed, written and animated, that fails at creating any moving drama scenes and making you care for any these flat annoying broken record like characters :)

A good show.

There's no reason to be aggressive.

hey am just trying to warn you there buddy :p

I don't blame you, looks like your another to fall victim to animugaf hype.
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
What did you expect? It’s bad show that’s ridiculously badly directed, written and animated, that fails at creating any moving drama scenes and making you care for any these flat annoying broken record like characters.

A good show.

There's no reason to be aggressive.
 

prwxv3

Member
Is there anone else that does not like Madoka is that amazing. Its good but not particularly amazing in my view. Though Saft need to start making more original animu like Madoka instead of ruining good material.
 

ponpo

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Putting a hold on attempting to watch Xam'd to watch Lagrange. Doesn't seem that great, but those outfits... Along the line of Sky Girls and Senko no Ronde. Instant interest.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Is there anone else that does not like Madoka is that amazing. Its good but not particularly amazing in my view. Though Saft need to start making more original animu like Madoka instead of ruining good material.
It's no good. Only ep10 is worth mentioning.
 
Saint Seiya the Hades Chapter: Elysion

It's your typical Saint Seiya arc but on speed. There's no time to dwell on anything so it limits itself to hitting all the usual points on the Saint Seiya checklist at a breakneck speed. And of course it just wouldn't be the same without the insane amounts of cost cutting and repetitive low budget animation so those are all there for good measure.

Still, as a Saint Seiya nostalgia whore I am somewhat honor-bound to like this. Wouldn't really recommend it to anyone else.

At least Hypnos and Thanatos are cool.

I hope you're watching Lost Canvas next.
 
Putting a hold on attempting to watch Xam'd to watch Lagrange. Doesn't seem that great, but those outfits... Along the line of Sky Girls and Senko no Ronde. Instant interest.
It's been mediocre at best thus far, but it looks like it's gearing up for something of actual substance in the coming weeks. Cross your fingers.
 

prwxv3

Member
Putting a hold on attempting to watch Xam'd to watch Lagrange. Doesn't seem that great, but those outfits... Along the line of Sky Girls and Senko no Ronde. Instant interest.

I thought Xam'd I pretty good but I would have been much better if they made it longer. I hope to god that Eureka AO is longer then 12 episodes. With bones I feel their shows are much better when they are dragged out then rushed.
 
I thought Xam'd I pretty good but I would have been much better if they made it longer. I hope to god that Eureka AO is longer then 12 episodes. With bones I feel their shows are much better when they are dragged out then rushed.
So you actually liked the pacing of Eureka Seven?
 

zeroshiki

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your close to correct 19.5 if im right.

This isnt one of my "conspericy" statments just a very fucked up obeveration - i have some reason to assertain that the folks who brought on the economic situations back in the 1990's in Japan - i believe most of bankers offspring are Otaku and they are the ones who are keeping the business alive. Its very scary to think about. Could also explain why there is a such a diffrence between the blue-collar youth that tend to be more western looking and the Otaku who have created a meme of disliking them - because the former are poor.

???

Bankers? You think only rich people are otaku? What?
 
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