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[Rebel Leader]

All endings! Indoctrination!

We all remember the game.... wait....we all remember the samething....since indoc may be different for each person....this explains why I don't remember the events that happen on the DLC arrival

SON OF A -

DAMN IT

 

[FHIZ]

The cycle never ends. Watch the Reapers be back in ME4 in the distant future.

 

[fabricated backlash]

Ok after ME2 i wanted to stay away from the ME franchise as a whole. I felt that ME2 really sullied the franchise for me and undid many of the things I liked about ME1.... then I watched the ending to ME3 at a friends place...

I feel sad. I mean genuinely sad. I know Nerd problems and all, but I can't even be angry about it anymore. I'm simply sad that a franchise I held dearly, one that started out with so much promise did end like this. It's basically like Matrix 2 and 3. It got better on the technical level, but worse in pretty much everything else, and the ending in both cases was simply a letdown of epic proportions.

 

[Sojgat]

Bioware was always going to support this game with a ton of DLC, look how long the tail was on ME2. I now feel pretty stupid for not seeing this right away. "Shepard has become a legend" buy our DLC screen at the end also becomes quite meta.

 

[Derrick01]

The cycle never ends. Watch the Reapers be back in ME4 in the distant future.

Shepard is Sin Harbinger?

 

[Patryn]

Ok after ME2 i wanted to stay away from the ME franchise as a whole. I felt that ME2 really sullied the franchise for me and undid many of the things I liked about ME1.... then I watched the ending to ME3 at a friends place...

I feel sad. I mean genuinely sad. I know Nerd problems and all, but I can't even be angry about it anymore. I'm simply sad that a franchise I held dearly, one that started out with so much promise did end like this. It's basically like Matrix 2 and 3. It got better on the technical level, but worse in pretty much everything else, and the ending in both cases was simply a letdown of epic proportions.

Play ME3. Don't judge it solely on the ending.

99 percent of the game is great.

 

[Moaradin]

Ok after ME2 i wanted to stay away from the ME franchise as a whole. I felt that ME2 really sullied the franchise for me and undid many of the things I liked about ME1.... then I watched the ending to ME3 at a friends place...

I feel sad. I mean genuinely sad. I know Nerd problems and all, but I can't even be angry about it anymore. I'm simply sad that a franchise I held dearly, one that started out with so much promise did end like this. It's basically like Matrix 2 and 3. It got better on the technical level, but worse in pretty much everything else, and the ending in both cases was simply a letdown of epic proportions.

99% of the game before the ending is better than ME1 and ME2 so the Matrix example doesn't work.

 

[Lonestar]

When I think of honest to god good ending for trilogies, I can only think of very few of them. LotR was one of the best. And the original Star Wars was good. Can't think of many of them. Matrix screwed it up, Godfather 3 wass lame.

And there are many book trilogies that were not designed as trilogy from the inception. The authors just kept writing and writing and write one or two many books (hello Frank Herbert). Ok both Toy Story and Indy trilogies are very good now that I think about it. But the last movies were much less ambitous than LotR. All they tired to do was make a good movie in the tradition of the series. This is all BioWare has to do, make a honest to god good game in the spirit of the Mass Effect series. They had to fucked it up with a mind fuck ending and try to wrap everything up in 5 minutes.

I was OK with the endings when I saw it yesterday. But the more I think about it the more I think it live up to the 'bad ending" hype. I now think it's worse than Dance with the Dragons and the end of Dark Tower series. They kill off all the millions of people on Citadel? That really leave a bad taste in my mouth. At lease the badness of Dark Tower was forshadowed. The last two books were not good.

Commander Bailey Tigh, NOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
I hope that Salarian's Armor held up against the Reapers.
Wonder if Liara's Dad, Aria, Blasto, PTSD Asari Killer, The Council Douches, and the Alzheimer's Lady got out of the Citadel in time...

99% of the game before the ending is better than ME1 and ME2 so the Matrix example doesn't work.

It's great set pieces, and the fighting is pretty good, but it feels alot more linear than the other 2 games.

 

[Kurtofan]

Ok after ME2 i wanted to stay away from the ME franchise as a whole. I felt that ME2 really sullied the franchise for me and undid many of the things I liked about ME1.... then I watched the ending to ME3 at a friends place...

I feel sad. I mean genuinely sad. I know Nerd problems and all, but I can't even be angry about it anymore. I'm simply sad that a franchise I held dearly, one that started out with so much promise did end like this. It's basically like Matrix 2 and 3. It got better on the technical level, but worse in pretty much everything else, and the ending in both cases was simply a letdown of epic proportions.

Even if the ending can be disappointing, the game as a whole is pretty great.

 

[firehawk12]

Ok after ME2 i wanted to stay away from the ME franchise as a whole. I felt that ME2 really sullied the franchise for me and undid many of the things I liked about ME1.... then I watched the ending to ME3 at a friends place...

I feel sad. I mean genuinely sad. I know Nerd problems and all, but I can't even be angry about it anymore. I'm simply sad that a franchise I held dearly, one that started out with so much promise did end like this. It's basically like Matrix 2 and 3. It got better on the technical level, but worse in pretty much everything else, and the ending in both cases was simply a letdown of epic proportions.

This is exactly how I feel. All my anger was released at the end of ME2, so I have no real disappointment at ME3 since I didn't really expect anything good.

All endings! Indoctrination!

No fanfiction, etc!

 

[Rebel Leader]

Play ME3. Don't judge it solely on the ending.

99 percent of the game is great.

99% of the game before the ending is better than ME1 and ME2 so the Matrix example doesn't work.

99% of the game is very good

 

[firehawk12]

99% of the game is very good

How many % points are the dream sequences?

 

[bengraven]

Sad that the ending is getting so much attention since the game is really fairly solid. Though it feels like ME2.5 and is really damn short. I put in like 30 hours, when I put in over 60 in ME2.

Another odd thing about the 'ending' for me. I have like zero motivation for a second playthrough or to get any future dlc.

Unless the dlc is a minigame where I drive a space croissant around, wiping out societies... like Space Rampage or something.

I disagree about not wanting a second playthrough: I'll just keep choosing the same ending.

That said, I agree that I have zero interest in DLC and I wonder if they'll notice that. Sorry, but i have no interest in paying for new team members that I'm just either killing or sending off to a jungle island.

 

[LiK]

How many % points are the dream sequences?

.5%

 

[Patryn]

How many % points are the dream sequences?

Someone did the math and calculated that, for the average player, the ending is .5 percent of the entire game. By saying 99 percent, you leave room for .5 percent of other stuff to be crap.

 

[firehawk12]

.5%

And the Pac-Man sequences?

Someone did the math and calculated that, for the average player, the ending is .5 percent of the entire game. By saying 99 percent, you leave room for .5 percent of other stuff to be crap.

Haha. I'd also add the few turret sequences as well. And the "lazing the Reaper" sequence. And probably the final London fight where you are spammed brutes and banshees while protecting the missiles.

And all the load times between decks on the Normandy.

 

[Derrick01]

Someone did the math and calculated that, for the average player, the ending is .5 percent of the entire game. By saying 99 percent, you leave room for .5 percent of other stuff to be crap.

I said this before but pretty much all the terrible points in this game involve that fucking kid to some point. I count the ending too because that thing takes the form of the kid.

 

[Jake Tower]

Commander Bailey Tigh, NOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
I hope that Salarian's Armor held up against the Reapers.
Wonder if Liara's Dad, Aria, Blasto, PTSD Asari Killer, The Council Douches, and the Alzheimer's Lady got out of the Citadel in time....

At least Teen Refugee is with her parents now.

 

[Rebel Leader]

How many % points are the dream sequences?

umm..

EDIT: .5
What?

 

[Sojgat]

I posted allready how the ending reminded me of the end of new Battlstar Galactica. But now you mention, it is like matrix rev also. So much so that it seems weird that any writer would rip off endings so universally hated for ruining their franchises. Franchises by the way whose cast members make up a great deal of Mass Effects own cast.

 

[Kurtofan]

And the Pac-Man sequences?

What are the PacMan sequences?

At least Teen Refugee is with her parents now.

On Thessia.lol

 

[Kem0sabe]

And the Pac-Man sequences?


Haha. I'd also add the few turret sequences as well. And the "lazing the Reaper" sequence. And probably the final London fight where you are spammed brutes and banshees while protecting the missiles.

And all the load times between decks on the Normandy.

And the stalker/sidequest/fetch quests...

Most of everything else tho... brilliant

 

[Empty Space]

And the Pac-Man sequences?

5-10% I guess you don't really have to do that many if you play the multiplayer. The Pacman sequence are just there I wouldn't really call them good or bad.

I would pick the game up its great the endings are a let down, but that doesn't ruin the whole game.

 

[EatChildren]

I said this before but pretty much all the terrible points in this game involve that fucking kid to some point. I count the ending too because that thing takes the form of the kid.

I keep telling everyone kids are useless little shits that ruin all stories, and again I'm proven correct.

 

[WrenchNinja]

What are the PacMan sequences?

System scanning.

 

[Cagey]

Ok after ME2 i wanted to stay away from the ME franchise as a whole. I felt that ME2 really sullied the franchise for me and undid many of the things I liked about ME1.... then I watched the ending to ME3 at a friends place...

I feel sad. I mean genuinely sad. I know Nerd problems and all, but I can't even be angry about it anymore. I'm simply sad that a franchise I held dearly, one that started out with so much promise did end like this. It's basically like Matrix 2 and 3. It got better on the technical level, but worse in pretty much everything else, and the ending in both cases was simply a letdown of epic proportions.

I was with you on ME2. I really didn't enjoy it.

ME3 is much much better until the shitshow that is the last 5 minutes of the game.

 

[Jake Tower]

What are the PacMan sequences?

When the Inception horn blows and Reapers chase you around on the system level of the galaxy map.

 

[firehawk12]

When the Inception horn blows and Reapers chase you around on the system level of the galaxy map.

Yep. Like the system scanning in ME2, the PacMan stuff in ME3 is probably the one thing that prevents me from finishing the game again. Having to do all that busy work just to get an "optimum" (haha, I know) ending is a bit of a pain.

 

[fabricated backlash]

Play ME3. Don't judge it solely on the ending.

99 percent of the game is great.

I'm sorry but I won't. The game might be perfect to play, but I played ME1 for the fiction and story. I enjoyed it because I liked the way the story unfolded, the way the fiction was provided and presented.

That's why I wasn't a fan of ME2. The story was infinitely worse in both presentation and scope, the shoehorning of the Collectors and Cerberus was cringeworthy,

and now that I've seen the ending, there is simply no way I can muster the energy to play through this.

I'm at the point where I feel completely indifferent about the series. I don't even hate it, I simply don't give a single shit about it anymore. I won't even hate about Bioware, cause I've realized, that they aren't going to make another game I like. Similar to Rare I simply don't care anymore. They're simply not worth hating or caring about to me anymore.

I keep telling everyone kids are useless little shits that ruin all stories, and again I'm proven correct.

Leon the professional, Grave of the fireflies, Lolita, House of the Dead: Overkill, not ruined by kids in them.

 

[Salih]

You mean like Saren? Or Husks, Banshees, Marauders, Brutes, etc.?

Synthesis is the Reaper winning.

Joker sure didn't look like a husk to me.

 

[Red Blaster]

99% of ME3 is not great anyway, game has a lot of issues besides the terrible story.

 

[Patryn]

I'm sorry but I won't. The game might be perfect to play, but I played ME1 for the fiction and story. I enjoyed it because I liked the way the story unfolded, the way the fiction was provided and presented.

That's why I wasn't a fan of ME2. The story was infinitely worse in both presentation and scope, the shoehorning of the Collectors and Cerberus was cringeworthy,

and now that I've seen the ending, there is simply no way I can muster the energy to play through this.

I'm at the point where I feel completely indifferent about the series. I don't even hate it, I simply don't give a single shit about it anymore. I won't even hate about Bioware, cause I've realized, that they aren't going to make another game I like. Similar to Rare I simply don't care anymore. They're simply not worth hating or caring about to me anymore.

Your loss. A lot of stuff is resolved. If you disregard the last 10 minutes, it does a better job bringing closure to the series than I ever expected.

 

[firehawk12]

I'm sorry but I won't. The game might be perfect to play, but I played ME1 for the fiction and story. I enjoyed it because I liked the way the story unfolded, the way the fiction was provided and presented.

That's why I wasn't a fan of ME2. The story was infinitely worse in both presentation and scope, the shoehorning of the Collectors and Cerberus was cringeworthy,

and now that I've seen the ending, there is simply no way I can muster the energy to play through this.

I'm at the point where I feel completely indifferent about the series. I don't even hate it, I simply don't give a single shit about it anymore. I won't even hate about Bioware, cause I've realized, that they aren't going to make another game I like. Similar to Rare I simply don't care anymore. They're simply not worth hating or caring about to me anymore.

ME3 is definitely not ME1 in any respect. I think if you've moved on, it's best to just stay away. Unfortunately, I couldn't this time because I put so much time into 1 and 2, but I know this is probably my last BioWare game.

 

[Derrick01]

I keep telling everyone kids are useless little shits that ruin all stories, and again I'm proven correct.

The sooner we get rid of them all the sooner this world would be fixed!

 

[Kurtofan]

I'm sorry but I won't. The game might be perfect to play, but I played ME1 for the fiction and story. I enjoyed it because I liked the way the story unfolded, the way the fiction was provided and presented.

That's why I wasn't a fan of ME2. The story was infinitely worse in both presentation and scope, the shoehorning of the Collectors and Cerberus was cringeworthy,

and now that I've seen the ending, there is simply no way I can muster the energy to play through this.

I'm at the point where I feel completely indifferent about the series. I don't even hate it, I simply don't give a single shit about it anymore. I won't even hate about Bioware, cause I've realized, that they aren't going to make another game I like. Similar to Rare I simply don't care anymore. They're simply not worth hating or caring about to me anymore.

It's not just the gameplay that is good in ME3, the storytelling and the relations between the characters are great.

 

[firehawk12]

The sooner we get rid of them all the sooner this world would be fixed!

Children of Men was actually depicting a utopian paradise?

 

[Derrick01]

Children of Men was actually depicting a utopian paradise?

They were all super happy and living in paradise. They just didn't know it.

 

[firehawk12]

They were all super happy and living in paradise. They just didn't know it.

Clive Owen ruins everything.

 

[fabricated backlash]

It's not just the gameplay that is good in ME3, the storytelling and the relations between the characters are great.

Could be, but like I said, I'm indifferent about the series and Bioware at this point. I might watch a playthrough on Youtube, or play it at my friends house, or watch it being played, but I won't invest anymore thoughts or energy into this. A shame that Boris Shephard will never again see the light of the galaxy, after completing both ME1 and 2 with all achievements and 100% completion.

 

[Lonestar]

I'm trying to remember: Was Cerberus or TIM ever in ME1?

 

[Empty Space]

I'm trying to remember: Was Cerberus or TIM ever in ME1?

Cerberus yes multiple times. TIM maybe he could be Bane from clinic side quest.

 

[firehawk12]

I'm trying to remember: Was Cerberus or TIM ever in ME1?

Cerberus was - and you fight them several times, but they were in no way this EVIL ORGANIZATION run by an eccentric rich billionaire.

 

[Blue Ninja]

I'm trying to remember: Was Cerberus or TIM ever in ME1?

Cerberus, yeah. They were portrayed as a rogue Alliance black ops group, though, which is pretty different from what they are in ME2. The Illusive Man, no.

Oh, and here's my version of ME3's ending.

 

[Kurtofan]

I'm trying to remember: Was Cerberus or TIM ever in ME1?

Cerberus was in sidequests, but TIM wasn't mentioned as far as I know.

 

[ape2man]

I'm trying to remember: Was Cerberus or TIM ever in ME1?

yes, there were a few missions that had cerberus involvement.

 

[EatChildren]

I'm trying to remember: Was Cerberus or TIM ever in ME1?

Cerberus was exposed mostly through side quests, though you can piece together their connection and involvement in numerous main quest locations (like the Rachni lab on Noveria). TIM wasn't, but at that point I figure BioWare were establishing Cerberus on a smaller scale to increase their significance in sequels.

 

[LiK]

I'm trying to remember: Was Cerberus or TIM ever in ME1?

Cerberus was the group you kept bumping into in some missions in ME1.

 

[firehawk12]

Cerberus was exposed mostly through side quests, though you can piece together their connection and involvement in numerous main quest locations (like the Rachni lab on Noveria). TIM wasn't, but at that point I figure BioWare were establishing Cerberus on a smaller scale to increase their significance in sequels.

It makes no sense though. In 2 or 3 years or whatever, they go from this CIA-gone-bad organization to this corporation that can make sexy ninja robots and cereal eating assassins.

 

[Papercuts]

The most important part of the ending: The moment you gained control to pick a path, who all tried to shoot the kid first?

You all fucking better have.

 

[Sojgat]

TIM wasn't in ME1. Cerberus were and they factor into the game in a more personal way depending on what background you pick. Sole survivor, I think. They were doing weird science experiments on rachni and stuff even back then.