Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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There isn't a canon ending.
Sir Garbageman
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So whats the Indoctrination theory being kicked around? When Shep gets hit with the Reaper beam or during his convo with TIM he is indoctrinated and the space kid is all a hallucination?
Finger´s are off, but the "normal" (human) neck is the most jarring. Tali in game looks to have an almost giraffe like neck.
started in the Arrival DLC I think
firehawk12
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You could argue that ME2 and 3 were all a dream at this point. It could go all the way back to the first Harbinger meeting in ME1.
Basically, that everything after getting blasted by Harbinger is in Shepard's head as the indoctrination process is occurring. And that by picking Destroy, you're fighting the indoctrination.
That the breath ending shows Shepard waking up in the rubble of London after getting hit by Harbinger's beam.
Oh, also that the kid never existed, and has always been Harbinger trying to get into Shepard's head.
If there's going to be a ME4, there's going to be a canon ending.
It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up magazine, Salt n' Pepa and Heavy D up in the limousine...
You could argue that ME2 and 3 were all a dream at this point. It could go all the way back to the first Harbinger meeting in ME1.
Well that would certainly blow one's mind.
Except all three endings basically put things in the same place: Mass Relays destroyed, Citadel gone, Reapers gone.
Everything else is just minor variations on that, barring Synthesis.
RyanardoDaVinci
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I loved the elevators too. Sure, it doesn't make much sense when it takes you 30sec to go down one deck in the Normandy, but I hate - HATE - loading screens!
You could argue that ME2 and 3 were all a dream at this point. It could go all the way back to the first Harbinger meeting in ME1.
Not sure it would blow peoples mind considering he wasn't in ME1, Sovereign not Harbinger, lol.
EatChildren
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I still think synthesis is the lore framework to build new mechanics, aka, not adhere to the same biotic/tech powers, or even class selection, in future Mass Effect games.
I agree it has the most possibility. But I think the inevitable ME4 will probably portray things in such a way that never confirms exactly which ending it's following from.
Empty Space
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They could also just make Synthesis a goofy green filter type effect like it is right now to save themselves the hassle of writing around it or for depending on the endings.
It wouldn't be mind-blowing in a good way, haha.
I was thinking more of a "shoot me pls, this was what you considered to be brilliant storytelling?" way.
and we fight organic Reapers with Shepard as the new Harbinger. The Legend is now your enemy.
Sir Garbageman
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Thanks.
FrontalMonk
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Thank you for the biggie reference. I kept thinking it while talking to friends, but always forgot by the time I sat down to post.
It would just be to disimilar to what ME is now. Thats why the ending seems like such brand suicide. I don't buy it.
Given that the Citadel and Mass Relays are all gone no matter what, they're all brand suicide.
Well, I picked Synthesis, so you can see why I'm wondering if that was the right choice. I'm thinking the breath scene indicates that maybe it wasn't?
UnluckyKate
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Is this real ?
Good god, do I have to say it here? THERE IS NO BEST ENDING.
Yesiree Bob.
One of them is going to have to end up cannon if they do anything in the near future from when ME3 takes place.
Either everyone is now half synthetic, Synergy ending.
There is no synthetic life at all, Destruction ending.
Or organics/synthetics are still around together and the Reapers are hanging out somewhere, Control ending.
One of them is going to end up cannon when we weither see green people or something geth like walking around in any future ME game.
YUP. INDOCTRINATION
:/
The breath scene is Shepard last gasps before his synthetics fail on him.
Considering that default Shep is mostly renegade, i figure if any of the ending´s is to be considered cannon, it would be the destroy/red magic one, you even get the bonus "hes alive" clip at the end of that one.
bengraven
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I don't understand where creators come off thinking the dream-like super powered Matrix ending is the most intelligent way of doing things. When you create a large universe in three games with dozens of characters you come to like, you don't suddenly fade to black (in so many words) and maybe see one or two of them. Give me the fucking respect of another 5 minutes of "this is what happened next" like in Dragon Age Origins at least.
If Bioware is seriously trolling us with "if you knew our plans, you wouldn't complain". It makes me think they're planning on ME4 being a direct continuation instead of the beginning of another trilogy. If so, they should have let us know, because they made us think this was the end of this story. Especially with the Buzz Aldrin ending.
Synthesis was the best ending despite the space magic Jesus Neo moment.
If Bioware is seriously trolling us with "if you knew our plans, you wouldn't complain". It makes me think they're planning on ME4 being a direct continuation instead of the beginning of another trilogy. If so, they should have let us know, because they made us think this was the end of this story. Especially with the Buzz Aldrin ending.
Synthesis was the best ending despite the space magic Jesus Neo moment.
UnluckyKate
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No, I mean... Is it for real ?
Empty Space
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You know they could just say at some point the in future that since you picked the Syntheis ending there is no order/chaos conflict anymore and thus no need for a ME4 and that lets them ignore that ending entirely.
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still not up? T_T
EatChildren
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Most likely. They'll keep it as vague as possible I assume.
Hahaha, this too, is possible.
I believe being dissimilar is exactly what they wanted. I don't really subscribe to the 'universe reset' argument because, despite the horrific state of the universe, everything other than the relays still 'exists', including knowledge of events (the stargazer ending is the only thing that refutes this). I don't believe BioWare is interested in creating more Mass Effect exactly as they have now. More in the universe, yes, but with enough changes to establish new lore points, and a forward moving direction for the franchise.
By destroying the relays they now have to rework and write the development of each species given new technological limitations. Synthesis grants new 'abilities' and format for each species, allowing them to also rework classes, powers, abilities, and entire technological mechanics.
I state this purely from a production/development perspective. I believe ME3's goal wasn't just to end Shepard's trilogy, but to end the current known Mass Effect story arc as we know it.
EmCeeGramr
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Mass Effect MMO or sequel 2000 years in the future where technology is roughly the same, Star Wars style.
"The Shepard left this artifact" *something either never seen in the trilogy or that contradicts what another questline implies canon Shepard did* "Well it all happened a long time ago. That's where we think the cyborg species came from, but we're not sure."
:/
haven't seen this posted, mock if old
Holy shit.
EatChildren
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An MMO is what BioWare keeps implying as their hopes for the franchise. Without EA's backing I don't know if that would ever come to fruition though, especially since we only just got TOR.
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bengraven
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Basically what I'm thinking.
It will be purposely murky, confusing, "lost to legend". It will be a world where we had to make our own relays or learn FTL speed. Earth will be a lost sanctuary of mixed races yet they will never reveal if those races came to a charred, dead earth and settled (kill all organics) or if they were survivors of the fight against the Reapers who couldn't return home (destroy Reapers). And then most people have synthetic upgrades though you don't know if it's because of the Synthesis ending or because they choose the upgrades themselves (and even chosen upgrades are "passed from parent to children", effectively making Synthesis not necessarily canon, but possible).
EmCeeGramr
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I liked that EDI had the cyber veins on her too. Even though she was already a robot.
How can you still believe this?
Empty Space
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Because its explicitly stated they are gone?
Could happen, they now have to rely on slower travel around a galaxy that used to take seconds, a lot of civilisation was killed, most of the fleet being left by Earth which after being decimated would have little supplies left for so many and now there are planets that have to rely on their own system or spend a long time travelling somewhere.
As others have mentioned in the topic and some writer somewhere, it would plunge the galaxy into a galactic "dark ages" where development would slow the hell down.
There's a difference between canon and best, dude. I agree that Synthesis is probably the lore framework, but the breath scene for Destroy makes me wonder if Shepard's story isn't over yet.
I would have been happy with Shepard and Anderson just bleeding out on the Citadel deck with Earth as the last thing they see.
Yeah, that was like what, a billion people? Kolyat too
EatChildren
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Alternate Timeline Universe featuring the return of Shepard-san.
Yeah, that was like what, a billion people? Kolyat too
And Dr Michel too. Poor thing didn't get to admit her true love to Garrus
Probably for the best though. He was hittin dat quarian ass.
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