Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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So... wheres this image originally from? Considering how many times it been used I kind of have to know now. The movie or TV show part not the Casey Hudson pic.
 
What about other galaxies? The galaxy map feels nice and big, but I find it almost surprising we haven't talked to any other galaxies.

Bringing in other galaxies would open up a whole new can of worms. There's billions of galaxies... that number is so enormous that it's impossible for our brains to put it in perspective. If you bring in another galaxy, then why not another and another and another...there's 50 billion of them. Including other galaxies, even with just dialogue and codex, would make the ME setting feel inconsequential due to the incomprehensible size of the universe. I like how it's confined to one galaxy. Perhaps someone else can describe this better than I can.
 
I remember the ME2 ending thread when people were trying to use the Pythagorean theorem to determine how fast the Reapers were flying from Dark Space to get back to the galaxy.

ME2 just shat all over ME1, or Vigil was woefully inaccurate.
ME2 then shits on itself, and then ME3 shits on it.

What about other galaxies? The galaxy map feels nice and big, but I find it almost surprising we haven't talked to any other galaxies.

My biggest problem with all the VI conversations is that they always instantly know who and what you are talking about even though you use names that they would have no understanding. AH YES THE ONE YOU CALL SAREN YES I KNOW

There has to be more than one Shepard in the galaxy... oh shit... we are the other shepards. We experience the life of the SHEPHERD throughout many recurring lives as he is reincarnated as a different sex or race, whether he or she is pleasantly ugly or hideously beautiful. In effect, THE SHEPHERD is reliving life over and over again in some sort of Groundhog's Day situation, trying desperately to change the fate of the universe only to find out that it all comes down to red, green, or blue.
 
Well there's a synopsis of it thats relatively easy to find. It's not that different but it's just that some stuff appears to be cut that could've explained some things better. The "Hammer" operation and the approach to the beam seem to have changed significantly. It orginally was more along the lines of the ME2 ending (assigning squadmates etc.) and at one point the Normandy swooped in to help you (that could at least explain why it picked up your squadmates). Still the 3 ending choices were essentially the same.


Man one of my favorite parts about ME2 ending was seeing people complain about squadmates dying because they mad fucking stupid decisions when it comes to the choices at the end. Or because they skipped loyalty missions (aka best party of the game)



You had Miranda make a biotic field over samara/jack? Skipped loyalty missions? You deserve a dead crew.


Bringing in other galaxies would open up a whole new can of worms. There's billions of galaxies... that number is so enormous that it's impossible for our brains to put it in perspective. If you bring in another galaxy, then why not another and another and another...there's 50 billion of them. Including other galaxies, even with just dialogue and codex, would make the ME setting feel inconsequential due to the incomprehensible size of the universe. I like how it's confined to one galaxy. Perhaps someone else can describe this better than I can.

Hell even in the milky way they have multiple star systems with mass relays they haven't opened yet because they don't want a repeat of the rachni wars.

Was really hoping to pop through some of those as future games even if shep was dead but those are gone to with this dumb ending.
 
Bringing in other galaxies would open up a whole new can of worms. There's billions of galaxies... that number is so enormous that it's impossible for our brains to put it in perspective. If you bring in another galaxy, then why not another and another and another...there's 50 billion of them. Including other galaxies, even with just dialogue and codex, would make the ME setting feel inconsequential due to the incomprehensible size of the universe. I like how it's confined to one galaxy. Perhaps someone else can describe this better than I can.

And maybe include the multiverse theory so my new Shepard can save the Legend Shepards mistakes to even try save the galaxy.
 
There has to be more than one Shepard in the galaxy... oh shit... we are the other shepards. We experience the life of the SHEPHERD throughout many recurring lives as he is reincarnated as a different sex or race, whether he or she is pleasantly ugly or hideously beautiful. In effect, THE SHEPHERD is reliving life over and over again in some sort of Groundhog's Day situation, trying desperately to change the fate of the universe only to find out that it all comes down to red, green, or blue.

Wake up, Mr. Shepard. Wake up. And smell the ashessssssssssss
 
Besides Shepard, who really does deserve an Indoctrination tag, has anybody else stuck with their the ending is fine idea? I think everybody else has turned over after like a day.
 
What about other galaxies? The galaxy map feels nice and big, but I find it almost surprising we haven't talked to any other galaxies.

Well, the civilizations, thanks to the reapers, aren't actually as advanced as they seem. They have faster than light travel, but rely on the mass relays for galactic communication and travel. Their communication is still far to primitive to communicate outside the galaxy.
 
What they really cut you assigning squad mates/resources to effect the outcome. Why would you ever do that. I think I'm starting to fall into the they ran out of time camp and just needed the game out before the end of the fiscal year.

I have always maintained this, not just because of the ending but because of many other rushed seeming elements of the overall game design (which I wont list because it has been done many times).
 
You had Miranda make a biotic field over samara/jack? Skipped loyalty missions? You deserve a dead crew.

Hehe, that was so cruel. I chose Jack but unfortunately she didnt like my Cerberus ties / siding with Miranda (hey, i had to protect the relationship) and therefore wasnt strong enough to sustain the field => Samara died. My standard Shep - Miri - Samy squad was left devasted and because Thane also bit the dust, Tali had to fill in and the final fight was way harder for me than it had any right to be :(. I will never forgive Bioware that Thane wasnt among the right infiltrate choices! Also could've slapped Jack in ME3 when she told the story how strong she had to be in order to hold up that Biotic field.
 
What they really cut you assigning squad mates/resources to effect the outcome. Why would you ever do that. I think I'm starting to fall into the they ran out of time camp and just needed the game out before the end of the fiscal year.
Well, yeah. If the game had another six months' time and a better lead writer, things might have been very different.
 
Man one of my favorite parts about ME2 ending was seeing people complain about squadmates dying because they mad fucking stupid decisions when it comes to the choices at the end. Or because they skipped loyalty missions (aka best party of the game)



You had Miranda make a biotic field over samara/jack? Skipped loyalty missions? You deserve a dead crew.

I like to think my decision to have Jack hold the field made a good impact on her and helped her towards her Grissom Academy position. She just needed to have some responsibility and she grew right out of that rebellious phase.

God, the loyalty missions and choosing roles for the suicide mission were so good. Would have been so sweet if we got something similar in ME3 except using the fleet we assembled :(
 
Understood, and not saying we need to see other galaxies (though it would be cool). But the Reapers seem to only reap our galaxy. What's to stop other galaxies from advancing so far that they just intrude on our galaxy with their synthetics and start killing us? PLOT HOLE INDEED
 
Understood, and not saying we need to see other galaxies (though it would be cool). But the Reapers seem to only reap our galaxy. What's to stop other galaxies from advancing so far that they just intrude on our galaxy with their synthetics and start killing us? PLOT HOLE INDEED

If that happens then at least we have Shepard's Reapers to save us!

and then kill us
 
Understood, and not saying we need to see other galaxies (though it would be cool). But the Reapers seem to only reap our galaxy. What's to stop other galaxies from advancing so far that they just intrude on our galaxy with their synthetics and start killing us? PLOT HOLE INDEED

How would they even get there?
 
Hehe, that was so cruel. I chose Jack but unfortunately she didnt like my Cerberus ties / siding with Miranda (hey, i had to protect the relationship) and therefore wasnt strong enough to sustain the field => Samara died. My standard Shep - Miri - Samy squad was left devasted and because Thane also bit the dust, Tali had to fill in and the final fight was way harder for me than it had any right to be :(. I will never forgive Bioware that Thane wasnt among the right infiltrate choices! Also could've slapped Jack in ME3 when she told the story how strong she had to be in order to hold up that Biotic field.

The selection page says TECH EXPERT. Had Thane shown any technical skills?

It amazes me how many people heard VENT and immediately thought THANE.
 
Was it just me or did all the stuff after the Quarians and Geth feel rushed? With the Asari it's like "Oh hey you gotta do this one thing for us, but then were screwed, so you can go do your other thing."

The game started so damn awesome with the Tuchanka stuff too.
 
Was it just me or did all the stuff after the Quarians and Geth feel rushed? With the Asari it's like "Oh hey you gotta do this one thing for us, but then were screwed, so you can go do your other thing."

The game started so damn awesome with the Tuchanka stuff too.

Yeah, the whole Asari section felt way too short. Honestly, I also would have been okay with the Turian section getting a bit more fleshed out.

The whole game seems to focus on the Krogan and the Quarian/Geth stuff.
 
Understood, and not saying we need to see other galaxies (though it would be cool). But the Reapers seem to only reap our galaxy. What's to stop other galaxies from advancing so far that they just intrude on our galaxy with their synthetics and start killing us? PLOT HOLE INDEED

I always thought that the Reapers were from a galaxy closer to the center of the Big Bang and thus an older one who came to ours, because they ran out of shit to reap in their own. ME3 kind of blew that out of the water, but it would been an neat idea.

The Thane vent thing and the number of people who sent him is hilarious. I sent Mordin in the first time I did that sequence, because he seemed like enough of a tech expert, but nope apparently all his genius existed in biology despite having three tech moves.
 
Was it just me or did all the stuff after the Quarians and Geth feel rushed? With the Asari it's like "Oh hey you gotta do this one thing for us, but then were screwed, so you can go do your other thing."

The game started so damn awesome with the Tuchanka stuff too.

In honesty, the stupidity of all the other races in how long they took to help out Earth, the epicentre of the Reaper invasion, just tells me they deserve to die.
 
The selection page says TECH EXPERT. Had Thane shown any technical skills?

It amazes me how many people heard VENT and immediately thought THANE.

Yeah, guess i learned that the hard way but fortunately i could always see his death as a final sacrifice that gave his life purpose!
 
The selection page says TECH EXPERT. Had Thane shown any technical skills?

It amazes me how many people heard VENT and immediately thought THANE.

I actually picked Thane because they played up the Vent as being "dangerous" and I was like "Thane is the character who's going to die anyway". Also, he's like...a lizard person....they should be good with high temperatures, right?
 
Was it just me or did all the stuff after the Quarians and Geth feel rushed? With the Asari it's like "Oh hey you gotta do this one thing for us, but then were screwed, so you can go do your other thing."

The game started so damn awesome with the Tuchanka stuff too.

Yeah it does, i think there was something in the leak about the Asari Command Ship docking to the Normandy etc. so there was definitely more stuff planned.
 
This talk about ME2 just reinforces how bad ME3's end sequence is, even before the Citadel. Whatever other problems ME2 had, at least your actions prior to going through the Omega-4 Relay mattered (recruitment, loyalty missions, ship upgrades) and you had meaningful choices with assignments once in the base. So many people ended up with actually different character consequences because of that, even if the ultimate end was either Shepard lives or dies.
 
Let's speculate for a minute: If we assume that the Mike Gamble tweet about working late is referring to ending DLC/patch, how long until Bioware releases it? Probably a month or so from now? I imagine they won't do anything substantial.
 
Yeah, the whole Asari section felt way too short. Honestly, I also would have been okay with the Turian section getting a bit more fleshed out.

The whole game seems to focus on the Krogan and the Quarian/Geth stuff.

Yeah you're right, they could easily have had more Turian missions near Palaven. Would have been good to have the same amount of side quests with Turian and Asari as with the others. Also Cerberus was really overused I felt, stupid as that sounds with that assault on cronos station.
 
Let's speculate for a minute: If we assume that the Mike Gamble tweet is referring to ending DLC/patch, how long until Bioware releases it? Probably a month or so from now? I imagine they won't do anything substantial.

I this was all planned out a month or so shortly after PAX where the announce it. If they are as inept as the seem to indicate I'd say three months, but still with an announcement at PAX.


Speaking of the Kid, how fucking dense was he?

"You can't help me."

"... why the hell not?"

That's cause he's like not real man. It's all Indoctrination man. Don't you get it.
 
Let's speculate for a minute: If we assume that the Mike Gamble tweet about working late is referring to ending DLC/patch, how long until Bioware releases it? Probably a month or so from now? I imagine they won't do anything substantial.

It sounds like they might do some stupid time travel thingy....
Wait, that's actually great because I can insist all of that did not happen.
 
Yeah you're right, they could easily have had more Turian missions near Palaven.

It would have been nice if the Normandy played a role in the "Miracle at Paleven" or at least show us a vidcom / cutscene. It was so random when that Codex Entry finally popped upped.
 
I hope the DLC is like the last episode of Evangelion: not much of action, but a lot of explaining the real meaning behind the catalyst actions.
 
Let's speculate for a minute: If we assume that the Mike Gamble tweet about working late is referring to ending DLC/patch, how long until Bioware releases it? Probably a month or so from now? I imagine they won't do anything substantial.

Two months minimum.

You have to write it, cast the VA who they don't have contracts with, get all the VAs into the studio to record lines while you code it, QA it, then send it for cert.

If it's going to have any length, that'll take a while.
 
They're in London that final stretch, so maybe DLC will add in a Tardis

it can take them to that one London part of Modern Warfare 3 where another random little kid dies to make the player feel sad, and you can tell it's London because there's a phone box, a soccer ball, a double decker bus, two pubs, three Union Jacks, and Big Ben in the frame at the same time
 
Two months minimum.

You have to write it, cast the VA who they don't have contracts with, get all the VAs into the studio to record lines while you code it, QA it, then send it for cert.

If it's going to have any length, that'll take a while.
That's assuming they weren't working on it from before the time the game went gold. And it also assumes that that is in fact what they're working on, and not some multiplayer maps.
 
So i replayed the ending, choose the cherry ending instead of lime, and this time both Liara and Garrus stepped out of the normandy..both of them were in my squad heading to the beam. Now the ending makes even less sense.
I'm officaly going with the indoctrination ending, everthing after being hit by the before entering the beam did not happen, that was al in shepards head.
 
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