I'll probably just replay it in a lower difficulty to get the "full" ending, and wait for the DLCs.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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The problem with fan made is that it means nothing. Future games (if there are) are going to take the canon story/ending and build upon that.
Really? You're not sure which one is worse?
I'll tell you, it's the second option. Mass Effect has been a great ride, with some spotty writing and design decisions here and there. But seeing people coming into this thread saying, "Man, thank goodness I read this spoiler thread to a game I haven't even played so now I know that Mass Effect 3 and the whole series is shit," is such base, retroactive thinking that it blows my mind. From a gameplay standpoint, the series has made marked improvements game to game (dependent, of course, on if you enjoy action games). I think Mass Effect 3 is a game that should be played, especially if you have any involvement in the series. There are call backs to the previous games sprinkled throughout the game and the way Bioware has managed to save your decisions throughout the series is a feature I really hope carries over to next gen.
So yeah, anger levels seem to be a little high right now, but let's not take away from what ME did right as a series.
If anything the biotics and abilities in this game makes it much easier than normal shooters. I wish I could cloak every 3 seconds in COD on veteran or Gears on the hardest mode and snipe.
Eh, I disagree. ME1 was just chasing Saren around and watching the same confusing clip of the beacon, then letting Liara mind-rape you after every mission if you had her (just remembered that you could ignore her until after all the other major planets). The crew of the Normandy was in its own little bubble, and the only real insight into the various races of the universe were courtesy of their respective mouthpieces in your squad. So in that respect, ME1 was more "focused"--though I would call it limited.
ME2 was much broader in scope and execution, and it would be a disservice to call all the plots such as the genophage and the quarian-Geth war tangential to the main plot, because the integrity of the universe is ultimately the entire goal of the Mass Effect series. Furthermore, the entire point of ME2 was to gather an impressive force to attack the Collectors, so each recruit and loyalty mission were technically a part of the main plot.
I was exaggerating, obviously.
Hell, I call ME a story-RPG with annoying action-y bits and incredibly stupid scanning bits in between conversations. =p
Holy crap :lol
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Plenty of shooters have the equivalent of magic powers, or just straight up magic powers in the case of Shadowrun.
What I was trying to say is, ME2 story without its closure in ME3 can feel out of place. Yes, you end up knowing a lot more of the lore, the universe, but the collectors and illusive man were kinda disjointed from the main story of the reapers. ME1 has a closed story, almost self-supporting story. In the series as a whole, ME2's story is way more relevant, though.
That's the indoctrination. It even says so in the game's Codex.
Yes, you're starting to fully understand how good it was, let it in!
I was waiting for this. The whole controversy reminded me of the End of Evangelion shitstorm.
I remember that... but did I even read the codex? I don't remember... such a good ending...
I disagree with you in the sense that I thought the basic plot ME1 was pretty bad and ME2 was no worse. The whole premise of cycle doesn't make sense in an expending universe. Plus the revelation of Reaper's intention was handled pretty poorly. It was just a big text block info dump. I thought ME2 focused on BioWare's strength which was character development.
There is no excuse for ME3's retarded ending. The overarching plot, no matter how dumb the premise is, need to be internally consistent.
Loss of memory is just one of the symptoms.
It's only been posted like five times now.KieferCrimson said:
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That's the problem. ME3 entered the 'uncanny valley' of action games, specifically third person cover based shooters. The more it tried to make the game-play all about that, the more its flaws become apparent.
If you're an action game fan, you have a mediocre action game.
If you're a RPG fan, you have character moments that are probably lost on you because not one character is introduced and developed in this game by itself (possibly Javik but he's GO BUY DLC LOL). You have auto-dialog cutscenes where you'll probably miss the Paragon or Renegade interrupt prompt because you set your controller down to watch.
If you're a Mass Effect fan you can salvage enjoyment out of all of this because of the context of the game... except the ending takes a giant shit all over it. So even the Mass Effect fan is left wondering, "why the fuck do I like this series again?"
They felt disjointed because you knew those plot strands would be knotted up in 3. You could make that argument about certain things in ME1 as well, such as the Rachni or the Council.
I can understand your argument but I disagree with it. ME2 felt as self contained as ME1 did. There was finality in the ending, but obviously you knew there was more to come as the Reapers began their journey back to wreaking some havoc.
I am catching myself too thinking it wasn't that bad. But then I think of Shepards squadmates, the war(s) he resolved, friendhsips he made and built the foundation to something great in the galaxy.
... then the state of the galaxy after the ending comes to my mind ...
Are you sure? I don't remember reading about that...
The action game is decent. As a pure shooter it somewhat falters, but the addition of RPG mechanics and space wizardry puts it over the top.
"If you're a RPG fan, you have character moments that are probably lost on you because not one character is introduced and developed in this game by itself" -- it's the third game in a trilogy. The game chose to expand on and develop the cast it had set up in the previous two games.
"You have auto-dialog cutscenes where you'll probably miss the Paragon or Renegade interrupt prompt because you set your controller down to watch." -- which has been present in the series since ME2.
This one did not hold the line. If he comes back please accept him we need all the troops we can get!
Well excuse me, but I walk away for a couple of minutes and now there's like another four pages more. ):
Are you Mac Walters?
I'm pretty sure I would be more helpful than he would be.
His nick might indicate this. Of course, until it's proven or disproven, it's all open to speculation.
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Impossible. He fugued the ending out. So him being Walters is 0%
Hold the fucking line soldier! I will not let you become indoctrinated!!!!
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EatChildren should stop eating muffins and fapping to EDI and maybe update the OP.
I don't blame him.
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Okay. Are you Casey Hudson?
Why can the Illusive Man personally control Anderson within minutes of the latter's supposed arrival on the Citadel when Anderson clearly does not have Cerberus control hardware implanted? Note that the control immediately lets go when TIM dies.
Is Buzz Aldrin the kid's actual grandfather.
I actually figured this was the Illusive Man figuring out how Indoctrination worked fully and no longer needed implants in people to do it at will. Which I guess technically means, yes, Shepard officially DID become indoctrinated... then killed (or talked to death) the guy who indoctrinated him and made it a moot point.
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How is Shepard alive?
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Thanks for the input/feedback!
Does EDI have an actual vagina?
Does Cerberus method needs a hardware implanted on the subject? As I remember, they have the same method the Reapers have, and they do this without any harware implants.
lol.
What about all the races that are now stuck in Sol system? Where are they going to live? Krogans, Turians, Salarians, Humans - all on earth in happy peace?
This is the result of the experiments conducted on Sanctuary. They were able to master the indoctrination/mind control tech the reapers use. He was obviously being affected himself, which explains his husk like appearance.
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Martin Sheen still looked/sounded like a sexy beast, indoctrination aside.
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Does everyone die due to mass relays exploding?
They can go back to their systems, it's only going to take a lot of time, besides, their population are in their respective planets, only the military is fighting on earth.
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How would you compare this game to the game E. T. for the Atari?
EmCeeGramr
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Their populations are on resourced-drained planets (that relied on the mass relays and colonies for support) that just got scoured by Reapers over months of bombardment.
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Just starting a Renegade Sentinel run. I'm now cheering when that fucking kid gets blown up by the Reaper.
Shake Appeal
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His husk-like appearance is explained by the surgery he volunteered himself for (visible in a log on Cerberus Station). Otherwise, carry on, good sir.
Reapers won't be a problem anymore, they can reconstruct. And they still have the technology to travel to nearby systems/planets.
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