Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Tokubetsu said:
I was under the impression they never had them on the ropes. The weapon worked in testing (against stragglers etc), but when they intiated the war, the reapers were already there.
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IIRC from playing the sequence again yesterday (and not feeling much better about Raan shooting herself in the head than if it were Tali), earlier they mentioned the weapon itself was potent but long-distance targeting would only work for one shot before they'd be jammed anew. Thus requiring Shep and the direct painting of the Reaper later.
 
Y2Kev said:
Are we sure the kid was ever real at all?
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I don't think the kid was real. During the opening scenes on Earth, the boy is never acknowledged by anyone except Shepard, even as he's desperately trying to board a shuttle. Also, he actually disappears twice. The game begins as Shepard watches the kid play with a toy shuttle. Shepard turns to speak with Vega, then when he looks back, the kid is gone. Later, Shepard finds the kid hiding in a vent. Shepard turns away from the boy when Anderson calls his name, and when he turns back, the kid has disappeared again. It seems heavily implied that the boy is some sort of hallucination, whether it's induced by PTSD or has a more sinister origin (indoctrination). Personally, I think indoctrination makes more sense.
 
LegoArmo said:
That guy made me hate the Quarians so much that even when presented with the paragon "get both on your side" option, I still chose to destroy them.
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Hell if I had known Tali was going to kill herself if I let the geth destroy them I would have done it without hesitation. But then I wouldn't have walked in on her and Garrus...

Ah well that's what multiple playthroughs are for right?
 
Tokubetsu said:
I was under the impression they never had them on the ropes. The weapon worked in testing (against stragglers etc), but when they intiated the war, the reapers were already there.
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Legion said the Geth contacted the Reapers as an act of desperation against the Quarian invasion.
 
Crewnh said:
Oh man the review is so fucking good.

"story telling suicide". Dude perfectly lays it out and calls out all the other critics.
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looks like a typical click-bait review for me. I'd give it more credit if it wasn't released just today, after he heard all the fans complains about the game.
 
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DiatribeEQ said:
Okay...spoilered question for those who've beaten the game:

While I've not played the game yet, I have watched the various endings and have a question: Under the best of conditions, what is the status of a "perfect" ending for my crew? I know there is the "Woah, is that Shepard breathing at the end?" styled stuff in the 2 second clip, but in the various endings, you only see 3 of the crew exiting the crashed Normandy, but no sign of anyone else. I ask because I worked my ass off in ME2 to make sure everyone lived.
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LOTS OF SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE

(official Bioware explanation)
 
DiatribeEQ said:
Okay...spoilered question for those who've beaten the game:

While I've not played the game yet, I have watched the various endings and have a question: Under the best of conditions, what is the status of a "perfect" ending for my crew? I know there is the "Woah, is that Shepard breathing at the end?" styled stuff in the 2 second clip, but in the various endings, you only see 3 of the crew exiting the crashed Normandy, but no sign of anyone else. I ask because I worked my ass off in ME2 to make sure everyone lived.
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Who the fuck knows?

ahem

LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
 
evanft said:
I'm honestly sick and tired of this internet trend to label any negative review of a generally positively-reviewed game as "honest".
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The review is actually quite positive about the game, the reviewer spends a great deal of time explaining what he likes about Mass Effect 3 and he quite happily says :-

review said:
98% of its runtime Mass Effect 3 is arguably the best game in the series. Building upon the mold of Mass Effect 2, it’s focused on delivering excellent cover-based gunfights for the bulk of its gameplay, but several tweaks and additions make it a fundamentally better experience. Simple health regeneration is given enough complexity to be a decent mechanic, weapons and powers are better balanced, cover abilities and melee combat are expanded, the number and variety of enemies is improved, and the AI is smart enough to be a legitimate threat on the higher difficulties.
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Then the reviewer gets to the end of the game and it goes all downhill. That is why I called it an HONEST review. It is a review that praises most of the game but highlights the fact the ending takes such a big shit all over the game and the entire franchise.
 
DiatribeEQ said:
Okay...spoilered question for those who've beaten the game:

While I've not played the game yet, I have watched the various endings and have a question: Under the best of conditions, what is the status of a "perfect" ending for my crew? I know there is the "Woah, is that Shepard breathing at the end?" styled stuff in the 2 second clip, but in the various endings, you only see 3 of the crew exiting the crashed Normandy, but no sign of anyone else. I ask because I worked my ass off in ME2 to make sure everyone lived.
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The truth is no one knows. It is assumed that the ones in the ship are all of your squadmates from ME3 because there are slight variations in the endings as to who comes out, but it doesn't include people who were your squaddies in ME2 but are not in 3. There is no explanation as to why or how they were on the ship in the first place, as they are supposed to be on Earth fighting. As for the rest of the people, it is never explicitly said what happens to them.

Truth is, there could be any number of reasons, but not a single one of the endings tell you, so you'll have to speculate.
 
On my ending (Control Reaper option) the people who got out of the Normandy with Joker were EDI and Liara, who were both my companions for the final mission. Does the game not just select the two characters who you chose on the final mission, is it completely random or pre-determined?


I did think it was odd that Liara and EDI were both on the Normandy travelling at FTL speeds away from Earth, given a few minutes previously they would've been getting blown the fuck up by a Reaper... or Marauder Shields.
 
Shepard said:
It's not more honest, it's the guys opinion (and heavily influenced by the fans complains, I bet). It isn't any bit more honest than the tons of other reviews praising the game.
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So any non-prerelease review isn't legitimate? I can't wait to post my review and have it discredited. And he even states why the other reviews aren't as good. GameInformer, IGN, etc. gave the game a 10/10 despite saying that the ending had its flaws. If it has flaws, it isn't perfect. They do this because it gets the reviewers money from the publishers, and as a result the publishers get more money from people thinking the game is perfect.
 
sionyboy said:
On my ending (Control Reaper option) the people who got out of the Normandy with Joker were EDI and Liara, who were both my companions for the final mission. Does the game not just select the two characters who you chose on the final mission, is it completely random or pre-determined?


I did think it was odd that Liara and EDI were both on travelling at FTL speeds away from Earth, given a few minutes previously they would've been getting blown the fuck up by a Reaper... or Marauder Shields.
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In my playthrough (synthesis) I went with Garrus and Liara, and EDI and Garrus got out of the ship in the end. I think that was just laziness on bioware's part.

Karl2177 said:
So any non-prerelease review isn't legitimate? I can't wait to post my review and have it discredited. And he even states why the other reviews aren't as good. GameInformer, IGN, etc. gave the game a 10/10 despite saying that the ending had its flaws. If it has flaws, it isn't perfect. They do this because it gets the reviewers money from the publishers, and as a result the publishers get more money from people thinking the game is perfect.
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I never said anything you implied there. I just said that having a review falling perfectly in line with the fans complains after reading those complains is nothing to brag about. I'd really like to know his initial thought on the game, without a huge fanbase screaming "the end is shit" to alter it.
 
CharmingCharlie said:
The review is actually quite positive about the game, the reviewer spends a great deal of time explaining what he likes about Mass Effect 3 and he quite happily says :-



Then the reviewer gets to the end of the game and it goes all downhill. That is why I called it an HONEST review. It is a review that praises most of the game but highlights the fact the ending takes such a big shit all over the game and the entire franchise.
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But that's just your opinion. Yes, I think the ending is absolutely terrible is for numerous reasons, but it did nothing to change how I felt about the other 150+ hours I've felt playing the series. It certainly didn't change the fact that I enjoyed ME3 more than the two games before it. It definitely won't prevent me from replaying the game with my renegade femshep.
 
sionyboy said:
On my ending (Control Reaper option) the people who got out of the Normandy with Joker were EDI and Liara, who were both my companions for the final mission. Does the game not just select the two characters who you chose on the final mission, is it completely random or pre-determined?


I did think it was odd that Liara and EDI were both on travelling at FTL speeds away from Earth, given a few minutes previously they would've been getting blown the fuck up by a Reaper... or Marauder Shields.
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I chose Synthesis after taking Ashley and Garrus to the final battle, and the game ended with Joker, EDI, and Ashley getting out of the ship. It might have been affected by EDI and Joker hooking up in my save file and my romancing Ashley.
 
Confidence Man said:
Stopped reading here:



The ending is like a black hole sucking up all the criticism when it deserves to be spread out more.
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yeah, that's one thing I don't get about all the hate. The ending was just another reason I didn't like it as much as ME2 or ME1. And maybe that's why I don't hate the ending as much as others.


also, the biggest shame is that there aren't other games to fill the void left by Mass Effect. For the billion fantasy rpgs released every year, there're few for sci-fi space adventures. At least what Mass Effect was going for.
 
Shepard said:
In my playthrough (synthesis) I went with Garrus and Liara, and EDI and Garrus got out of the ship in the end. I think that was just laziness on bioware's part.
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Oh no you don't. You have to explain to us how the Catalyst used space magic to teleport Shepard's buds to the Normandy because they are part of the cycle that is worthy of synthesis with the space cthulus and how it's a symbol of Shepard's love transmorgrified through the power of the Catalyst and how that love tempers the space magic to not kill everyone when the mass relays asplode and why, etc, etc.

It's not just shitty and lazy. It has meaning. Tell us why.
 
Destroy ending for me had Tali and Joker coming out of the ship, third one I don't remember. Tali was both LI and on final mission, whether that is relevant or not.
 
Jake Tower said:
Oh no you don't. You have to explain to us how the Catalyst used space magic to teleport Shepard's buds to the Normandy because they are part of the cycle that is worthy of synthesis with the space cthulus and how it's a symbol of Shepard's love transmorgrified through the power of the Catalyst and how that love tempers the space magic to not kill everyone when the mass relays asplode and why, etc, etc.

It's not just shitty and lazy. It has meaning. Tell us why.
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Nah, almost everything in the end has an explanation, this doesn't.
 
Confidence Man said:
Stopped reading here:



The ending is like a black hole sucking up all the criticism when it deserves to be spread out more.
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Quite true. I haven't pressed the issue in this thread, but ME3 is a pretty mediocre game kept afloat by some nice character moments that it itself doesn't earn, which could only be salvaged by a satisfying endgame, which of course it fails at spectacularly.
 
I'm not sure what scenario is worse.

A game I love in a franchise I love both being ruined by an atrocious ending.

or

If all of ME3 was complete dogshit so I didn't care that the ending was crap.
 
evanft said:
I'm honestly sick and tired of this internet trend to label any negative review of a generally positively-reviewed game as "honest".
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How is it a negative review?

"The vast majority of ME3 is fantastically constructed."

OMG SUCH A NEGATIVE REVIEW SOMEONE CALL IGN MUSICHUB
 
So I think I'm going to bail out on this thread. It has been consuming a ton of my time, and keeping my anger levels high. It is not healthy. I think I'm just going to move on, and see if Bioware lures me back whenever they definitively make a statement. If they make a statement.

Rebel Leader, I know you are here a lot. You should PM if any awesome new memes come along.

Peace.
 
Jake Tower said:
Quite true. I haven't pressed the issue in this thread, but ME3 is a pretty mediocre game kept afloat by some nice character moments that it itself doesn't earn, which could only be salvaged by a satisfying endgame, which of course it fails at spectacularly.
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It's not a mediocre game at all, come on. The combat is hella fun, both powers and gun combat. They are extremely satisfying, especially the guns. The writing, dialogue, music, characterization, and voice acting are all top notch (excluding last 10 minutes of course). The lighting is really nice and the graphics overall are pretty good, save for the low res textures (PC version). Image quality is excellent. Art style is excellent. Load times are so fast (PC). The big set pieces and action sequences are very well done. The RPG elements are much improved over ME2. It's an incredible game for 99% of the experience.

And implying 'the nice character moments don't count' isn't fair. That's all part of the game.
 
Y2Kev said:
How is it a negative review?

"The vast majority of ME3 is fantastically constructed."

OMG SUCH A NEGATIVE REVIEW SOMEONE CALL IGN MUSICHUB
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To be fair, the guy ends up giving the game a 5/10. Even if he didn't like the end that much, I don't think the rest of the game is a 2.5/5 material. Yeah, and I know I'm only looking at the score to say this.
 
Mass Effect 1 to right before the end of 3 - Explain everything even why your guns had heatsinks then back to ammo. Even have paragraphs explaining shit ON EVERY SINGLE PLANET.

The ending - lol speculation
 
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