Touch Season 1 OT Directed by Tim Kring(Heroes) Starring Kiefer Sutherland(24)

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Expected to see nothing but unanimous scorn when I opened this thread, as I wasn't grabbed by it at all. And it seemed awfully reminiscent of Heroes.
Yeah, got that vibe too. Add a little bit of Fringe and Knowing, and you have Touch in a nutshell.

Liked what I saw though, but just one of those shows that can either pull it off decently or just crash and burn with rediculous explanations.
 
I just saw the pilot and really enjoyed it. There were a few bits where I rolled my eyes and thought "here we go again," but the episode was so quick to redeem those moments. My main concern is Kring, as everyone else. I really hope he doesn't mess this one up. I can already think of many ways of how he can do that. Overstating and repeating the numbers and the gift itself without any development is the quickest one that comes to mind, if he can't figure out how to make it, or the upcoming events fresh, it will definitely lose its impact.

But anyhow, I don't wanna get ahead of myself, and I'm willing to give the team another chance. What can I say, the ending, especially the Tokyo scene, tugged my heart's strings.
 
So, just randomly decided to watch the pilot. Was pretty fucking blown away. Got emotional multiple times. You obviously just have to go with it and not try to rationalize and expect logical explanations for everything, for me those epic, holy shit moments are more than worth it. When the hell is the next episode?
 
What an awesome way to sabotage a show at the onset. Make massive wait from ep1-2, just long enough so that people lose interest and forget about the show. Pathetic.

It's the opposite. The idea is to get a sampling while Idol is at its strongest, and then built up hype through Hulu, Fox.com, and VOD viewership before premiering its second episode on a Monday away from Idol. And it'll probably work, considering how well received the pilot was. The only main complaint that people seemed to have was "Kring!", which isn't a complaint on the content as much as a fear of where the show is going forward.

It's a condescend version of what they did with Glee.
 
It's the opposite. The idea is to get a sampling while Idol is at its strongest, and then built up hype through Hulu, Fox.com, and VOD viewership before premiering its second episode on a Monday away from Idol. And it'll probably work, considering how well received the pilot was. The only main complaint that people seemed to have was "Kring!", which isn't a complaint on the content as much as a fear of where the show is going forward.

It's a condescend version of what they did with Glee.

Yep. Plus Fox is airing the pilot again on 3/12 in its regular time slot, so there's another chance for people to check it out.

I'm not even remotely worried about Touch's prospects given how everything else on Fox is performing. I can't imagine it will do worse than Terra Nova or Alcatraz.
 
Yep. Plus Fox is airing the pilot again on 3/12 in its regular time slot, so there's another chance for people to check it out.

I'm not even remotely worried about Touch's prospects given how everything else on Fox is performing. I can't imagine it will do worse than Terra Nova or Alcatraz.

Terra Nova was a great show. Alcatraz isn't bad either.
 
Touch will follow Idol on Thursdays starting March 22nd. The Finder has been bumped until sometime in the spring. Bones will go Mondays at 8.
 
I'm wasn't saying anything about their quality, though both are pretty bad. Both shows got unimpressive ratings.

Ratings mean nothing. Many of the best shows on TV got cancelled early (ie. Flashforward). Terra Nova was very enjoyable, and didnt pretend to be something its not. Better than 90% of the shit out there, like the 79,203 cop/investigative/lawyer shows.
 
Ratings mean nothing. Many of the best shows on TV got cancelled early (ie. Flashforward). Terra Nova was very enjoyable, and didnt pretend to be something its not. Better than 90% of the shit out there, like the 79,203 cop/investigative/lawyer shows.

I've heard a few people liked Flash Forward, but I've never seen anyone suggest it's even remotely in the "best shows on TV" category :p
 
Ratings mean nothing. Many of the best shows on TV got cancelled early (ie. Flashforward). Terra Nova was very enjoyable, and didnt pretend to be something its not. Better than 90% of the shit out there, like the 79,203 cop/investigative/lawyer shows.

We were talking about how Touch is going to perform. In that case ratings are everything. I'm not sure what you're going for here.
 
Just watched the pilot. Thought it was pretty good. The way things came together in the end was neat. Tim Kring seems to like me to have to read when I watch his shows.
 
Ratings mean nothing. Many of the best shows on TV got cancelled early (ie. Flashforward). Terra Nova was very enjoyable, and didnt pretend to be something its not. Better than 90% of the shit out there, like the 79,203 cop/investigative/lawyer shows.

After this was bumped, I'm reading this again and I'm still in slight disbelief.
 
do you work for Neilsen or something? I swear that TV ratings are the only thing I've ever seen you post about on GAF

Nope, but I love television and I love reading/posting about ratings, so I could see where you might think that.

Back on topic, I'm looking forward to the second episode this Thursday. Two 30 Rocks, a new Touch, and a new Awake sounds like an entertaining night to me.
 
Nope, but I love television and I love reading/posting about ratings, so I could see where you might think that.

Back on topic, I'm looking forward to the second episode this Thursday. Two 30 Rocks, a new Touch, and a new Awake sounds like an entertaining night to me.

Hold up. The episode that airs this Thursday is not the pilot?
 
It definitely has that Heroes vibe coming in... I think someone mentioned before it's just like Person of Interest where the kid pulls out a random number of the day, and we get to see how that all connects and is solved hopefully by the end of that episode.

I laughed when Sutherland screamed DAMN IT! I was so hoping to see him say that again.
 
Those numbers bode well for the series's future.

Indeed.

A 3.9 for the preview airing of the pilot and a 2.2 for the repeat has me thinking Fox will be looking at some pretty decent numbers next Friday morning. Enough to wash the bitter taste of The Finder out of their mouths for sure.
 
Indeed.

A 3.9 for the preview airing of the pilot and a 2.2 for the repeat has me thinking Fox will be looking at some pretty decent numbers next Friday morning. Enough to wash the bitter taste of The Finder out of their mouths for sure.

It'll finally give them a drama to put on Monday that can hold its own. I'm still wondering if Kring can pull it off, as the pilot was even too "heartstring pully" for me (and I have a very high tolerance for obvious plays with my emotions).
 
I liked it. It certainly was evocative of Heroes in some parts, but it wasn't, like, too Heroes-y. It has it's own identity is what I'm trying to say, I guess. It fits in nicely with the other shows that I watch.

I like Tim Kring's penchant for global stories/characters, but I'm curious to see how that aspect will be integrated in future episodes. It seems pretty expensive. On Heroes, all of the foreign characters were quickly pulled to America and thus, the exotic sets and stuff were only in the first two or so episodes. But because the theme of the show was about diverse people coming together, that wasn't an issue; but Touch's theme - everyone is connected and their actions can affect anyone, anywhere - is almost the opposite. I think this show needs those foreign (looking) locations way more than Heroes did.

I guess I'm just worried that they won't have the budget to continue with that aspect of the show. Especially if the show gets renewed for a 22 episode second season, but I'm getting a little ahead of myself; I need to see how it works with 13 episodes before I start speculating on how it will work with 22.

Anyway...

The opening is quite good. It's very fitting and I like that it uses elements of the cool poster. (or maybe the poster used elements of the opening!)

My main concern - aside from Tim Kring - is that this feels much more like a film than it does a TV series. Where does it go from here? Is it going to be a procedural where every week the magic numbers solve problems for Japanese hookers or whatever?
 
Sepinwall from HitFix

I've now seen both the episode premiering tomorrow and the one airing next week. Tomorrow's episode confirms all of my fears about the show — if anything, it's even worse than I thought things could get — while next week's maybe rises to mediocrity, and without any of the emotional impact that made me forgive a whole lot of contrivances in the pilot.

>:/
 
Yeah, he savaged it on his podcast this week. I take it with a grain of salt, since he has some pretty bad taste sometimes.

Ah, I haven't listened to the new one yet. And I agree that he has questionable taste; I actually disagree with a lot of what he says but I still respect him and I like to read and listen to his stuff. I hope he's wrong about Touch.
 
That was great. The Russian kid has the same name as the Russian kid from Star Trek; and the part where the old guy was about to jump was shot exactly like It's a Wonderful Life, right from the position of the characters, the position of the camera, and the same exact bridge.
 
Good episode, I love when all the different storylines merge at the end of the episodes. Judging by the preview there is a bigger picture to everything.
 
Pretty good. Don't know what the reviewer was griping about.

Agreed. It didn't blow me away or anything, but it was a solid hour of television, and was pretty much in line with what I thought the show would be like after the pilot.

Sepinwall's review along with The AV Club's giving it a D is pretty ridiculous.
 
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