bgassassin
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It would be very easy to reach that amount minus a new format if they wanted to.
Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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It would be very easy to reach that amount minus a new format if they wanted to.
I haven't seen anyone clamoring for that, although the discussion over whether we should at some point go totally digital with distribution and phase-out physical discs can get pretty heated.
I'm hoping that Sony goes totally nutzo with the level of power in the PS4. Lots and lots of mind-shattering power. Crazy-high power. It'd be perhaps the easiest way for them to differentiate themselves from the competition.
yeah. that's the ticket..
herzogzwei1989
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I don't think Sony will be going with HVD for PS4, they'll stick with high-speed, high-capacity Blu-ray. All the next-gen consoles will be on par in that area, except Nintendo won't allow the playback of Blu-ray movies, which is fine as it's a GAMING console. Netflix, Hulu, HBO, etc will fill in that role somewhat.
We don't even know the framerate of the Wii U DS2 port compared to the PS360 versions. Isn't framerate one of the most basic metrics used to determine 'power'? Vigil's choice to stick with console assets seems more about it not being a modern PC-level device - which nobody was expecting in the first place.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I'd guess a pretty large battery, so 8-12 would be my guess.
It only really has to power the screen and send and receive pretty basic data. It's not comparable to an isolated handheld.
-Pyromaniac-
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hands on say it's very light, I even remember reading one hands on that used the words EXTREMELY light. Keep in mind though these are without battery packs and shit most likely, so I'd wager it'll have some weight, but not a ton.
To mean 'not at all supposedly' in the sense of 'definitely yes'. Just once, but now I'm not sure that I'm not just hallucinating.
Are you saying that total memory size, more than any other aspect of the hardware you might mention, is relevant to the rate of diminishing returns for labor input costs in software production?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Nah, it just means WiiU will switch to an Intel-made GPU at the last second.
Cerebral Assassin
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Does anyone know if Arkham City is being ported in-house or farmed out to another developer?
WB Montreal, last I heard. Probably started proper work on it at the start of this year.
bgassassin
Member
Pyro, someone from IGN said they used it wirelessly and it was still light.
Hallucinating is fun though.
But there may have been a time or two when I've done it and just don't recall when.
Ah, I take it you missed this thread then.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466027
To mean 'not at all supposedly' in the sense of 'definitely yes'. Just once, but now I'm not sure that I'm not just hallucinating.
Hallucinating is fun though.
But there may have been a time or two when I've done it and just don't recall when.Ah, I take it you missed this thread then.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466027
ColdBlooder
Banned
That gives me another idea. Damn im on a roll today
Could it be possible that the uPad could be recharged inductive with the WiiUs
surface. Recharge at night when the console is on standby and play 8 to 12 hours at daytome. For playing and recharching you could still hook up a cable... So it would be completely wireless if you wanted too. I usualy even lay my main controller ontop of my console...
Handys can already be recharged this way!
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Intel's GMA series are some of the most stable/durable/cool-running GPUs out there.
bgassassin
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Cerebral Assassin
Member
That's a bit disappointing.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Makes sense to me. Devs won't want to give up the power nor does it make sense to use so much power on two screens when ur eyes will only be on one. We can easily imagine all the places Nintendo cut on the power to create a different setting.
R
Rösti
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I would be happy if Nintendo provided a wired solution as well, for two purposes:
- Eco-friendliness - Not everyone recycles batteries unfortunately, some people don't do it because they are too lazy to get to a battery disposal bin. They don't have to think about batteries with wires.
- Response time - While there's no huge advantage with wired over wireless, some people prefer a wired solution and if such doesn't cost much to manufacture, why not let them have it?
Speaking about connector cables, what is exactly the "cable" to the Wii U remote Julianne Pepitone is using here: http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.elem...o/technology/2012/01/10/ts_ces_wii_u.cnnmoney
Reggie holds an online Wii U remote at 00:20, but that features no "cable". I assume it's mostly a theft prevention method, but seeing as you can connect a Nintendo 3DS to a monitor (as seen on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon), who knows?
-Pyromaniac-
Member
then there you have it. But was RUMBLE in?!?!!?!
I tried to ignore that thread, although I'm not inherently opposed to the idea that 2GB vs larger pools might successfully segment/differentiate the market high end.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
Rumble is so last gen, so probably.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
You're correct. The ones that want to get a Wii U aren't the problem. I think a large majority of those that want to get Wii U will be happy. They haven't shown they have wild and outrageous expectations. It's primarily the ones that want some huge jump out of PS4 and Xbox 3 that feel the need to jump any and every little bit they can to say "See. Wii U won't be on par with PS4 and Xbox 3" when no one has ever had those expectations... except for jump_button recently and I'm writing that off as him joking about Wii U = Xbox 3.
I like Nintendo games and will probably buy the Wii U but I won't be happy until I see that 99% of multiplatform games make the jump to Wii U. I'm just not spazzing out. But when I see things like the Vigil comment, it just makes me think Nintendo didn't 'lurn'. I know that's a joke to many but I wonder what their rationale for a console of 'decreased power'.
Ultimately, I'm doubtful of all info that has been released (including ideaman's) and just want some confirmation and screens. The ultimate test will be when sony and MS releases their consoles, so we won't have that info for at least 18 months. I just hope Nintendo can release a console that is roughly equivalent to something made over the past few years, not 2006.
I think those upset and vocal about it do want Nintendo games. They may like them a certain amount and don't want to buy a console for <5 games. Or they may like Ninty games a lot and just don't want to drop a ton for another system, especially when MS and sony have dropped the ball a lot over the past few years.
Arkam
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So now that Vigil has come out and said more less the same thing I said. Can I say "I tried to tell y'all"? I was only ever trying to get everyone's expectations more inline with the truth after IGN ran that way way off base rumor. For Nintendo, it will be plenty capable to wow. But 3rd parties will have our work cut out for us... especially once Sony/MS show there hand. But luckily the WiiU is close enough to 360/PS3 that most will be able to port over assets. Just like we did from PS2 to Wii.
The real question is whether Nintendo will provide enough quality first party games to get the consume to by a console that cant out perform their current 360/PS3. If they can do that and sell enough units the first year, they will have plenty of 3rd party support. If not they might be in a sticky situation. But if they can do it with the Wii I am hoping they can do it with the WiiU too.
weren't you the guy that said the Wii U was weaker?
bgassassin
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Nothing wrong at all with wanting actual confirmation. That said I don't think you'll have too much of an issue with what comes out.
Man, you've got to work on having some tact. Your approach is why people go after you.
Arkam
Member
Fair enough. For that I apologize. Its just SOOOO hard to see people get all worked up on BS rumors. But I get your point Im sure i come off as an ass despite my intentions being the opposite.
bgassassin
Member
Which rumors would you consider as BS?
bgassassin
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I skimmed the first page this morning and knew it wasn't worth going further.
Arkam
Member
Well based on certain Metrics, it is weaker. Others it exceeds it. What i said was in relation to the game I was working on and how we would utilize the console. For US it was weaker in jey areas. For Vigil it might be different.
But ultimately I said it was relative to the 360. Just give/take some areas.
Arkam
Member
Any that put the WiiU as anything other than relative to the 360. IGN being the worst offender with their 5x rumor. Got people expecting all ports would be significantly superior ( Like BF3). When in fact they will be just about the same depending on the game.
Personally I don't care about the strength of the consoles because at the end of the day all that matters is the games being made. My problem with your initial take about the strength of the Wii U is that it flatly contradicts what Mark Rein, Colin Bonstead and the guys at Gear box said.
You said it was as strong as the 360 while folks at other dev houses say it is stronger.
AceBandage
Banned
It contradicts everything we've heard from everyone... except for himself.
So AMD stating the GPU is over 1Tflop and Ideaman claiming it to have +/-1.5 GB RAM is BS? Because that's a noticeable jump over 360.
AceBandage
Banned
It also discounts everything lherre has said.
As well as Gearbox, Epic, Ubisoft, Activision, Team Ninja...
Yeah.
You can see why we aren't lining up to believe you, man.
That, and your horrible attitude.
Like you're waiting to scream out "OMG! I TOLD YOU YOU STUPID NINTENDO BOYS!"
bgassassin
Member
Hmm. I don't recall anyone's expectations jumping like that when IGN's Xbox article came out. I think that's been an unfortunate misconception that's continued to permeate for awhile now. I still feel it's a little unfair that you're saying Wii U is weaker due to what seems to be the way your company designed their games for the other consoles.
I enjoy how much of AntiNintendoGAF hugs on Rein's nuts, but then flatly ignores or contradicts him when it provides an opportunity for more yummy Nintendo-bashing. Delicious.
Yeah.. pretty convenient timing. We ask for clarification during the hit-and-run posting phase only to get radio silence, and now after this event (the Vigil comments), this happens? Hmm..
Just a random thought regarding people's desires for sticks on the Subscreen. Assuming the cost isn't prohibitive, maybe we'll see someone like Nyko make a version with a few changes. One with sticks, different colours, alternative button layout (GCN layout maybe) and such things.
bgassassin
Member
In other words something similar to the original design?
Arkam
Member
lherre and I have been chatting for a while and are on the exact same page on this matter. So I do not see how i could be discounting his claims when we both feel the same way.
As for the attitude. Its part me and part being attacked anytime i post on this thread. And I dont think anyone is stupid, just victims of disinformation.
Well, we'll know who's bullshitting whom once Retro shows their new game i suppose. They're artistically and technically talented, and have first hands on info and new devkits. If they're really going all out on graphics as been suggested, we'll know.
Someone should contact Vigil and ask which one of those bozo's was talking out the side of their neck. Contradicting statements coming from within the same company. Which is it.
Someone should contact Vigil and ask which one of those bozo's was talking out the side of their neck. Contradicting statements coming from within the same company. Which is it.
AceBandage
Banned
So, despite you both agreeing it'll have more RAM. A better processor. A more modern GPU. You insist that it's merely on par, and in some ways weaker, than the 360?
See.
That doesn't add up, no matter what math you use.
I'm sorry, but unless you're actually going to explain your situation better, it's just horribly hard to take anything you say as anything other than your own misinformation.