The Hunger Games (Dir. Gary Ross) |OT| May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favor
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malingenie
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Not as much as Katniss' internal musings in the book IMO
My crowd laughed heartily at those.
discoalucard
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Two things established this for me:
(1) She only gives a fuller kiss after being instructed by Haymitch, implying that she's doing it for the show
(2) At the end, when she says she wants to forget, it implies that she didn't care all that much about the romance...but Peeta doesn't want to forget, which means he does.
(2) At the end, when she says she wants to forget, it implies that she didn't care all that much about the romance...but Peeta doesn't want to forget, which means he does.
In the first book she doesn't even particularly have any romantic feelings for Gale either. It's more of a buddy-buddy hunting partner sort of deal. It's clear he does for her though, which is what those cutaways to Gale in the movie we meant to establish.
It's not very long, but there's definitely enough content for two separate films. There's very little filler in Mockingjay, and there are multiple important events happening that you don't watch through Katniss's perspective but that will have to be shown in the films.
It's about the consequences
of Katniss's actions in the Games. It's hard to say more without spoiling stuff.
It's also the best book in the series.
There are no rules, basically.
Okay. I like how both of those sound.
Do you guys think that Jennifer Lawrence is going to be the biggest female star in a few years time? Or is she going to be only attached to this?
Zoe
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I thought it conveyed that she
had feelings for him, or at least that that was the direction their relationship was heading to.
Oh, we all knew early that that was true.
We all just thought it was
typical bad writing or highschool mentality of omgiloveyounow later on.
You're lucky. My theater had a bunch of 12 year old girls going crazy every time they showed him.
Jack Scofield
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What rules? The "rules" seemed completely arbitrary and would change whenever Katniss was in a bad situation, so she NEVER had to make a morally ambiguous decision. It felt like I was watching a live-action version of Calvin Ball.
Me: Well, if Katniss and Peeta are the last two contestants, that means she'll have to kill him. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
Announcer: HEY GUYS NOW THERE ARE TWO WINNERS LOL
Me: wat
Announcer: HEY GUYS NOW THERE ARE TWO WINNERS LOL
Me: wat
I haven't read all 31 pages but could someone explain to me the significance of the hand up with the three fingers raised? If they explained it in the film, I missed it. Use spoiler tags if needed.
Also, I enjoyed the film, though it did feel like the writer was like "oh crap I wrote myself into a corner here, time for some random intervention".
Also, I enjoyed the film, though it did feel like the writer was like "oh crap I wrote myself into a corner here, time for some random intervention".
I just wished it was address by Woody's character in the movie since I've never read the books.
I was watching a review just now and I knew the shaky cam was bad in the action scenes which is forgiveable, but wow I'm just now noticing the shaky cam is pretty persistent in most of the movie.
I think they were trying to make us feel like we were watching the Games instead of watching the movie. Like, not documentary style, but kind of a juxtaposition...
I think you missed something, hahaha.
It's a typical District 12 "farewell" sign meant only to people they appreciate,
but it becomes something else when we see people from District 11 doing it after Rue's death.
Oh yeah, that's true. They don't mention it in the film.
Jack Scofield
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Nah, I understood the movie just fine. I just think its a major cop-out by the author
to write a book about a battle to the death but have two winners.
Man up and write a book that deals with the consequences of death and features an exploration of human morality and psychology in that type of situation. You can't only go halfway like this author does. The book/movie plays it so safe and cowardly it leads me to wonder what compelled the author to write about that subject matter in the first place. If you can't do it justice, write about something else
Maybe they wanted to give the reader the feeling that although they were playing the game, they were also beating the system.
They had to have two winners. If they didn't, they'd have none, and then the whole "Hunger Games balance" would be broken.
And she does a pretty good job of explaining those themes in the remaining books.
That would have destroyed the entire plot that the first book builds up for the rest of the series.
Katniss and Peeta played the system. By choosing to sacrifice themselves instead of killing one another it would have shown up the Capitol and the Games themselves. That's why they couldn't allow that to happen and were forced to declare both winners.
ohhthegore
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ok is this explained in the book but not the movie? is the audience suppose to know what this means or is it something thats suppose to be explained later?
Ignatz Mouse
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I agree that Katniss got to avoid any difficult decisions (most eveybody gets killed by somebody else, she only kills pretty evil people), but that ending, I thought it was *supposed* to feel like a cop-out, only on the part of the Capitol. They screwed up, and the gamesmaster has to take the fall for it. Not all that satisfying as and end point, but from even reading a couple chapters of the second book, it's clear that that's the catylist for a whole lot more goings-on.
Black and white morality in a battle royale between conscripted children? What?
Terrible shaky cam cinematography, halfassed off-camera action for PG-13. Shake the camera while two indistinguishable white blonde haired dudes in black jumpsuits grapple, the end.
Katniss doesn't need to make any difficult choices, and goes through the whole thing basically just acting in self defense once and otherwise being saved via plot contrivance. Things like the sponsorship prizes seem to be included in order to make writing the scenario a lot more convenient for the author.
If you're going to subjugate a people through a battle to the death between their children...how is it that an adorable kid dying stirs a riot that the techno government is wholly unprepared for? That should be business as usual.
Magic beardogs materializing from the ether are not set up appropriately by big televisions and maglev trains.
Spent about five dollars slapping render on the screen for a second and called it a day, for the capital city. The world-building in general doesn't do its job, never a great sense of how it all connects.
Terrible shaky cam cinematography, halfassed off-camera action for PG-13. Shake the camera while two indistinguishable white blonde haired dudes in black jumpsuits grapple, the end.
Katniss doesn't need to make any difficult choices, and goes through the whole thing basically just acting in self defense once and otherwise being saved via plot contrivance. Things like the sponsorship prizes seem to be included in order to make writing the scenario a lot more convenient for the author.
If you're going to subjugate a people through a battle to the death between their children...how is it that an adorable kid dying stirs a riot that the techno government is wholly unprepared for? That should be business as usual.
Magic beardogs materializing from the ether are not set up appropriately by big televisions and maglev trains.
Spent about five dollars slapping render on the screen for a second and called it a day, for the capital city. The world-building in general doesn't do its job, never a great sense of how it all connects.
Keylime
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My wife is totally one of the people who "WTF'd" Cinna and Rue's casting. Forwarded this article and called her a racist :lol
Didn't realize the book actually described them as dark skinned anyways (although it's a single sentence in the whole book and Rue is only truly identified when compared to the other dude)
Either way, dumb thing to get upset about. In a movie that has a truly likable female lead, let's bitch about race!
Fixed1979
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While I agree with most of your post...
Besides the comparison you made above to BR I don't feel there's much else to say. Two films with a similar plot driver, shit happens all the time.
While Katniss was guided through this book/movie, decisions do come later on. At the same time her being guided and being told what to do become a important plot point in future books, I do think some of that was being set up here.
RE:how is it that an adorable kid dying stirs a riot that the techno government is wholly unprepared for? That should be business as usual.
I'm assuming you're talking about Rue? It's not that she died that causes a riot it's what Katniss does during and after the death.
The "Magic bearogs" have been brought up several times. You either buy into the fact that this is an arena fully controlled by District 1 or you don't...
Ignatz Mouse
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People are funny.
I actually pictured Katniss as dark-skinned-- the book says olive-skinned, so I kinda made her to look Middle-Eastern in my mind. I totally missed/forgot that Rue was described with brown skin in the book, I pictured her as caucasian. Not that I had an issue with the casting of anybody. The casting was fantastic overall. But it's interesting that I made the same substitution in my head for Rue as a bunch of racists.
malingenie
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It is my main problem with the book too. It's just not there.
Keylime
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When I saw how short the books were, I figured they had to be cutting corners somewhere.
Sucks.
Squall ASF
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Just saw this yesterday, haven't read the books. I enjoyed the film though it's certainly over hyped. It entertained me enough to check out the sequel. They must have done a good job because as someone that hasn't read any of the series, I had no questions. There wasn't a single thing that didn't make sense to me. They probably could have done a quick bit on how the government can create anything they want inside the arena real quick but you obviously get that from the action scenes.
I expect the next one to be far more interesting with all the political play and pressure the President will add. I'm guessing he'll find some way to toss Kitniss into another Hunger Game to try and rid of her. Plus, I can't imagine there's two more entries to the series without a hunger game. Not looking for a reader of the books to say if that's the case or not.
Probably the only main complaint was the shaky camera but I ultimate just have to accept it because they are not going to show children brutally murder each other in a PG 13 movie. Not sure what people were expecting. I think cutting away constantly would be even more annoying. Not sure that there's a viable solution for this. Battle Royale went straight for R.
I initially thought the flames were fake to scare her back into the boundaries until she was wounded. Didn't think they'd try to kill her (fireballs). President was afraid of what she represents pretty damn quickly.
Probably the only main complaint was the shaky camera but I ultimate just have to accept it because they are not going to show children brutally murder each other in a PG 13 movie. Not sure what people were expecting. I think cutting away constantly would be even more annoying. Not sure that there's a viable solution for this. Battle Royale went straight for R.
I somewhat agree with this until I thought about it for a little bit. From the point Katniss volunteered to save Prim, the whole game (no pun intended) changed.
Her sacrifice to spare her 12 year-old sister really brought out something in everyone. In the book, it's replayed to all of the districts, so everyone knows what happened. And then when Katniss shows that emotion and regret over not being able to save Rue, people saw that the games were not the entertainment that everyone took them for.
VeryGooster
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Book 3 spoilers:
Looking forward to/predicting rage from people about the muttations in Mockingjay. I actually forgot what they were. Like white lizard people or something?
These people should definitely not be hunted down and murdered. It would be a very violent justice-mad individual to even consider such a thing, but it would definitely be wrong and not good for the human race.
Throw these people into an arena and let's watch them kill eachother as entertainment.
LQX
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I don't see how so many seemingly missed the fact Rue was described as black. The book also emphasizes that she is a good climber and I remember thinking to myself that wont translate well to the big screen as it might cause an uproar. Never figured the uproar would come from the fact some would be upset she is not white.
Unfortunately that's the case. It's not even well written and I hate how it's going to be portrayed on the movie screen. It might be better if we don't deal with Katniss's internal monologues.
More of a headsup to everybody, this series (atleast through book two) is not about hard choices. At all. It's about romance.
Of All Trades
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But iirc she wasn't described as black, she was described as non-white, and the few details of life in D11 were so over-the-top in describing 19th century plantation life that I veered away from the childish obviousness, and assumed Rue looked more like the demographic that Mexican migrant farm workers are (indigenous mix? I'm trying to find the correct term but failing).
Also, I envisioned Peeta as vaguely Indian due to the name (think Deepak, so imagine my surprise when I saw the stills), and thus operated on the idea that a future post-uber-calamity society wouldn't have regions with current kinds of ethnic striations. And it's not like the South is majority black or that interracial marriages aren't become rapidly more common. Just because D12 is supposed to be future-Harlan County doesn't mean it should literally be Harlan County.
Yeah. 1 month ban, Evilore.
Gamer @ Heart
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I am re reading it now and that is only really true for the first third while she tries to reconcile what her life is now. After that, the bigger theme about the capital is the center.
People actually complained about this? Idon'twanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg
The movie was underwhelming, and I had no idea going into it that it was a "tween" film that brought in the Twilight-esque crowd. In all fairness the crowd didn't ruin the movie for me, it was the predictability and "lowest common denominator" feeling I got from it. Everything was telegraphed and offered no surprises, and this is coming from someone who hasn't read the books. I seen it for free since my girlfriend got tickets from a friend, so I didn't completely hate it I guess...
The best part was they didn't show a Prometheus trailer at the beginning! Still spoiler free!
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Seeing that trailer in a theatre was definitely one of the highlights of seeing this movie. Man Prometheus is going to be so boss.
I watched the teaser trailer, decided it was going to be the greatest movie ever and have been on a black out ever since. I'm so hype.
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