herzogzwei1989
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Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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Rösti
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While not specifically connected to Wii U, this article featuring the views of Ben Cousins takes a jab at Nintendo's philosophy regarding free-to-play content: http://www.develop-online.net/news/40330/Platform-holders-running-scared-of-free-to-play
This is from the interview the above article is based:
The last remark there I find interesting, that he finds the billion dollar investments in new hardware is no longer sustainable. Goes hand in hand with the general conception that Wii U is no powerhouse to combat the next generation systems from Microsoft and Sony respectively. While I doubt Nintendo's going to do a shout out to free-to-play titles day one, maybe they are looking into some hybrid with some games costing 25-50¢; of course no big titles but perhaps they would let indie studios have such prices for their games if WiiUWare is a reality. Or something as Pong or Centipede/Millipede could be sold for that. I can definately see Nintendo wanting to do something with this market.
This is from the interview the above article is based:
Source: http://www.develop-online.net/features/1600/Ben-Cousins-Consoles-will-adapt-or-die
The last remark there I find interesting, that he finds the billion dollar investments in new hardware is no longer sustainable. Goes hand in hand with the general conception that Wii U is no powerhouse to combat the next generation systems from Microsoft and Sony respectively. While I doubt Nintendo's going to do a shout out to free-to-play titles day one, maybe they are looking into some hybrid with some games costing 25-50¢; of course no big titles but perhaps they would let indie studios have such prices for their games if WiiUWare is a reality. Or something as Pong or Centipede/Millipede could be sold for that. I can definately see Nintendo wanting to do something with this market.
GameplayWhore
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Holy shit, really? Haha, wow, the state of mobile gaming is worse than I thought.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Man, I buy a lot of games on the iPhone and this is patently untrue.
Your Mii looks like he's tripping balls.
What would your face look like when Iwata pops up out of nowhere right in front of you :lol
Saint Gregory
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Reggie is the update. He's rearranging the insides of your 3DS right now infact.And the new Reggie looks different too. Stealth update incoming?! :O!!
I notice that he sort of implies that the games that sell the most "under Nintendo's system" do so because of some kind of marketing wizardry or cronyism instead of the games actually being good enough to sell a lot. Perhaps we can ask him if he thinks Smash Brothers or NSMB Wii are bad games that only sold a lot because of backroom deals instead of them being quality software?
I want the Iwata Mii...
Smiles and Cries
Member
WiiU Mii Plaza needs to be a whole damn town they need to do something special if they are going to keep these guys in HD land
I'll be camping out for a preorder. As soon as the day of preorders is announced, I'll take the days around it off from work, and I'll arrive at my GameStop on the night before at around 11pm, like I've done the last few times. I always end-up in the top 3 spots this way, and it ends-up being a pretty fun night. It'll be nice to have an internet-linked iPad this time around; I'll just hang-out on GAF all night!
Rösti;36411838 said:
Ben Cousins says Nintendo doesn't understand the industry.
Yet they are generation after generation making more money than anyone else in the industry, I think Ben Cousins needs context, sure they are slow to adapt to the market, but as the market leader, they have always shown the real future of gaming... D-pad, shoulder buttons, analog sticks, z-targeting, rumble, motion controls, DS... They don't invent as much as they innovate. Honestly without Nintendo, I think the industry would be in huge trouble.
I just find the slant against Nintendo is always so vocal that it doesn't really make sense...
Thanks for always posting interesting tidbits.
Would be nice if it's like a hub of sorts with different rooms; were you meet people and can add them to your friend list through there.
And if they're scared of predators, etc...parent-lock the hell out of it.
GameplayWhore
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..."my update is Reggie"?
What they mean is that Nintendo doesn't do all the same things that most of the other companies have generally jointly agreed to do. This is in some ways a valid complaint, but it's a terrible statement to make as an across-the-board criticism.
"THIS FUCKING COMPANY WILL NEVER LEARN" - Ben Cousins
lol
I bet Mr. Cousins would probably appreciate Nintendo's independent streak considering Nintendo took all the "gimmick" and "casual" licks for introducing touchscreen focused gaming, which various Phones and Pads (and the indie studios that support them) enjoy the fruits of today.
It's a strange irony to see, indie developers not liking Nintendo because they aren't in lockstep with their hardware competitors on all factors and vectors.
GameplayWhore
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It does perhaps matter that Nintendo is in a "halfway zone". They're explicitly in the market for dedicated game players, and these players might feel threatened by the idea that their particular niche of the market is being forced to change. The tablet and phones and such? That's in some other market which doesn't directly alter how they play their consoles and such. They can even buy an iPhone on the side, knowing that Apple isn't modifying the hallowed sixth-gen controller in their living room in even the slightest manner.
I'm finally arriving at the point where a part of me is enjoying the blatantly anti-Nintendo slant. Such a vast portion of the industry and its surrounding media seem to want Nintendo - the one remaining gaming-centric console maker - to fail, and to watch their annoyance as Nintendo defiantly continues not only to exist but to thrive as well? That's some delicious shit right there.
I can only imagine the shrill, dramatic, teary-eyed cries of "it should've been Nintendo" and "if there were any justice in the world, it would've been Nintendo" if one of their competitors should ever exit the industry.. haha..
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I'm sure if the internet existed back in 1889, forums would be full of:
"Nintendo's playing cards suck! They're doomed! Why can't they be more like [insert rival card designer here]?"
"Nintendo's playing cards suck! They're doomed! Why can't they be more like [insert rival card designer here]?"
AceBandage
Banned
That makes me miss the "Fish x Bear" topics on GAF.
do u read your post before you submit them?
The times of the great salmon bear
Amazon had a get it on launch day thing for KI:U and it worked very well if they can do that for the hardware I'll stick with them but I do rather pull all my money down someplace and know that its paid for so some bills do not eat up my WiiU monies
Nintendo launches new hardware on Sundays. Amazon will not have it to you until the day after launch, at the earliest.
POWERSPHERE
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The app stores featured games are as corrupt as they get, it totally deflates his point.
Did you see what the Sonifanuda cards are going to look like?! That cardboard costs a lot to make, and they're selling each deck at a huge loss! How in the hell are they going to make their money back?!
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I really don't get the Nintendo hate. I must admit, when I first joined a gaming forum after playing Nintendo consoles for a while, I was shocked by it.
I'd really like to know why Nintendo are so awful that everyone apparently wants them to fail.
If Nintendo had dared to offer something as bad as the "PS Vita Game Heaven" broadcast, the net would be raging - yet, when Sony do it, they get a free pass. Apart from this site, I haven't seen a single gaming blog saying "You know that Vita Game Heaven broadcast? Terrible, wasn't it?"
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
The place would be a lot sadder, but the idea that the industry would be in trouble? I don't think that's true. But anyways...
I do like competition though - but it's a double edged sword. As a multi console owner, I personally don't want Sony and MS to try and out inovate Nintendo in the alternative controller space. For me , i have set expectations of what i'm getting and Nintendo's roll in that is new ideas and innovative thinking with regards to non-traditional upgrades (not CPU/GPU) coupled with their first party, i don't want Sony and MS to move anything away from their usual CPU/GPU upgrade angle to combat Nintendo because i -have- Nintendo providing that sort of fun already.
Hmm - not sure if i'm making that point very well
An interview of some developers concerning the first year of the 3DS, with interesting comments about the eShop
It's somewhat related to what we can expect from the Nintendo Network on Wii U and the discussion we had earlier about the positioning of the brand in regard to "little" downloadable games/apps, etc.
It's somewhat related to what we can expect from the Nintendo Network on Wii U and the discussion we had earlier about the positioning of the brand in regard to "little" downloadable games/apps, etc.
AceBandage
Banned
Nice to see awesome games do well on the eShop.
lol thats funny ha ha
For me, the eShop is a gold mine both for customers and developers.
I remember being concerned about the eShop few weeks after the thing has been launched. But if they keep releasing quality games on it then this will only get better and better.
Guess this is what Reggie meant said that they won't allow every "garage developer" to release his stuff on it.
I remember being concerned about the eShop few weeks after the thing has been launched. But if they keep releasing quality games on it then this will only get better and better.
Guess this is what Reggie meant said that they won't allow every "garage developer" to release his stuff on it.
GameplayWhore
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Correct! I even generally check my grammar.
Let's develop an eShop/NiN game ! Let's make a GAF team ! I'll be a producer & content designer, i'll do some irritating teases and obscure french references that will attract tons of new consumers
I'm serious, there's a bunch of creative-minds around here, we must use these for an innovative & fun project !
yeah, that wasn't what i was getting at
ViewtifulJC
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It's kinda like that GF that used to be madly in love with. You were totally inseperatable, completely comfortable with each other, shared all your stupid stories with, had your sense of humor, got along with the parents, everything was sunshine and rainbows.
But over the years, you started to like her less and less. Things she used to do for you, she doesn't do anymore. That favorite activity you guys did together, she got bored of that, and now all your friends are doing it. Meanwhile, she's taken up a hobby of knitting sweaters for cats and buying an electric car because of the dangers of Global Warming. It gets to the point that all you can do is reminisce about the good old days, and that point you just break it off and find somebody else, like that Sony girl next door, who recently took up your old favorite hobbies you used to do.
And ever since then, you just don't like her whenever you see her in your social circle. Every now and then, you see something about her that makes you remember why you fell in love, but its just not the same. It's not good enough anymore. And it's so much worse because your friends keep talking about her like she's so awesome. I mean, every time someone namedrops her or she shows up, she's the center of fucking attention, it makes you sick at all the wasted potential. "Oh man, isn't she amazing!?" Fuck you dude, she isn't amazing anymore, and she hasn't been in years. So screw her, and screw whatever she is doing. It's gonna suck.
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Rösti
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There are a few projects going on where various NeoGAF members collaborate to create a game. As for an eShop or Nintendo Network game, I think that would be impossible seeing what requirements Nintendo has on companies that are interested in developing games for their platforms. That is anyway if work should be done from our respective homes. A one man operation could be deemed possible though as finding a secure office facility isn't that difficult, a bunker would suffice for example.Let's develop an eShop/NiN game ! Let's make a GAF team ! I'll be a producer & content designer, i'll do some irritating teases and obscure french references that will attract tons of new consumers
I'm serious, there's a bunch of creative-minds around here, we must employ these for an innovative & fun project !
Let's develop an eShop/NiN game ! Let's make a GAF team ! I'll be a producer & content designer, i'll do some irritating teases and obscure french references that will attract tons of new consumers
I'm serious, there's a bunch of creative-minds around here, we must use these for an innovative & fun project !
Name: Nintendo Ninja
Gameplay concept: You have to try to find all insiders and shut thoses motherfuckers down. The game is over when specs have been leaked.
You can unlock Iwata, Miyamoto and Reggie - Reggie can blind enemies with his chin and Iwata uses his money printing 3DS to kill off insiders. Miyamoto's special attack is to kidnap those insiders and make a game of them.
Plus there is a special bar at the bottom screen which - when filled up - can be activated. This lets the GAF HYPE train roll through the scene and kill every enemy on screen while a voice screams "DOOOOOOOMED!"
And instead of coins you have to collect Wii U logos :lol
That's pretty much about the same maturity level of the people said analogy is referencing...
just face it dude, even with your troll like analogy that i didn't read because i lost interest in the middle of it, can't give any legitimate reason for disliking Nintendo. Out of all the things Nintendo does wrong, the mistakes they do make that are obvious, they're nowhere near deserving of the lies and slander people put on them. let's just face it, ever since a company who will remain nameless for the sake of being banned started the "Nintendo is kiddie" campaign in 6th gen, it's been the same ever since.
GameplayWhore
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The truly amusing thing about this particular viewpoint is that Nintendo was a dickmove machine at the start. Publishers were limited in how many games they were allowed to make per year, the approval process per game was much more stringent, agreements were harsh and prevented cross platform development (I'm not fully sure about this one, but that's an impression I strongly got). If this is what the honeymoon was like, it's not all too confusing why some game makers ran away as soon as reasonable competition came on the scene.
Rösti;36414420 said:
Yeah i've seen some topics about that, but maybe a team more centered around the Nintendo universe/gameplay approach, with folks from this thread, etc. For the requirements, i know it wasn't too difficult to have a DS dev kit back in the days and friends of mine with not a lot of money, etc, have developed for it. But yeah, we surely can't knock on the Big N door through an individual and amateurish initiative and make a dd game for them as easily as that. Perhaps we could start to dig our hole via iOs/Android/PC download first ? Then Nintendo will buy us !
I hope it will calm you down
Why the Wii U Could Be Nintendo's Demise, the 540541th article of that kind