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[Femmeworth]

 

[Woo-Fu]

They want to make more money. Not less, not the same, only more will do. Makes it hard for me to find any connection whatsoever between MSRP and quantity/cost of DLC. There is none, as far as I can tell. Before we had DLC we had expansions. Did expansions---which typically cost even more than most DLC---result in lower MSRP? No.

If MSRP were to go down it would be due to competition from other platforms, not because of DLC. Cheaper alternatives, less hassle, the platform holders are going to go down with the ship, just a matter of time.

 

[Suairyu]

In an all-digital future, there won't be any bombas. Pay $70 or you find another hobby.

No demos either. Buy the game if you want to play it.

Cool. Luckily, that all-digital future for consoles is not going to be a reality for at least another 10 years, and even that is a generously short estimate.

PC Gaming on the other hand will be all-digital soon, at a guess, but the PC market set the standard early on that you need to discount your product.

 

[5amshift]

If anything games will retail for $10 more. They're already trying this on the handhelds.

And you see how fast they are dropping prices? They are dropping prices on pretty much all current gen games 1 month or so later after release.

 

[out0v0rder]

Cool. Luckily, that all-digital future for consoles is not going to be a reality for at least another 10 years, and even that is a generously short estimate.

PC Gaming on the other hand will be all-digital soon, at a guess, but the PC market set the standard early on that you need to discount your product.

i think you mean, "price your product correctly".

 

[Killthee]

 

[Imperial Hot]

$70 games is absurd. There is no way game prices go up. If anything, current market trends show that a cheap initial investment with a lot of DLC or microtransactions yields the best return. Not enough people would pay $70 for a game for this to be financially feasible.

 

[BHZ Mayor]

If anything, prices are gonna go up.

 

[EviLore]

I've provided an exclusive one-of-a-kind digital lithographic artwork print, I mean a jpeg, for illustrative purposes:

 

[neenja_jenkins]

Not a f#cking chance.

 

[Lime]

@the ME3 picture: 60 USD for a digitally distributed, rushed and crappy PC port without day-1 DLC.

If anyone had told me this ten years ago I would laugh heartily.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

What's great about the Mechdog is that it does nothing

If it had been a companion, I would have gotten the digital deluxe edition so fast

 

[Ushojax]

 

[Nibel]

The ME3 picture makes me sad.

Man, I really hope that EA becomes the worst company of America in that election thing :lol

 

[udivision]

I still find it funny people on GAF are naive enough to believe publishers would ever pass on savings to the consumer.

How is charging you more for DLC "passing on the savings"?

 

[AdmiralSnackbar]

I've provided an exclusive one-of-a-kind digital lithographic artwork print, I mean a jpeg, for illustrative purposes:

http://www.abjecthubris.com/images/masseffect3digitallithograph.jpg[img][/QUOTE]

Does the one of a kind jpeg at least have a unique serial number in the exif data, or perhaps a downloadable certificate of authenticity.

 

[Akuun]

Nope, absolutely not.

$100-120 for limited edition
$70-80 for day 1 standard edition
$10-30 for DLC

 

[razgriz417]

lol @ OP, its only going to go up... T.T

 

[SoulPlaya]

Please, lol.

 

[Sax_Man]

Remember when we got PS1 games $10 cheaper than the previous generation because CDs cost about $1 to produce, versus about $30 for a cartridge?

Boy, that sure was short-lived.

 

[Corky]

Where.... where is it... when I need it the most...

*scrounges*

...found it.

 

[Escape Goat]

I miss the 90 dollar SNES games.

 

[Rebel Leader]

I miss the 90 dollar SNES games.

Back when it was cheap

 

[GuitarAtomik]

There's no way I'm paying $70 day one for a game next gen unless it's something HUGE and guaranteed to be great. I'm pretty sure the market is realizing that $60 for anything other than a Call of Duty level franchise this gen is pushing it. At least I hope it does do.

 

[toddhunter]

All signs point to no

 

[Plinko]

I miss the 90 dollar SNES games.

Except those two games that I recall being $80 (Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI) were actually worth that $80.

 

[ShdwDrake]

No. Games will be $70 next gen with $20 day 1 DLC.

Sadly this seems plausible.

 

[Corky]

I miss the 90 dollar SNES games.

I bet you miss these days as well...

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

No. Games will be $70 next gen with $20 day 1 DLC.

this is so funny cause it could be true Gears 3 launched at 59.99 with 30$ season pass DLC -_-

 

[Torraz]

No. Games will be $70 next gen with $20 day 1 DLC.

Don't forget the $30 season pass and the additonal $20 (true) ending DLC.

 

[Deadstar]

In an all-digital future, there won't be any bombas. Pay $70 or you find another hobby.

No demos either. Buy the game if you want to play it.

Yes, unless companies want to make money. Steam generates a ton of revenue during a sale.

 

[MikeE21286]

If nobody is buying your game and the only/main revenue stream is digtal then this will facilitate sales. Companies are in the business of making money not dying.

 

[Goldrusher]

Yes, unless companies want to make money. Steam generates a ton of revenue during a sale.

Steam only has sales because the publishers don't sell anything without them.

If those sales "generate a ton of revenue", we would've had them on PSN and XBLA many times as well. But we haven't, so they don't.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Publishers don't have to make all their monies upfront these days, so do you think any possible $10 increase in the MSRP of games will just become $10's worth of DLC in your average game? Or is it possible that we'll move to $69.99 games?

EDIT: As in, the MSRP stays 59.99, but DLC becomes more aggressive to the point where you're paying at least $10 just to get the "full" game in most games.

No way. $70-$85 games with day one $20 DLC is inevitable.

 

[MikeE21286]

Steam only has sales because the publishers don't sell anything without them.

If those sales generated "a ton of revenue", why don't we have them on PSN and XBLA ?

Just spit-balling here, but perhaps the reaction to sales on PSN and XBLA is far smaller than the reaction on Steam to sales since the players on consoles are far less trained to buying full games digitally.

 

[raven777]

I dont think we will be able to play a "full game" with $59.99 next gen..

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

All signs point to no

Yep. This is DD at it's finest. That's why I refuse to support a DD only future. Siren is still $40 on PSN and it came out like 3 to 4 years ago if I remember correctly. Ridiculous. Prepare to see a lot of that if DD becomes the standard.

 

[udivision]

Thanks for the better title, should be more clear.

 

[Emitan]

Everyone needs to check out Steam. Consoles are doing it wrong.

 

[Duxxy3]

I bet you miss these days as well...

My god, what would i do with all that space?

 

[toastyToast]

Steam only has sales because the publishers don't sell anything without them.

If those sales "generate a ton of revenue", we would've had them on PSN and XBLA many times as well. But we haven't, so they don't.

People who want to buy things buy do so outside of sales. When the sales come around, people who have no intention of buying anything buy things they don't want and will never play

It's genius.

 

[Goldrusher]

Just spit-balling here, but perhaps the reaction to sales on PSN and XBLA is far smaller than the reaction on Steam to sales since the players on consoles are far less trained to buying full games digitally.

What reaction ? To what ?

Look at this "sale" currently on PSN:

It's a joke. During a Steam sale, all of those games would cost you less than $10.
In fact, $10 would probably be the grand total for all of them.

Rockstar had such a sale only recently. Every single GTA game, for a total of $10.

 

[Stumpokapow]

I updated the title because people were responding to the title rather than the OP.

 

[udivision]

I updated the title because people were responding to the title rather than the OP.

Thanks, I should've been more clear.

Overall, I'm a little surprised that most people think it's a forgone conclusion that things will only get worse. I guess it makes sens though, considering recent practices.

 

[Emitan]

Thanks, I should've been more clear.

Overall, I'm a little surprised that most people think it's a forgone conclusion that things will only get worse. I guess it makes sens though, considering recent practices.

Because they'll do whatever they can get away with. And they're getting away fine right now, so they'll only ramp it up.

 

[Orayn]

Because they'll do whatever they can get away with. And they're getting away fine right now, so they'll only ramp it up.

At the same time, they're not stupid. I'd hazard a guess that EA makes more money and has an easier time selling a $60 game with a online pass and DLC shortly after release than they would by just jacking the price up to $70.

 

[alstein]

$70 games is absurd. There is no way game prices go up. If anything, current market trends show that a cheap initial investment with a lot of DLC or microtransactions yields the best return. Not enough people would pay $70 for a game for this to be financially feasible.

There are a few genres where this would work. Historical wargames, fighting games, RPGs.

 

[Wiseblade]

I updated the title because people were responding to the title rather than the OP.

Even still, many people, including myself are expecting software price to increase going into the next generation. 3DS and Vita software prices being higher than their predecessors doesn't alleviate fears either.

 

[Eusis]

It's a joke. During a Steam sale, all of those games would cost you less than $10.

That's pretty reasonable for a price drop though. Not like you see Oblivion permanently marked down to $5 or anything, just for a one day sale or something.

 

[IcyRhythms]

I love Steam