Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes

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BurntPork said:
Why? It's not like it'll change this guy's mind, especially since he probably already knows. He's just being childish and stupid, and Nintendo has far more important things to deal with than rebutting a couple of tweets.
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I'd have to agree. The odds of a professional developer knowing less than random forum people is pretty low. Either he already knows and felt the need to tweet troll, or he is ignorant of the process of a company he seems to not like.

Considering he laced his criticism with trolling, and was criticizing elements of WiiWare that are no longer true of Nintendo's Digital platforms, he comes across as an ignorant hater.

And since he is now perceived as an ignorant hater, he must work to rectify this image, as we all know one's reputation is in one's own hands.

Nintendo must of ran over many people's dogs and have plenty of enemies because of it
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Well you never really know what will cause offense these days. I remember BOSS Game Studios Waaaaaaaaay back in 1998 having a hissy fit with Nintendo because they released 1080 Snowboard in between their initial projected release date and their revised release dat for their game Twisted Edge Snowboarding. Like Nintendo had the temerity to release a video game that was in the same genre as theirs. And People liked it better! Those fiends.

Anyway the Two Guys From Andromeda reunion shows that individuals and companies can get over petty bullshit, because those two guys hated each other, and yet they seem to have put it aside. Maybe the same will apply in this situation.
 
Aostia said:
You know what?
I agree that Nintendo really needs to increase their relationship with third parties.
They should do something, for sure.
But if a developers says those things, well I think that the main problem is on third party side in this case. Those are just excuses and nonsense, as the ones underlined for the 360 versions.

I understand your point, and I understand the need to increase the quality of the relationship between N and western developers, but I don't think that they (N) or we (gaffers) should always look at third parties as "perfect", and still be able to distinguish between the different situations we are allowed to read through the web.

If N made mistakes with third parties (and I think that they did a lot of mistakes in the past), well best solution should have been to "tweet" simply the truth, and not some bullshits as the ones he pointed out against the Wii (or the 360 controller..obviously another excuse)
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Ken Levine spoke publicly against adding Move support to Bioshock: Infinite. Sony gave him a call, explained the device and showed him how it works and now Bioshock: Infinite will have Move support.

This is how you get third party studios to support your system. You talk to the creative people and you talk to the business people, and when you have convinced both sides you'll get a game.

Nintendo doesn't seem like they're actively engaging in that sort of activity and if so they will continue to get ignored by the studios and publishers that made the 360 and PS3 successful this generation.
 
Massa said:
Ken Levine spoke publicly against adding Move support to Bioshock: Infinite. Sony gave him a call, explained the device and showed him how it works and now Bioshock: Infinite will have Move support.

This is how you get third party studios to support your system. You talk to the creative people and you talk to the business people, and when you have convinced both sides you'll get a game.

Nintendo doesn't seem like they're actively engaging in that sort of activity and if so they will continue to get ignored by the studios and publishers that made the 360 and PS3 successful this generation.
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Whoa, what? We don't know anything about what Nintendo is doing behind the scenes.

All we have to go by is the fact that a lot of big third-party publishers will be releasing their titles on the Wii-U, as was shown last year at E3.
 
yeah its Nintendo's fault some dude on twitter trolls so he can get lots of attention for his game that would not have been talked about on IGN or a WiiU thread without said ignorant post getting fanboys all bothered

Nintendo should call them up and beg them to tweet some facts and company hype so that we can all feel better

smooch smooch
 
Massa said:
Ken Levine spoke publicly against adding Move support to Bioshock: Infinite. Sony gave him a call, explained the device and showed him how it works and now Bioshock: Infinite will have Move support.

This is how you get third party studios to support your system. You talk to the creative people and you talk to the business people, and when you have convinced both sides you'll get a game.

Nintendo doesn't seem like they're actively engaging in that sort of activity and if so they will continue to get ignored by the studios and publishers that made the 360 and PS3 successful this generation.
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The difference in this case being that Bioshock Infinite was already a PS3 game, and Ken Levine didn't say stuff about giant enemy crabs along with it.

And using Ken Levine himself, he was approached by Nintendo to simply talk about the Wii U, even though he has not and still hasn't announced any sort of software for it.

I think Nintendo's been reaching out to third parties. Just because a few slap the hand away doesn't mean Nintendo's been secretive and snooty and arrogant or whatever.
 
Massa said:
Ken Levine spoke publicly against adding Move support to Bioshock: Infinite. Sony gave him a call, explained the device and showed him how it works and now Bioshock: Infinite will have Move support.

This is how you get third party studios to support your system. You talk to the creative people and you talk to the business people, and when you have convinced both sides you'll get a game.

Nintendo doesn't seem like they're actively engaging in that sort of activity and if so they will continue to get ignored by the studios and publishers that made the 360 and PS3 successful this generation.
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As I already stated, I think that Nintendo needs to change and improve a lot in terms of third party relationships.
But I confirm you that under my point of view, it's not that third party are always right.
I think that if we are interested in reading "tweets" we should also be able to have our opinions on dev talks.

Plus: I'm not saying that Nintendo should leave him alone, or counter attack. It's always better when HWhouses and developers find a solution, in order to offer their products to the vast majority of consumers.

I'm just saying that: the reasons he gave are bullshits; probably there are other reasons (related to the Nintendo-way-of-work with other publishers), so he should have stated the real reasons.

Or, if those are the real reasons, I think that he deserves this:

IdeaMan said:
http://www.jeuxactu.com/baldur-s-gate-sur-wii-u-80105.htm
It's already unleashed on french websites lol
The guy will feel some backfire. With the correct and gentlemen reactions to have against his tweets, he'll apologize and develop a pretty BG for Wii U :p
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IdeaMan said:
http://www.jeuxactu.com/baldur-s-gate-sur-wii-u-80105.htm

It's already unleashed on french websites lol

The guy will feel some backfire. With the correct and gentlemen reactions to have against his tweets, he'll apologize and develop a pretty BG for Wii U :p
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Mmh, I think he should keep his game. It's like Just Add Water's CEO who said he doesn't like Nintendo because third parties fail to sell their games... The only game he made on a Nintendo plateform was that shovelware which sold 200k:
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/jeux/nintendo-ds/00019585-arctic-tale.htm

So, I have enough of people complaining although they just release shit.
 
GhostTrick said:
Mmh, I think he should keep his game. It's like Just Add Water's CEO who said he doesn't like Nintendo because third parties fail to sell their games... The only game he made on a Nintendo plateform was that shovelware which sold 200k:
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/jeux/nintendo-ds/00019585-arctic-tale.htm

So, I have enough of people complaining although they just release shit.
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Hey, the boxart is cute :p

And in this case, we're talking about Baldur's Gate, the material is already legendary (well, they could maybe still screw this edition...) i would be pleased to try a touch version for a low price on Wii U :)

But i understand how the guy declaration can get on the nerves of a lot of people.
 
GhostTrick said:
Mmh, I think he should keep his game. It's like Just Add Water's CEO who said he doesn't like Nintendo because third parties fail to sell their games... The only game he made on a Nintendo plateform was that shovelware which sold 200k:
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/jeux/nintendo-ds/00019585-arctic-tale.htm

So, I have enough of people complaining although they just release shit.
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this is the same type of mentality like that abe's oddissey guy, stewart gilray....
 
Talking about E3 presentation:

with MarioMii and Pikmin3 leaked (or confirmed?) and the "third party cold mood" we are looking at, what do you think will be the focus of the presentation on the E3 floor?

I mean: if we should imagine a "weak" third party support and two games already pre-announced, I think that the main focus could be something else from first party teams.

What's your bet?
 
Maxrunner said:
I did respond to him, but he got cold feet...
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Tell him: "not a very intelligent move ! By the reactions your statement generated on the web, you managed to antagonized thousands of potential customers who have been waiting for Baldur's Gate news and happen to be Nintendo fans also ! You have to think carefully before your next step in this E-Drama !"

And...to hell the characters limits of twitter :p
 
Aostia said:
Talking about E3 presentation:

with MarioMii and Pikmin3 leaked (or confirmed?) and the "third party cold mood" we are looking at, what do you think will be the focus of the presentation on the E3 floor?

I mean: if we should imagine a "weak" third party support and two games already pre-announced, I think that the main focus could be something else from first party teams.

What's your bet?
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I certainly wouldn't say there is a third-party cold mood, on the contrary, some of them have never been so much active in previous Nintendo platforms. Yes, there are bad news here and there, but their reach is rather limited.

I'm expecting the longest and most frenetic sizzle reel of Nintendo history actually.
I'm betting 500 grammes of Macaron on that. Who want to be in ? :p
 
Aostia said:
Talking about E3 presentation:

with MarioMii and Pikmin3 leaked (or confirmed?) and the "third party cold mood" we are looking at, what do you think will be the focus of the presentation on the E3 floor?

I mean: if we should imagine a "weak" third party support and two games already pre-announced, I think that the main focus could be something else from first party teams.

What's your bet?
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I am looking forward to the 3rd Party games more than what Nintendo has to offer with the two confirmed

seriously I am feeling no hype right now :(
Things are too quiet. I think I should have ignored these threads after all this time of expecting negative things about the WiiU's low power and only people talking about what games are not coming to WiiU it is kinda hard to gage what Nintendo E3 will really feel like when we finally get to that day

MarioMii = meh
Pikmin 3 = should have been a Wii Game 2 years ago

meh meh meh

I am more excited about WiiU sports at this point
 
Sorry to post this but ...

Sometimes I think you go to far in your "criticism" or "enthusiasm". Other times I think you aren't fair with some developers.

And finally other times I don't understand why you have to "protect" or "defend" a company (in this thread nintendo) too fiercely.

It just only an opinion, I think some of you must relax a bit and not take this things too serious. It's just a hobby.

For me, in this cases, not to have a game in my platform is bad, simply as that, for whatever reasons they have to not to put on it. And my job will be to convince them (not beg) that it will be a good idea to release it there.
 
IdeaMan said:
I certainly wouldn't say there is a third-party cold mood, on the contrary, some of them have never been so much active in previous Nintendo platforms. Yes, there are bad news here and there, but their reach is rather limited.

I'm expecting the longest and most frenetic sizzle reel of Nintendo history actually.
I'm betting 500 grammes of Macaron on that. Who want to be in ? :p
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stick with the Nintendoomed it is the only way for WiiU success every time GAF has NINTENDO DOOM and bad news all around we end up with a great Nintendo Platform

people still have not gotten it after DS > Wii > 3DS successes that Nintendo is far from doomed
 
IdeaMan said:
http://www.jeuxactu.com/baldur-s-gate-sur-wii-u-80105.htm

It's already unleashed on french websites lol

The guy will feel some backfire. With the correct and gentlemen reactions to have against his tweets, he'll apologize and develop a pretty BG for Wii U :p
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Tweet will be deleted, Bioware will make some sort of statement, he'll come on stage at E3 to announce BG for Wii U, and then, in front of the audience, Nintendo will have him dragged away and executed. Third party relations.
 
lherre said:
Sorry to post this but ...

Sometimes I think you go to far in your "criticism" or "enthusiasm". Other times I think you aren't fair with some developers.

And finally other times I don't understand why you have to "protect" or "defend" a company (in this thread nintendo) too fiercely.

It just only an opinion, I think some of you must relax a bit and not take this things too serious. It's just a hobby.

For me, in this cases, not to have a game in my platform is bad, simply as that, for whatever reasons they have to not to put on it. And my job will be to convince them (not beg) that it will be a good idea to release it there.
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OMG lherre is posting in this thread! :)

how much ram does the WiiU Have? huh huh this is not just a hobby to us its serious business :)
 
Smiles and Cries said:
I am looking forward to the 3rd Party games more than what Nintendo has to offer with the two confirmed

seriously I am feeling no hype right now :(
Things are too quiet. I think I should have ignored these threads after all this time of expecting negative things about the WiiU's low power and only people talking about what games are not coming to WiiU it is kinda hard to gage what Nintendo E3 will really feel like when we finally get to that day

MarioMii = meh
Pikmin 3 = should have been a Wii Game 2 years ago

meh meh meh

I am more excited about WiiU sports at this point
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Think the actual situation like that:

A giant, but secretly-prepared Pizza party, scheduled for the 1st of the Calzone Month
Some time before, 2 or 3 kind of herbs, olives, etc., not very important for the taste of the pizza, are declining the invitation but it's not 100% sure.
You don't know which other ingredients will come.

You are at this stage, you fear that crucial attendees will miss the show and the end result will be meh in your mouth.

And come the 1st Calzone, you witness the opening of the festivities, with tons of mushrooms, tomatoes sauce, onions, tuna, etc. In the end, nearly every ingredients are here, assembling to create the more awesome Pizza that you've ever eaten. This is what will happen, so be reassured :)
 
lherre said:
Sorry to post this but ...

Sometimes I think you go to far in your "criticism" or "enthusiasm". Other times I think you aren't fair with some developers.

And finally other times I don't understand why you have to "protect" or "defend" a company (in this thread nintendo) too fiercely.

It just only an opinion, I think some of you must relax a bit and not take this things too serious. It's just a hobby.

For me, in this cases, not to have a game in my platform is bad, simply as that, for whatever reasons they have to not to put on it. And my job will be to convince them (not beg) that it will be a good idea to release it there.
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Exactly (and hi lherre :) )
 
I always wonder why we only ever get reports of individuals being displeased with Nintendo but never with Sony or Microsoft. Guess Nintendo just doesn't appeal to the ruder people of society.
 
IdeaMan said:
Think the actual situation like that:

A giant, but secretly-prepared Pizza party, scheduled for the 1st of the Calzone Month
Some time before, 2 or 3 kind of herbs, olives, etc., not very important for the taste of the pizza, are declining the invitation but it's not 100% sure.
You don't know which other ingredients will come.

You are at this stage, you fear that crucial attendees will miss the show and the end result will be meh in your mouth.

And come the 1st Calzone, you witness the opening of the festivities, with tons of mushrooms, tomatoes sauce, onions, tuna, etc. In the end, nearly every ingredients are here, assembling to create the more awesome Pizza that you've ever eaten. This is what will happen, so be reassured :)
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Is it Lunch time or Dinner time in France?

E3 is going to suck for NeoGAF if we don't get any PS4/720 news so Nintendo is in a much safer place considering we all expect to see something WiiU. I am just not excited about the Menu


damn now I'm hungry
 
BGBW said:
I always wonder why we only ever get reports of individuals being displeased with Nintendo but never with Sony or Microsoft. Guess Nintendo just doesn't appeal to the ruder people of society.
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The reason is simple, there are no individuals that are displeased with Sony or Microsoft ;) Seriously though, i remember that Gabe Newel from Valve was very vocal against the PS3 in the begining.
 
lherre said:
Sorry to post this but ...

Sometimes I think you go to far in your "criticism" or "enthusiasm". Other times I think you aren't fair with some developers.

And finally other times I don't understand why you have to "protect" or "defend" a company (in this thread nintendo) too fiercely.

It just only an opinion, I think some of you must relax a bit and not take this things too serious. It's just a hobby.

For me, in this cases, not to have a game in my platform is bad, simply as that, for whatever reasons they have to not to put on it. And my job will be to convince them (not beg) that it will be a good idea to release it there.
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Actually on that last point, you'd be surprised how many people I've seen on the internet wished that Wii Sports or Wii Fit or Just Dance didn't even exist. Hell a popular theory of the Wii's recent downturn was the idea of a "shovelware system." Bad games, or "unwanted" games in the case of Wii___ and Just Dance games can "hurt."

Which is not to say that Baldur's Gate is bad. But it's really a non-issue as the guy seems like such a cross person that no amount of convincing will make him realize he's being a tool, and, while fighting for each and every game is a good idea, you should also pick your battles. If the effort Nintendo spends trying to get this guy on board would have been better spent securing...uhhh... Left 4 Dead 3 or something, then Nintendo should probably focus their attention there and not on a decade old PC port that even their competitors aren't getting.
 
lherre said:
Sorry to post this but ...

Sometimes I think you go to far in your "criticism" or "enthusiasm". Other times I think you aren't fair with some developers.

And finally other times I don't understand why you have to "protect" or "defend" a company (in this thread nintendo) too fiercely.

It just only an opinion, I think some of you must relax a bit and not take this things too serious. It's just a hobby.

For me, in this cases, not to have a game in my platform is bad, simply as that, for whatever reasons they have to not to put on it. And my job will be to convince them (not beg) that it will be a good idea to release it there.
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People obsessed with video games are... well, obsessive. It just goes with the territory. But you're right; nobody should be taking any of this stuff personally. If some developer is refusing to bring their game to any console, then that's always going to be disappointing. However it's just one case among a massive industry of developers and studios out there. We don't know the whole situation or the personalities involved or anything beyond a few tweets. So yeah, I wouldn't bother this guy at all. Let him be. If/when the eShop on the Wii U takes off and proves more suitable for devs than WiiWare, maybe he'll reconsider.
 
BGBW said:
I always wonder why we only ever get reports of individuals being displeased with Nintendo but never with Sony or Microsoft. Guess Nintendo just doesn't appeal to the ruder people of society.
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Move did not get enough flack because we all pretend it does not exist

Kinect has no real games but it seems to be a darling with GiantBomb Quicklooks

Vita is doomed but we all love it

Sony/MS has had issues that would have killed Nintendo

Nintendo is just a better target to troll face it, it is fun to make Nintendo fans react to them
 
The Balder Gate's guy is not the only one who thought Nintendo did a shit job with WiiWare.

I think most developers and gamers would agree with him. They handled it very poorly.
 
MS used to have really entertaining E3 shows with great pacing and some nice surprises.

The last two years however...
 
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