HarryHengst
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Creatine works, but it will bloat you up a bit due to water retention. Its also, afaik, not used for losing weight, but for increasing your recovery during sets, allowing to pump out some more reps.
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Oh hell yes. Finally got 6 reps on 300 deadlift after 3 stalls. On the 6th rep I yelled loudly and then I sat down afterwards and with all the blood rushing into (or out of?) my head, I felt completely different about life. The shin guards helped so I could use correct form and get better leverage.
Did full reps with 220 on bench. That's 3 bench days in a row I've went up in weight. Finally gonna do 2 plates next workout, feels good man.
Did full reps with 220 on bench. That's 3 bench days in a row I've went up in weight. Finally gonna do 2 plates next workout, feels good man.
Fitness noob. I've been doing some situps, pushups, weight curls and the bycicle. I can do 125+ situps, more if I push myself. 20-25 pushups. about 50 weight curls (of 15 pounds).
I've seen some noticeable improvements over the past few weeks (try to do these at least once a day). lately I'm doing more than 1 set for these. Now, is it better for example to do 150 situps at a time, or break them into 3 sets of 50?
I've seen some noticeable improvements over the past few weeks (try to do these at least once a day). lately I'm doing more than 1 set for these. Now, is it better for example to do 150 situps at a time, or break them into 3 sets of 50?
injured wrist(left hand, I'm a righty) the other week doing an exercise i normally do (preacher curls). Joint hurts when I put weight on it or just moving it (picking up a gallon of milk). Hand feels better with ibuprofen. Other wise, hand feel tired/weak too, especially when I try to grip. Went to the gym a lot last summer and lost a good amount of weigh(30 pounds). Started to slowly go back to bulk up but now this happened. Feels like I really took the gym taken for granted, shouldn't have stopped going. Dr app next week. Friend mentioned how it could be a pinch nerve or carpel tunnel.
Feels bad man.
Feels bad man.
DR2K
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I say do 3 different sit ups 50 reps each.
HarryHengst
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Enjoy your fucked up neck.
This is where it would be helpful to, instead of waiting for him to reply "how is it going to fuck up my neck?", just tell him.
I got probably the same injury a couple months back, doing lying tricep extensions with a barbell. It still hurts if I put pressure on the wrist (bench press) or if I rotate the wrist while handling a weight, like when putting a kettlebell in position to do... lying tricep extensions. It hurts on the outside of the hand or "streaming" down from the thumb, and sometimes the hand just feels weak or numb. Sad to say I haven't been to a doctor yet.
Sounds exactly like my case. I'll let you know what she tells me so that maybe you could possibly have an answer.
HarryHengst
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It makes absolutely no sense to do 150 situps a day (it wont give you a sixpack), you are placing a lot of unnecessary stress on your neck and back unless you do them all with perfect technique. If you are doing 150 a day of them im pretty sure you arent doing that. If you want to work your abs, do planks or leg raises or cable crunches or something.
Oh, I definitely agree.
Witchfinder General
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Out of curiosity, what are the benefits of doing sit-ups?
Mecha_Infantry
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To keep things simple, I cut for summer and bulk during winter. It's the most thoughtless process. Although this winter I won't bulk as big as I did this year. This is the biggest I've ever been and it's not always fun!
I'm cutting so I simply have 30grms of protein and 125mls of water
A crunch or a full sit-up? Full sit-ups work your upper abdominals and hip flexors, crunches put all the focus on upper abdominals. And if you maintain a flat back, crunches are much safer and more effective for the abdominals than sit-ups. Strong abdominals aid in posture and stability.
Hey everyone, I need you help.
My dad recently got bloodwork back and everything is bad. Triglycerides, Blood Pressure, and Cholesterol is high and he's pre-diabetic. They've been elevated for him for a long time but this test seemed the worst.
I'm trying to get him on IF because he eats constantly, though small meals. He's slightly overweight and is not active at all. Works from home. When I tell him about IF he claims it's nonsense besides knowing nothing about it -- very stubborn.
Can anyone help me find articles, studies, or literature showing IF (or any nutritional protocol really) would be helpful for him? He says it only applies to healthy people Iike me.
I need to prove him wrong.
My dad recently got bloodwork back and everything is bad. Triglycerides, Blood Pressure, and Cholesterol is high and he's pre-diabetic. They've been elevated for him for a long time but this test seemed the worst.
I'm trying to get him on IF because he eats constantly, though small meals. He's slightly overweight and is not active at all. Works from home. When I tell him about IF he claims it's nonsense besides knowing nothing about it -- very stubborn.
Can anyone help me find articles, studies, or literature showing IF (or any nutritional protocol really) would be helpful for him? He says it only applies to healthy people Iike me.
I need to prove him wrong.
cuevas. PhD.
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Don't get him on IF, get him eating well.
Here's some stuff though: http://www.precisionnutrition.com/intermittent-fasting
Thanks, that's a good link.
Thing is, he does eat well! He just eats so often and even though small meals he has too much. He has no concept of how much he's eating but he must feel eating small meals is okay. Plus he still eats too many "good carbs" despite not realizing that he doesn't need so much at every meal since he is the definition of sedentary.
I figured IF, giving him a window where he doesn't eat, would not only automatically reduce calories to lose some fat but lower insulin as well. He is not one to count calories (again, VERY stubborn).
MrOogieBoogie
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Well, I fucked up. Worked out for two hours on Monday, then again on Tuesday, and told myself I wouldn't workout yesterday, but as I was walking by the park I couldn't help myself. I'm addicted.
But I didn't adequately stretch (nor have I rested much this week), so within minutes of pull-ups and dips I felt a sharp pain in my left shoulder. I probably rotated it too much or something, but fuck it hurt. Decided to end my workout then and rest it all day today. Woke up this morning and it's still a bit sore. I can stretch my arm, but still feel a slight burning sensation in my shoulder, which sucks. I'm certain it will go away soon, but any injury, no matter how big or light, really fucking sucks. It's killing my spirit now knowing that it COULD potentially be worse than I imagined. I'll just have to wait and see. I want to workout out so badly tomorrow, too, and it'll have to take a lot for me to stop myself from doing just that.
But I didn't adequately stretch (nor have I rested much this week), so within minutes of pull-ups and dips I felt a sharp pain in my left shoulder. I probably rotated it too much or something, but fuck it hurt. Decided to end my workout then and rest it all day today. Woke up this morning and it's still a bit sore. I can stretch my arm, but still feel a slight burning sensation in my shoulder, which sucks. I'm certain it will go away soon, but any injury, no matter how big or light, really fucking sucks. It's killing my spirit now knowing that it COULD potentially be worse than I imagined. I'll just have to wait and see. I want to workout out so badly tomorrow, too, and it'll have to take a lot for me to stop myself from doing just that.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Shin splints hurt like a motherfucker.
Great, thanks! I'll put money on "It'll go over in a while".
Luscious LeftFoot
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This morning I saw a guy doing curls while standing on a bouncy ball... in a squat rack. 
I'd really like to know where these guys come up with this stuff.
I'd really like to know where these guys come up with this stuff.
Mecha_Infantry
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Just realised I've been taking 10gms of creatine for the past 2 months...FFS
replicashooter
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This morning I saw a guy doing curls while standing on a bouncy ball... in a squat rack.
I'd really like to know where these guys come up with this stuff.
Value for money for the gym membership. Wait till you see them doing tricep extensions on the vibroplate in the sauna.
Brolic Gaoler
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Anton Sugar
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Need protein! Any good deals on whey protein anywhere?
cuevas. PhD.
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Idk about deals but the ON coffee flavor is fucking delicious
No good deals anywhere. I wish I could still pay $40 for 5 lbs.
Brolic Gaoler
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I pay 97ish for a 10lb bag of ON now.
FallingEdge
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I pay 50 for 5 lbs of ON, but I really should just get the 10lb bag.
I miss the days of ship and save.
I miss the days of ship and save.
Anton Sugar
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Damn...fears confirmed. I, too, miss the days of $40 5lb purchases. May just go for bulk with 10lbs ON. Thanks!
Well now you have me intrigued.
How much did you change up your routine compared to when on a bulk?
Martin Berkhan obviously has a number of well-cited articles and critiques on his site:
Better Blood Glucose With Lower Meal Frequency
Three Meals Superior for Appetite Control
Intermittent Fasting, Set-point and Leptin
Fasting and Metabolism
Ghrelin and Entrained Meal Patterns
Also pertinent is this older article of his on IF and diabetes:
My Training Methodology and IF for Diabetes
Alan Aragon's guest post on Leangains last April critiquing the International Society of Sport Nutrition's stance on meal frequency is good. It's much more backed up than the ISSN's claims of increased frequency being better for appetite control, insulin sensitivity and cholesterol. Interesting since John Berardi was among the authors of the study and subsequently changed his position on IF within the year ("sorry about recommending six meals a day for the last decade+, guys!"). Regardless, the link to Aragon's article:
A Critique of the ISSN Position Stand on Meal Frequency by Alan Aragon
Mark Sisson's ongoing features on IF are well-cited and thorough:
Why Fast? Part 1 - Weight Loss
Why Fast? Part 2 - Cancer
Why Fast? Part 3 - Longevity
Why Fast? Part 4 - Brain Health
Why Fast? Part 5 - Exercise
Why Fast? Part 6 - Choosing a Method
And even though T-Nation hasn't gone full-blown IF on everybody, I had to chuckle a bit inside when their new resident dietary arbiter Nate Miyaki downplayed the importance of six-meals a day in Deep Meal Frequency Thoughts. Not really evidence for IF, but advice concerning the necessity of eating many small meals a day.
Kurtis Frank (Silverhydra & fitness reddit moderator) is also a good source of IF information, but I fear this list is becoming too comprehensive at this point. If someone doesn't perceive IF as a viable option for a diet after all this, their ignorance is on themselves.
Started following all of the techniques in Starting Strength over the past two weeks. Very different than what I am used to.
For the squat, it is really hard for me to get my wrists straight. Also, I'm not sure how low to put the bar down. I have lower than I used to, but I'm not sure if I'm low enough. Strength is ok with it. I'm at 285x5 ATG. Kind of scary though since I don't have a squat cage but use an upright squat rack. Going to have to buy some safety bars soon.
The deadlift is also way diffenet than I am used to. Before, I was driving with my hips but now I am pulling my my chest up first.. Lower back feels good, but i'm not as strong. Did 315x5 today, down from 365x5. However, my lower back feels better which is good.
Anybody having trouble adapting to Starting Strength techniques?
For the squat, it is really hard for me to get my wrists straight. Also, I'm not sure how low to put the bar down. I have lower than I used to, but I'm not sure if I'm low enough. Strength is ok with it. I'm at 285x5 ATG. Kind of scary though since I don't have a squat cage but use an upright squat rack. Going to have to buy some safety bars soon.
The deadlift is also way diffenet than I am used to. Before, I was driving with my hips but now I am pulling my my chest up first.. Lower back feels good, but i'm not as strong. Did 315x5 today, down from 365x5. However, my lower back feels better which is good.
Anybody having trouble adapting to Starting Strength techniques?
I really think this link should be in the sticky: http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/platform_the_squat_bar_position
I don't recommend going ass to grass on low bar squats. The lower bar position requires more of a forward lean with the torso, resulting in greater hamstring tension. This means you won't go as deep on a low bar squat, and that going AtG will most likely result in slack hamstrings/ low back. This is especially bad when bomb a squat doing this because you just kill any tension at the bottom that you would normally use to drive up, making it really really bad for you who has no rack/ safety bars.
I'm not sure if you have a Costco membership, but I can get a $6 bag of 100% whey for $35-40. Trueprotein.com also has a recession whey package of about 50 lbs for $250. There's a 25 lb package too.
Also, someone asked about shakes before, so here: http://www.70sbig.com/blog/2009/12/70s-big-shake/
I hate to say this, but I'm not sure if all the articles in the world would convince your dad. He's already resigned himself as someone who is "unhealthy." Also, I'm not sure if lean gains is going to be the best fit for him. He either needs more activity or less food because his situation is getting serious.
Older guys are the worst when it comes to getting them to be healthier. They're knowledge of nutrition and exercises is really distorted. The hardest part of all this is shattering that the illusions of health that he has created. Best of luck.
Yea getting older people to be healthy is near impossible. So much bad info and an awful 'its too late and too hard' attitude.
Something drastic like LG will never work in my opinion. They have to believe they need to get healthier. I'm sure your dad knows about how his results are bad but try explain how they're going to be awful for his future if he carries on as he is.
Something drastic like LG will never work in my opinion. They have to believe they need to get healthier. I'm sure your dad knows about how his results are bad but try explain how they're going to be awful for his future if he carries on as he is.
CliqWriter
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This morning I saw a guy doing curls while standing on a bouncy ball... in a squat rack.
I'd really like to know where these guys come up with this stuff.
I would have recorded this and put him on bodybuilding.com
entremet
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I would not recommend IF for someone in his state. I'm guessing his leptin balance is off due to his poor eating choices. He has to improve his food choices. "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes is a great primer for that.
Mess-up shoulders, shin splints and bruised hands.
We're going to need a fitGAF infirmary before too long.
I've been able to help some people around me improve themselves. Others have thought they wanted to lift weights or eat clean, but that's as far as they ever got. Others maintain shitty habits like smoking that will take drastic life changes for them to cease their dangerous habits, should they ever change at all.
You still have to try.
I still find value in the balanced approach, but in select conditions where the pendulum has been pulled so far to the left (such as chronic obesity), letting it swing all the way to the right may be initially helpful in correcting a problem. Keeping it from swinging back is always fun.
Getting rid of bad habits piecemeal is helpful, but less so if one is on the precipice of failing health. Baby steps are good.
We're going to need a fitGAF infirmary before too long.
On occasion a person will reach a crossroads and realize the error of their ways. Being presented with information is the only way we'll know if they ever shed their ignorance of the facts, despite any unlikelihood they take advantage it.
I've been able to help some people around me improve themselves. Others have thought they wanted to lift weights or eat clean, but that's as far as they ever got. Others maintain shitty habits like smoking that will take drastic life changes for them to cease their dangerous habits, should they ever change at all.
You still have to try.
While I don't find LG to be drastic, but a characteristic of a moderate lifestyle, this reminded me of an old piece Dan John did:Enco said:
Dan John said:
I still find value in the balanced approach, but in select conditions where the pendulum has been pulled so far to the left (such as chronic obesity), letting it swing all the way to the right may be initially helpful in correcting a problem. Keeping it from swinging back is always fun.
Getting rid of bad habits piecemeal is helpful, but less so if one is on the precipice of failing health. Baby steps are good.
parrotbeak
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Throw me in that infirmary. I think i strained a pec. Noticed it was sore during benching last session but had a 3 day rest and didn't have mobility issues so just did my presses as normal last night. Pec was sore during it but i pressed on. Sore all night and then I kept waking up all night to sharp pain going through to my rhomboid. It's all tight and sore around my pec and around clavicle and trap.
It's not painful to rotate my arm around so at least there's no shoulder issues, hopefully. But it hurts in a normal resting position with arm down. Arm up feels a little better until getting towards the high end and then the stretch hurts.
It's not painful to rotate my arm around so at least there's no shoulder issues, hopefully. But it hurts in a normal resting position with arm down. Arm up feels a little better until getting towards the high end and then the stretch hurts.
Anton Sugar
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It pains me to say it, but I think I need to remove Power Shrugs from my accessory work for my 5/3/1 deadlift day. This year was going to be "Year of the Traps" for me, and Power Shrugs are fucking amazing for this, but as the weight gets heavier, a niggling lower back issue has popped up and is affecting my squat and deadlift.
Excluding power shrugs, what (in your opinion) is the next best exercise to stimulate trap growth?
Excluding power shrugs, what (in your opinion) is the next best exercise to stimulate trap growth?
Anton Sugar
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I guess that's one way to describe it.
Poindexter
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Heavy deads and using a speed bag made my traps explode.
BlueScrote
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This is an excellent list of info on IF. If there was a proper place in the OP for it, I'd say it deserves to go there.
Drealmcc0y
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Do you think its worth doing weights if you only had 3 hours sleep?
I know I wont be able to push myself to the max, so is it worth the effort?
I know I wont be able to push myself to the max, so is it worth the effort?
Some effort is always better than no effort.
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