ViewtifulJC
Banned
No, the artwork sucked before, so we shouldn't be upset when it sucks again.
New Super Mario Bros 2 announced for 3DS - August 2012
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No, the artwork sucked before, so we shouldn't be upset when it sucks again.
Chet Rippo
Member
What would Yoshi plus Racoon Tail be like?
I honestly think they do it because they're afraid to alienate people. They want these series to be evergreens, that even if you skip one or two, it'll always be somewhat familiar. Changing the art style damages the recognizability of the brand.
What's the Nintendo franchise with the most fanboy turmoil? Zelda, the one that keeps changing art styles every other game. Of course, there's a litany of other reasons why it's so divisive, but it's not hard to see, evidenced by the initial reaction to TWW's art style, that the market expect some sort of consistency.
Not that this is an excuse, but it's just the reality of the business.
Waggle improved the Galaxies, made you feel like you really needed to strain to get that little extra distance.
Speaking of which, I wonder if they'll keep the NSMBW waggle in this one?
outunderthestars
Banned
Not to derail your meltdown and what not. But none of those game reused the exact same art assets for three games in a row. The screenshots shown today did.
A consistent art style is fine. Just recycling the same ones from before isn't.
TheCongressman1
Member
The difference is the perspective. The art works fine in a three dimensional environment, and just doesn't in 2D.
How would that even work? Violently shake your entire system to do something a button press could accomplish?
captmcblack
Member
3DS just won, no matter what you think.
Also, return of Raccoon Mario? omfgies.
Also, return of Raccoon Mario? omfgies.
Chet Rippo
Member
Yeah, that would be unwise with the whole 3D thing.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Ehh, that makes no sense. Nintendo is perfectly capable of busting out amazing 2D art. This is either laziness or really really bad taste.
This is pathetic compared to the variety and ever improving artstyles of 8 and 16 bit era Mario.
*Shrugs*
I'm part of the problem and you bitches can kiss my ass. Day one.
The "problem" of getting one 2d mario for every gen after the NES?
radioheadrule83
Banned
Nintendo: New NSMB game!
GAF: RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
They didn't. The same elements have been redrawn - the castle (different textures, windows, flags), the hill things, background trees, clouds, ground, bolted blocks, redrawn recoloured bricks, the snowy trees are completely different... even the trees from NSMB Wii World 5 are different enough that you can tell they're not the same assets. You might find them equally displeasing, and similar enough, but they're not the same assets. It's only really character / enemy models which look nearly identical (they probably are now, they're so standardised). The HUD is different too... I mean, look at that post which had the DS, Wii and 3DS versions -- it is clear to me the order in which they were released.
GAF: RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
They didn't. The same elements have been redrawn - the castle (different textures, windows, flags), the hill things, background trees, clouds, ground, bolted blocks, redrawn recoloured bricks, the snowy trees are completely different... even the trees from NSMB Wii World 5 are different enough that you can tell they're not the same assets. You might find them equally displeasing, and similar enough, but they're not the same assets. It's only really character / enemy models which look nearly identical (they probably are now, they're so standardised). The HUD is different too... I mean, look at that post which had the DS, Wii and 3DS versions -- it is clear to me the order in which they were released.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Kittens, my post was in jest
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
We got two 2D Marios last gen.
IrishNinja
Member
some salt in this thread. if it's good, ill get it.
see, this is the real tragedy here.
see, this is the real tragedy here.
Plus 3D land takes flights of fancy like the pillow-block bubbly sky stage which NSMB2 99.9% most likely will not take.
I am so sure of this because an awesome pillow bubble land did not appear in the past two NSMBs.
I was just talking about the complaints about the artstyle/amount of games released. I don't see it as a problem whatsoever but if people want to call it that...
I'm pretty happy, if NSMB Wii was anything to go by, I'll be overjoyed.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Hah, good. I just saw it at the top of the page and probably took it out of context.
Chet Rippo
Member
He worded it poorly, I think he meant per system.
cartman414
Member
Which came at the expense of the quick challenge platforming of SMB3. Which was also more varied.
This is correct. Sure I've complained about SMG2 using the same graphics engine/assets, but at least that game had an infinitely superior looking art design than the NSMB games.
ThatObviousUser
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SMB3 levels were too short. Some of them absurdly so. I get what they were trying to do, one gimmick per level thing, but even NSMBW handled that much better.
Ehhhh, NSMBW required a gentle tug (aye aye) not a "violent shake". If they don't have it as a motion move (and they probably won't) I doubt they'll keep it at all. I mean, a whole button to slightly augment jumps? Seems unlikely. This isn't a DKCR situation.
What 2013 3DS game?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Fuck alternate exits. Fuck'em to the lowest bowels of the underworld. In-level collectibles > hidden exits/warps
Nintendo said sometime ago they planned a Mario platformer to be released before April 2013. Surely it can't be this, because this is way too soon to be so specified since that announcement.
radioheadrule83
Banned
They needn't be mutually exclusive.
I want dastardly gold coins and butter bridge exits.
Chet Rippo
Member
They had both in NSMBW.
Pretty sure they said "this financial year". Not sure why this can't be that?
cartman414
Member
What I was getting at was that SMW's platforming was comparatively pedestrian, especially when you had the cape, which let you glide super slowly and almost never miss a platform.
Besides, on the whole, SMB3 wasn't much shorter if at all than SMW.
ThatObviousUser
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I'd debate that, especially since SMW is more replayable due to the branching paths and secret exits.
You could always not use the cape if you ever wanted the extra challenge. Think of it as a prototype Super Guide.
I have a pretty strong feeling the multi won't be like the Wii version. They'd have to make the camera zoom out with more players and that won't work on such a small screen.
Why would it zoom out when each player has their own screen?
ShockingAlberto
Member
I hope the game is fun.
I plan to buy it if it is fun.
I plan to buy it if it is fun.
I've been called out on GAF for playing games for fun.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
It'll probably be fun, like NSMBWii
It'll also be ugly as sin, like NSMBWii
It'll also be ugly as sin, like NSMBWii
Is your avatar the face you make when you get called out? ):
Femmeworth
Banned
Please have good controls. :\
Chet Rippo
Member
They could make it more like a race to the end, rather than the backstabingcooperative multiplayer that was in NSMBW.
Because they'd still want you to see other players?
Holy shit that is some uninspired art. The same grass, desert, snow, swamp worlds AGAIN? Like, really Nintendo??
I bet it will look sharp in motion and wonderfully tangible in autostereoscopic 3D, and I'm sure the level design will be solid, but this art style is so overused by now. The game has no soul.
I bet it will look sharp in motion and wonderfully tangible in autostereoscopic 3D, and I'm sure the level design will be solid, but this art style is so overused by now. The game has no soul.
ShockingAlberto
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Neat.
ThatObviousUser
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Level map on the bottom screen.