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[outunderthestars]

I thought that might have been what you were referring to, but:

1. Thought it was out ages ago.
2. Was hoping there was some awesome Luigi based platformer that I never heard about til now.

A Luigi specific platformer would be awesome.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

So the Tanooki suite is back in this one too huh? Please don't base the entire game around it this time.

 

[Seda]

Are you serious? The game was bland. Hold yourself to higher standards.

It's just an opinion.

 

[Emitan]

But to say it was bad? I don't think so.

NSMB was like going from Bayonetta from God of War. God of War isn't exactly bad, but it's super bland whereas Bayonetta is perfection.

 

[Tookay]

So the Tanooki suite is back in this one too huh? Please don't base the entire game around it this time.

Well, I'd rather them do it RIGHT this time, versus SM3DL's lame interpretation.

 

[greycolumbus]

If all the gold stuff is implying that Wario is being brought back into the fold then I'm a lot more excited.

 

[AniHawk]

A Luigi specific platformer would be awesome.

 

[randomkid]

hey bros so if i made a thread called "nintendo continues to commit aesthetic hate crimes, when does it get better (no gameplay snobs allowed)" would anyone join me? i'm just trying to be considerate of you mechanics people.

also where the eff is paper mario 3ds, i hate you nintendo

 

[radioheadrule83]

If all the gold stuff is implying that Wario is being brought back into the fold then I'm a lot more excited.

The gold stuff in that snow level and the gold Mario is definitely a clue to something about the game. Midas Mario?

 

[Oblivion]

A Luigi specific platformer would be awesome.

I agree. At least, in theory anyway. But knowing Nintendo, they'd probably give him some awful, awful physics thus ruining the whole game.

 

[fse]

Eh NSMB2 doesn't excite me and NSMB WiiU surely won't.

 

[youngplaya21]

Jesus ANOTHER ONE. No shame in the milking of this franchise

Spoiler

Still buying day one, so I'm part of the problem

 

[Seda]

hey bros so if i made a thread called "nintendo continues to commit aesthetic hate crimes, when does it get better (no gameplay snobs allowed)" would anyone join me? i'm just trying to be considerate of you mechanics people.

That's a great idea.

Spoiler

noitisn't

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

For the record, it doesn't just look similar, much of the graphical content is being directly lifted from New SMB Wii.

You're talking about the same company whose clouds are the same design as their bushes...

In this game, the trees look different!!!!

That's progress.

If you want production levels, you're never going to get it with 2D Mario games from Nintendo, I am sure the 3D EAD Tokyo Mario game will astound though.

 

[Emitan]

Jesus ANOTHER ONE. No shame in the milking of this franchise

Spoiler

Still buying day one, so I'm part of the problem

oh no one 2d platformer per console sure is milking

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I thought that might have been what you were referring to, but:

1. Thought it was out ages ago.
2. Was hoping there was some awesome Luigi based platformer that I never heard about til now.

Sigh... Oblivion...

 

[prwxv3]

NSMB was like going from Bayonetta from God of War. God of War isn't exactly bad, but it's super bland whereas Bayonetta is perfection.

That is a pretty bad comparison. God Of War is no where near bland. it's combat system is not as good as Bayonetta for sure, but it has a soul. A better comparison would be to go from Bayonetta to Ninja Gaiden 3.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I had this game.

I tried so hard to convince myself it was good.

I never could.

 

[Emitan]

That is a pretty bad comparison. God Of War is no where near bland. it's combat system is not as good as Bayonetta for sure, but it has a soul. A better comparison would be to go from Bayonetta to Ninja Gaiden 3.

A character action game where you can spam the same combo through the entire game is the definition of bland.

 

[Azure Dream]

I was going to edit this into my post, but it's already the new page. I don't mean to harp on and on about this, it's just kind of...

 

[Deleted member 8095]

A character action game where you can spam the same combo through the entire game is the definition of bland.

At least it wasn't embarrassing to play in front of my wife.

I was going to edit this into my post, but it's already the new page. I don't mean to harp on and on about this, it's just kind of...

I just noticed the three coins are gone! Hopefully that means something better like SMW-style secret exits! YES!

Also, what does "just kind of..." mean?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

A character action game where you can spam the same combo through the entire game is the definition of bland.

You can probably go through Bayonetta doing the same combo over and over again as well. Really don't know your point here.

"I played the game in the most boring way possible, what a piece of garbage"

 

[radioheadrule83]

That is a pretty bad comparison. God Of War is no where near bland. it's combat system is not as good as Bayonetta for sure, but it has a soul. A better comparison would be to go from Bayonetta to Ninja Gaiden 3.

We went from Super Mario Advance games (full price ports) to NSMB. And from NSMB to the much better NSMB Wii. I'm okay with that.

 

[prwxv3]

A character action game where you can spam the same combo through the entire game is the definition of bland.

That does not work on harder difficulty levels. And you can do crazy things with the combat system in three if you are good enough.

 

[Busaiku]

At least it wasn't embarrassing to play in front of my wife.

The definition of bland.

 

[Technosteve]

i was going to buy a ps3 for the bluray but for this i buy a 3DS

 

[Fourth Storm]

I have to say, I'm very disappointed with the route this series has taken graphically. People say Super Mario Bros was never about the graphics, but historically this is not so...

In the USA at least, Super Mario Bros 2 (Doki Doki Panic...I love that title) was a significant upgrade over the original title. And then, of course, Super Mario Bros 3 blew everything out of the water in multiple categories.

Super Mario World also added a significant graphical upgrade in color, resolution, effects (such as scaling), and overall size/complexity. Then of course we got the graphically groundbreaking Yoshi's Island and Mario 64. Sunshine had some of the best damn water effects to be seen in games for years. Hell, even the Gameboy games, Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins and Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 had huge and well drawn sprites!

It's only with the New Super Mario Bros series that Nintendo has decided that gamers don't care about graphics in their Mario platformers. 2D or 3D. Console or portable. It was fine because the DS game was the first in many many years and the Wii title actually looks a good deal better than the DS game and offered multiplayer for the first time. From what they've shown of NSMB2 and NSBMii, however, it looks as if Nintendo have forgotten a major reason why their players used to say "Wow."

 

[Azure Dream]

I just noticed the three coins are gone! Hopefully that means something better like SMW-style secret exits! YES!

Bottom screen?

 

[Deleted member 8095]

Bottom screen?

I hate you.

 

[DDayton]

A sequel to the best title in the series?

A sequel to the best title in the series grafted onto NSMB-multiplayer?

I don't get the complaints. Granted, there were reviews of SMW in which the graphics were dismissed as "too 8-bit", so...

 

[Chet Rippo]

I just noticed the three coins are gone! Hopefully that means something better like SMW-style secret exits! YES!

They might have just moved those to the bottom screen, seeing as it's the 3DS.

 

[the androgyne]

Such kerfuffle about the art style. I'd still buy it if the platforms were in shades of grey silhouette style with no backgrounds at all... but really, people praised 3D Land like it wasn't using this artstyle but it's basically using the same kind of elements for stage design. Not to mention they're probably using the same character and block assets all around (and not just in the mario platform games either). It's unmistakably Mario at this point and that's why they keep doing it.

 

[Azure Dream]

I hate you.

Don't stomp the messenger.

 

[nintendoman58]

This is not worth my time and money. I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to go back to 2-D Mario when I saw things like this in Galaxy 1 and 2.

 

[Emitan]

This is not worth my time and money. I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to go back to 2-D Mario when I saw things like this in Galaxy 1 and 2.

So you don't like 2D games?

 

[BurntPork]

Yeah, nintendo...

I like you a lot, but... the same game again?

(If nintendo is pushing same New Super Mario for the third time, we can forget about anything new on animal crossing...)

I'm saving this post for the Black Ops 2 reveal.

 

[outunderthestars]

This is not worth my time and money. I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to go back to 2-D Mario when I saw things like this in Galaxy 1 and 2.

I would pay so much money for waggle free hd ports of those games.

 

[radioheadrule83]

This is not worth my time and money. I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to go back to 2-D Mario when I saw things like this in Galaxy 1 and 2.

Giant goombas that could be killed with a single spin and vast expanses with little to no platforming?

The galaxy games are amazing but I don't see what's so great about that particular shot

The platforming in SM3DL, especially

Spoiler

after World 8

was sublime. If they apply what they learned making that to this game, and some of what they learned on NSMB Wii - it'll be amazing.

 

[NateDrake]

This is not worth my time and money. I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to go back to 2-D Mario when I saw things like this in Galaxy 1 and 2.

Did you not play 3D Land either?

 

[Kai Dracon]

One truth about the art style complaints, I think, is that Nintendo keeps a very consistent art style for many of their franchises.

Mario Kart games always look very similar.

Kirby games tend to stay within a very safe zone.

Animal Crossing, ditto.

The Wii -themed- series obviously has a specific style.

The main difference between these series and NSMB, is that people just don't like NSMB, therefore, it is the one that they call Nintendo "lazy" for.

But if that's the case, Nintendo has been "lazy" long, long before NSMB, and is currently being "lazy" with several other franchises that are ongoing.

Edit: forgot Paper Mario, which is always just about the same, including the 3DS game which could be mistaken for Paper Mario 1. But, people like the *style* so don't complain that they all look the same.

 

[DukeTogo1300]

P meter, OMG. If this is as good as NSMBWii I may finally accept my 3DS.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Please have Yoshi.

And please for the love of Yamauchi, don't have him locked to certain levels.

 

[outunderthestars]

The platforming in SM3DL, especially

Spoiler

after World 8

was sublime. .

On this, I agree with you 100%.

 

[Platy]

Looks good, yeah.

Wish the art style was different though...

What is it with these games and the completely bland art design

I don't know, but I wish they'd knock it off.

Hahah, let's reuse a lot of SMB3 stuff now!

"New Super Mario Bros" is the most grotesquely hilarious misnomer ever, because these games never actually do anything new of note. It's a god damned shame this series prints money so hard, because now there is no reason for them to actually make a compelling and interesting NEW Mario 2D title.

Also disappointed it seems to be using the same tired world themes for the third time in a row. Fucking hell, Nintendo.

Well... It'll sell but I can't say i'm excited. How much longer can Nintendo continue on with these rehashes and still get rewarded for it? I'd like to see more bold experiments like Kid Icarus Uprising.

Was hoping for a different look to this one. I didn't particularly enjoy the last DS one either. Guess I'll just wait for the next 3d version.

Yeah, nintendo...

I like you a lot, but... the same game again?

(If nintendo is pushing same New Super Mario for the third time, we can forget about anything new on animal crossing...)

Yes even with this art style the NSMB series has alot of room for impovements.

First they need online co-op as you said. Then add our "favorite" characters from the Mario universe to play as. I don't want to play as those 2 bland Mushroom men ever again! Finally, give us a real challenge Nintendo. I can live with the art style if these things are there.

I hate the way these games look.

HOLY SHIT @August

...please have a somewhat better visual style and be more like the Wii game, DS one was booooring.

Bring in some new art directors for this series Nintendo, you have plenty.

Fuck.

I'll probably buy it but I HATE the fact that they are reusing the same engine AGAIN.

And if they do the same on Wii U.... I don't think I'll buy another New Super Mario Bros.

The pictures look like they are reusing the same worlds from the original. They can't be that lazy, can they?

For me at least, I found both the wii game and ds game to be really dull after the nostalgia factor wore off. I just want them to be more creative with the art style and overall feel of the game.

Fucking this.
I just fed up of the always SMB3 nostalgia trip. The art team is just fucking lazy now.
EAD s the only ones that now how to handle the art of the mario games.



So not only looks the same, but it looks worse. Fucking lol to the art team. Pathetic.

My fucking Lord the art in these is such a charmless, genericized take on the "Mario style".

My kingdom for an art director on one of these who can make it feel a fraction as unique and special as every 2D Mario platformer did before this bastard interpretation came around.

Nobody is saying NSMW is bad, in fact, that game was an awesome 2D Mario platformer, with losts of levels and was the game that NSMB DS neede to be.

But the art is repetitive, bland and repeting it again is fucking inexcusable.



Space Pirates like to whine, havent you read their logs in Metroid Prime?

I don't have a problem with the art style. I have a problem with them reusing the same world settings time and a gain.

gimme s worlds again nintendo.

and yeah the background design could use a update

The art director for the NSMB games is Masanao Arimoto.

You know what to do, fellas!

So it's ok to say the game is great, amazing, and what not from those screen shots but I can't say that it looks lazy?

At least in the animation and art department.




Hohohohoho
BURN!

The post you were replying to was discussing art style and presentation, not gameplay.



For the record, it doesn't just look similar, much of the graphical content is being directly lifted from New SMB Wii.

HERE PEOPLE !
Lets have a class on Video Game History !

Super Mario Bros (nes)

Super Mario Bros 2 : The Lost Levels (nes)

Super Mario Galaxy (wii)

Super Mario Galaxy 2 (wii)

Paper Mario (n64)

Paper Mario : Thousand Year Door (cube)

Mario & Luigi Superstars Saga (gba)

Mario & Luigi Partners in Time (ds)

Not in the mood to search for more screens, but you can add games like Mario Vs Donkey Kong 1 and 2, Yoshi Island and Yoshi Island DS, Donkey Kong and DK94 ...even Mario is Missin/Mario's Time Machine

Mario Land to Mario Land 2 was the ONLY time that it had a change of graphical style from one to another. And Mario Land 2 had mario on a spaceship shotting stuff, so you know how "not exactly the most mario of the marios" that was =P

So, if they keep the "New" in the title, it WILL be this artwork, you like it or not. DEAL WITH IT.

Can we now hope that this has Yoshi AND Tanooki and die of fangasm happines ? PLEASE ?

 

[botty]

This is not worth my time and money. I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to go back to 2-D Mario when I saw things like this in Galaxy 1 and 2.

What exactly is new about this? 2D Mario did this before Galaxy. SMH

 

[cartman414]

Hopefully its not based on Doki Doki Panic.

You take that back. I demand another DDP type Mario.

 

[Emitan]

Please have Yoshi.

And please for the love of Yamauchi, don't have him locked to certain levels.

I died inside when the Yoshis waved goodbye when we beat the first Yoshi level.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I died inside when the Yoshi's waved goodbye when we beat the first Yoshi level.

I know. I died inside too. It's a special pain all of use World fans shared.

 

[Emitan]

HERE PEOPLE !
Lets have a class on Video Game History !



Not in the mood to search for more screens, but you can add games like Mario Vs Donkey Kong 1 and 2, Yoshi Island and Yoshi Island DS, Donkey Kong and DK94 ...even Mario is Missin/Mario's Time Machine

Mario Land to Mario Land 2 was the ONLY time that it had a change of graphical style from one to another. And Mario Land 2 had mario on a spaceship shotting stuff, so you know how "not exactly the most mario of the marios" that was =P

So, if they keep the "New" in the title, it WILL be this artwork, you like it or not. DEAL WITH IT.

Can we now hope that this has Yoshi AND Tanooki and die of fangasm happines ? PLEASE ?

The art sucks so deal with it? No thank you.

 

[Lijik]

I was going to edit this into my post, but it's already the new page. I don't mean to harp on and on about this, it's just kind of...

I just wanted the whole set
I cant believe the shitty oval clouds have survived three games.