Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]

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Just saw a screening and there was NO second stinger at the very end of the credits. Just the halfway one that everyone already knows is there.
 
Uncle said:
It's revealed in The Consultant one-shot, which is on the Thor blu-ray. It also ties The Incredible Hulk nicely into the Avengers. You can find it on youtube, I think.

Ross has him.
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That's odd. Movie left a bad taste in my mouth due to the lack of closure.

jett said:
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Most appropriate GIF ever?
 
jett said:
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GIF it all up all you want. I'm in the minority, but not alone. It wasn't the best drama of the year, but it had more emotion it than any Marvel film yet, which is to say it had some.

artist said:
Can I has your ranking of the Marvel movies so far?
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Just The Avengers ones?

Captain America (A-)
The Avengers (B-)
Thor (C)
Iron Man (C)
The Incredible Hulk (C)
Iron Man 2 (D+)
 
Uncle said:
It's revealed in The Consultant one-shot, which is on the Thor blu-ray. It also ties The Incredible Hulk nicely into the Avengers. You can find it on youtube, I think.

Ross has him.
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Here's the full Consultant video. And the other Coulson one-shot, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer.

Also, this CBS Sunday Morning segment on Whedon from yesterday morning includes a few quick clips of the Much Ado About Nothing adaptation he shot just after The Avengers wrapped.
 
Expendable. said:
So, you think you'll hate it? Cause I liked it with reservations and jett liked it a lot IIRC.
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No, I mean I think Iron Man and Cap are both great movies.

Anyway, the lesson here seems to be that it doesn't matter which of the Marvel movies you prefer, you'll still like The Avengers.
 
Expendable. said:
GIF it all up all you want. I'm in the minority, but not alone. It wasn't the best drama of the year, but it had more emotion it than any Marvel film yet, which is to say it had some.



Just The Avengers ones?

Captain America (A-)
The Avengers (B-)
Thor (C)
Iron Man (C)
The Incredible Hulk (C)
Iron Man 2 (D+)
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Move Hulk and Iron Man 2 above Iron Man and I would agree
 
Expendable. said:
It seems like everyone only remembers the first half of that movie. The rest is a forgettable drag.
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The only bad part of that movie is the part where he's directly fighting the villain in his dumb suit.Unfortunately, that's kind of the climax of the movie, but whatever. The rest of it was good.
 
I'm just going to take Expendable's post as a reason to post my Avengers movies rankings before I see Avengers:

Iron Man
Captain America
Thor
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
 
My rankings before The Avengers:

Iron Man (RDJ is just so good)
Captain America (liked the first half and ending a lot)
Thor (liked how Loki was a sympathetic villain)
Iron Man 2 (gets boring seeing him fight more iron men)
The Incredible Hulk (Ed Norton as Banner wasn't interesting, decent action but everything else sucked)
 
You know, even though I like her in How I Met Your Mother, I thought Cobie Smudlers was terrible in this. Like, everyone else was running laps around her acting-wise.
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Not to sound like a total dolt, but I get everyone else, but what's the value of Hawk dude with Bows and Arrows and ScarJo with a Glock against Alien invaders?
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Hawkeye is long range support and scout, Widow is a utility fighter. As for their big role in the finale,
Widow hijacks an alien flying thing and lures Loki to Hawkeye, who fires an explosive arrow at him. Loki catches it, but it blows up anyway and dismounts him. That's how he's stopped.
 
Tobor said:
Reviews have consistently pointed out that they do serve a purpose. There's no way to say more without spoilers, I'd imagine.
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Ignis Fatuus said:
Hawkeye is long range support and scout, Widow is a utility fighter. As for their big role in the finale, [Fuck I had to cover my eyes and try and delete at the same time lol]
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hamchan said:
Whedon actually made Hawkeye and Black Widow seem strong and not useless in this movie.
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Cool, just was something in the back of my head every time I see the ad where they reload at the end. Figured they would do something to make them useful. It just seems ...out of proportion first.
 
Expendable. said:
I guess I'll be in the minority on this one. I enjoyed myself, but was rarely invested in anything going on. It didn't have the layer of heart that Captain America had, which I was hoping Whedon would nail.
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I think it might be hard for people who aren't really fans of the Marvel Universe on a whole to really be completely "invested" in the idea of Avengers though. I don't disagree with the assessment that Captain America had more heart, but the tone here is intentionally different, and the investment is something that you either have for ALL the characters, or you will feel it is lacking. But...

There are some super entertaining moments, but I honestly did not feel any sort of stakes throughout, mostly due to the bland villain and his army. The first hour just feels like its going through the motions. We've already seen Nick Fury let these people know he is bringing them together, why the need to drag it out? Still, Whedon does inject lots of much-needed comedy and the pacing is spot-on. I just wish I cared about anything going on.
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That's the thing about the movie. It is VERY entertaining and Whedon keeps it well paced and uses a really nice variety of different types of humors and dramatic beats to keep things interesting. Even someone who isn't invested in the movie emotionally should have a good time. As for the stakes, there were never any stakes about the actual threat. I think that's the thing with this movie. You know they will all win in the end, and you know Loki is boned. They say so as much at multiple points of the movie.

The tension and drama is not about whether the world will be saved, but the moment to moment antics of the Avengers and how they they survive each other and actually get their act together. This is the essence of the Avengers story, and why it differs from all other normal stand alone superhero stories. It is a crossover filled with bickering and differences, and that makes it what it is.

As for the need to "drag" the SHIELD stuff on, trust me, there are TONS of people out there who really, really appreciate it. Avengers is every bit about Nick Fury and SHIELD, as it is about the team that he put together. Maybe if they had made a stand alone Nick Fury movie at some point they wouldn't need to do that, but since they didn't, they really did need it imo.

Also, the 3D was OK but I took my glasses off during one of the dialogue scenes and enjoyed myself much more. Perhaps a 2D viewing will add more.
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I watched it in digital 2D. I don't think I would have enjoyed myself as much in 3D at all because it tends to hurt my eyes and make it hard to concentrate for longer films. I really appreciate Whedon's steady-cam here, and the way he framed and choreographed the scenes were great. Lots of picture perfect action shots.
 
Uncle said:
It's revealed in The Consultant one-shot, which is on the Thor blu-ray. It also ties The Incredible Hulk nicely into the Avengers. You can find it on youtube, I think.
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both one-shots are linked in the MCU thread.

They're at the OP, if you havent seen The Avengers i advise against scrolling more than below the OP.
 
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Chris Evans may be playing Captain America in "The Avengers," but even he admits he geeked out the first time he saw Robert Downey, Jr. and Chris Hemsworth in costume.

Recently, Evans spoke with Moviefone -- the first in our weeklong series of discussions with the stars of the film -- about how nervous he was to chew out Downey on screen, Captain America's uncomfortable new cowl, and how he wants to do a quirky indie film next (well, unless Ridley Scott calls).

Scarlett Johansson told us that her suit was really uncomfortable. Did you have the same complaint about the new Captain America suit?

It is certainly more flexible than the first suit, but the cowl is a lot more difficult. The first one was a helmet so you could just take it on and off at will, but this one is actually this kind of rubber thing that goes into the suit. So once it's on, it's on. And it doesn't breathe.

So you were thrilled whenever the plot required you to take it off.

Yessss. You got it.

In your previous movies, like "The Losers," you've been kind of snarky. But in "The Avengers," everyone else gets the funny lines. Is it hard to be the straight man?

Yeah, you know, you like to have a few jokes. I'm used to kind of being the wiseass, but [Cap's] the straight man of this. He's kind of the moral compass and he's a goodhearted guy, so he's not exactly the shit-slinger. But everyone's got a role and that's his.

Was it fun to play a different side?

Oh, absolutely. That's the joy of acting.

Were you conscious of trying to live up to fan expectations while you were making the movie or did you try not to think about it?

Oh, you absolutely think about it. You have to. The hardcore fans -- the fanboys, the comic-book geeks -- they're the reason these movies get made. They're the ones that see it two, three, four times. If we didn't have that loyal fanbase, I'd be unemployed. So you have to make sure they're happy, but the way you try and do that is to become a fan. You have to read as many comic books as you can and see the character through their eyes and try to understand what they expect. So you certainly keep them in your head. But like I said, going online and checking ... everyone's going to have a different opinion. There's always going to be someone who doesn't like something, so you can't use that as your litmus test. You just have to respect what their expectations are.

What was your favorite scene to film?

I really liked the scene where
Downey and Hemsworth are fighting in the woods at night and I kind of break them up
. It was my first time seeing them both in their suits and I remember getting on the set and being really excited and kind of geeking out a little bit.
I just like that one shot after Thor hits the shield and we kind of level those trees and it's just the three of us standing there
. That's fun. That's cool. I feel lucky to be a part of it.

So this time around, Cap's a little more cynical, he's been through some stuff. I love the scenes he has with Tony Stark, where he challenges him to step up and be more of a team player. Can you talk about working with Downey?

I can't even say enough. He's an amazing, amazing, amazing person on and off set. As an actor, he's so giving. This very easily could have been the Iron Man movie. He's so capable of just dominating a scene. He owns the oxygen in every scene. He made sure to spread the wealth and made sure that everyone had a plot and purpose and everyone had substance. There were a couple of scenes we had to work together and I was nervous, just because it's Downey and I have to chew him out, which is not easy to do. But he just has a way of giving you a thumbs up and you go, "God, that felt good. Thank God." He's just so supportive. It's so nice when you meet people you respect and they're great in person because it's such a letdown when they're not.

Would you be game to do a different blockbuster that wasn't in the Marvel universe?

I like small movies, to be honest. From soup to nuts, I like the process of shooting smaller films. I think these big films, they're great and they're a spectacle and it's fun to be a part of it. But [they take] six months [to make] and it's long days in your trailer and two lines a day. Small indies can film in 21 days and you can bang through 10 pages of dialogue a day. When you go home, you feel like you made a movie. You feel like you acted and you feel like you worked. And then even on the backend, it's a much smaller intimate feel as the movie's released. I'm not a huge fan of press and red carpet and stuff like that. I just think a smaller film's more my speed. I think these will be the only blockbuster movies I'll try to get on board.

So which indie director do you want to call you up and offer you a role?

Oh man, I have so many favorite directors. I really like Wes Anderson. I love his movies, I think they're so interesting and unique. I like P.T. Anderson. I like Michel Gondry.

You like the quirky directors

Yeah. Just something unique. I like different movies. I like doing something that people haven't seen before. The first time I saw "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind," I was like, "That is completely original. I've never seen anything like that." The first time I saw "Royal Tenenbaums," I was like, "Wow, that's just such an interesting take."

Well, are you up for more "Captain America" and "Avengers?"

[Laughs] Whether I am or not, they've got me. I'm contractually obligated. But luckily I had a fantastic time doing them and I can't wait to do the next ones.
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http://news.moviefone.com/2012/04/27/chris-evans-avengers-interview_n_1459767.html?ref=moviefone
 
Jimmy Fallon interviewed Chris Evans tonight as well and god was it so bad.

That guy really can't interview for shit, I wish Craigy Ferg would've got sent some people from Avengers.
 
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