Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]

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I noticed a typo in the credits at the show I went to last night. It said Galaga was a property of NAMECO BANDAI, lol.
 
That shot in the trailer of the camera circling the Avengers and the Hulk roaring was soooo fucking good in the movie. Got major goosebumps. Goddamn the movie just kicked ass

I thought the effects were amazing for the most part and we take for granted just how well they've perfected Iron Man. Hulk looked soo much better than previous incarnations
 
I enjoyed the movie a lot. There were a lot of really good one-liners which was great. I thought the film would be more "serious" but was glad that it was really upbeat(idk why, all of the marvel films I've seen have been light hearted)
 
RatskyWatsky said:
BTW, this might have been asked already, but where was
War Machine?
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The Security Council were probably like "YEAH GET RHODEY UP IN THIS BITCH", like they wanted Abomination to be part of the Initiative instead of The Hulk, but Fury probably cock-blocked them. Rhodey's a military man, things get weird if the Avengers aren't expressly on S.H.I.E.L.D.'s side.
 
If you want the screen and sound just do the IMAX. The 3D will not take away from the film, nor does it give it anything. It's the post conversion people are naysaying, which is fine, but it's not harmful. I saw it yesterday again in 2D on a smaller screen and it just didn't compare. It was a local theater though.
 
Im catching this movie tonight in IMAX 3D with my girlfriend and one of her friends. I expect to have a good time, so I hope this movie does not disappoint.

A little off topic, but anyone from the Pittsburgh area know what IMAX screens available around here are best? I mean, I never really bother around here since a lot of the theaters are so small, and honestly don't know how well the IMAX screens hold up. For reference, I am seeing the movie at Loews Waterfront 22 Theater.
 
DarthWufei said:
If you want the screen and sound just do the IMAX. The 3D will not take away from the film, nor does it give it anything. It's the post conversion people are naysaying, which is fine, but it's not harmful. I saw it yesterday again in 2D on a smaller screen and it just didn't compare. It was a local theater though.
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good to hear. I'm watching it in less than 12 hours, got my ticket and seat ready for Imax Digital 3d. it's the grand opening of IMAX in my city and it's only in 3D. I hope the screen and audio is worth it.
 
Green Scar said:
The Security Council were probably like "YEAH GET RHODEY UP IN THIS BITCH", like they wanted Abomination to be part of the Initiative instead of The Hulk, but Fury probably cock-blocked them. Rhodey's a military man, things get weird if the Avengers aren't expressly on S.H.I.E.L.D.'s side.
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Tobor said:
Exactly where he should have been, out of the movie.
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But, like, if the world is going to be destroyed, wouldn't it help if
the good guys basically had a second Iron Man? Military protocol be damned!
 
By the way, which is more outrageous?

PhoenixDark saying Avatar wont break 250M in the US and it ended up gross 3 times that.

(OR)

Speedymaniac saying Avengers wont break 250M in the US when its opening weekend is being estimated close to 200M.
 
Callibretto said:
good to hear. I'm watching it in less than 12 hours, got my ticket and seat ready for Imax Digital 3d. it's the grand opening of IMAX in my city and it's only in 3D. I hope the screen and audio is worth it.
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You're definitely in for a treat then. :) If not for ticket prices, I would do IMAX for every movie.
 
RatskyWatsky said:
But, like, if the world is going to be destroyed, wouldn't it help if
the good guys basically had a second Iron Man? Military protocol be damned!
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Did the battle even last long enough for him to show up? Rhodey was probably on the other side of the country. There, that'll do for an answer. :P
 
artist said:
By the way, which is more outrageous?

PhoenixDark saying Avatar wont break 250M in the US and it ended up gross 3 times that.

(OR)

Speedymaniac saying Avengers wont break 250M in the US when its opening weekend is being estimated close to 200M.
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I guess at the time Avatar was more of a unknown in terms of how it would perform. On the other hand to ignore the hype surrounding The Avengers so close to release and actually predicting it would fall below both IM films is just ridiculous.
 
open_mouth_ said:
I liked it, but my only gripe was that the "army" at the end was pretty much cannon fodder for the avengers and you never really felt that the good guys were in any real sort of danger.
Hawkeye wasn't even taking cover. Plus, you had a lot of silly action moments in that final battle that reminded me of the mindless action of transformers 2/3.
I dunno... maybe I'm jaded
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Mildly agree about the first part, but what're you gonna do, it's a superhero movie and
nobody's really gonna get killed in the first movie
. But the third act, while similar in premise to something like the end of Transformers 3, basically does everything right that Transformers does wrong. They're actually great to compare since they're almost the same action sequence, except Avengers is geographically coherent, everyone has a reason for doing the things they're doing, it escalates beautifully, and it's filled with mini-story arcs and fantastic beats. T3 is just a big, chaotic, incoherent mess. Just to break down one bit in Avengers--

Hawkeye says he wants to put an arrow through Loki's eyeball
(action beat telegraphed)

Hawkeye gets a clear shot thanks to Iron Man and lets loose (and he can't miss because he's Hawkeye)
(here it comes!)

Right on target, but Loki catches it (of course! he's a god)
(fake out!)

But it's explosive.
(double fake-out!)

That's just one beat, and it's surprising, funny, and totally consistent with everyone's abilities. Michael Bay gives absolutely no thought to anything like this in Transformers.
 
artist said:
By the way, which is more outrageous?

PhoenixDark saying Avatar wont break 250M in the US and it ended up gross 3 times that.

(OR)

Speedymaniac saying Avengers wont break 250M in the US when its opening weekend is being estimated close to 200M.
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It's crazy that this guy will get the closest OW prediction I've seen for Avengers. His total is completely wack, of course, but still, bravo! :lol :lol :lol
 
open_mouth_ said:
I liked it, but my only gripe was that the "army" at the end was pretty much cannon fodder for the avengers and you never really felt that the good guys were in any real sort of danger.
Hawkeye wasn't even taking cover. Plus, you had a lot of silly action moments in that final battle that reminded me of the mindless action of transformers 2/3.
I dunno... maybe I'm jaded
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While I can totally understand why you'd feel the characters lacked a serious threat.... hell I agree despite loving the movie. I must point out, that the action sequences were decidedly NOT micheal bay in terms of execution. The sense of time and geography in that huge battle was something Bay (and even Nolan) struggles with.
For me the "threat" was the team not coming together or civillian casualties, by the film's end, I thought they had earned some straight up ass-kicking. If this is a trilogy, the power they showed here will be important when they meet a threat that DOES almost squash them. So basically, the greatest threat to the avengers in this movie was internal. Fitting for a first movie in the series and a good way to show how Loki actually works best.
 
This is the avatar Speedymaniac will be using for the next 3 months:

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If anyone can think of anything better feel free to post it.
 
Yes I thought the final action sequence was beautiful framed, shot and choreographed. Capt coordinating and giving orders was a lot of fun to see
 
Saw it last night with twelve other friends, most of them know next to nothing about Marvel's comics. They all really enjoyed it.

Thank God we won't have this Comic/Graphic Novel discussion with this movie.

EDIT: As a big fan of Captain America, I wished this movie was less Tony Stark & The Super Friends.
 
The question now is can the Avengers final numbers reach TDK. With word of mouth being so good, and everyone pretty much liking it, it should have some long legs.
 
artist said:
Pirates 3 suffered from Matrix Revolutions syndrome (not talking quality wise) but the spacing between the release dates of the two movies. Besides that I dont remember Pirates 3 being marketed as the final chapter by Disney.

TDKR getting more than the TDK OW is more probable than TDK's final gross.
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Yeah both the Pirates and Matrix films suffered from the "to be continued" problem after part. two. They were both shot back to back and then released with time in between. And IMO for both series, parts 2 and 3, seemed liked they were written well after the original movie and only after part 1 became a success.

The Nolan Batman trilogy is a less connected trilogy. In fact its not even a trilogy in that a story that started in the first one has to be finished. Its a trilogy simply because the same cast, crew, and director are doing three movies together and they want to end what they started in a self contained 3 movie universe. Each movie stands as a stand alone as well. A lot of casual movie goers didn't even know TDK was a sequel to BB.

The Nolan Batman movies won't have the appeal overseas and I think overall Avengers will edge it overseas. Same with other movies like Pirates. Big effects, action, and sole focus on action does well all around the world, where is Nolan's Batman has those things but it caters a lot less to that casual action movie fan. I wouldn't be surprised if Spiderman also does better than TDKR overseas.

I think TDKR edges out Avengers domestically, keeps close with Avengers overseas (thanks to China), but seeing the #s now TDKR will not beat Avengers WW.
 
Staccat0 said:
While I can totally understand why you'd feel the characters lacked a serious threat.... hell I agree despite loving the movie. I must point out, that the action sequences were decidedly NOT micheal bay in terms of execution. The sense of time and geography in that huge battle was something Bay (and even Nolan) struggles with.
For me the "threat" was the team not coming together or civillian casualties, by the film's end, I thought they had earned some straight up ass-kicking. If this is a trilogy, the power they showed here will be important when they meet a threat that DOES almost squash them. So basically, the greatest threat to the avengers in this movie was internal. Fitting for a first movie in the series and a good way to show how Loki actually works best.
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Another way to look at it is that per the mid credit ending, the chitauri completely underestimated mankind and expected virtually no resistance.

Those troops that came through weren't expecting gods and iron men and rampaging hulks, they were expecting cops and the US army.
 
Good Job Bob said:
I hope Shane Black can make War Machine awesome again.
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Get rid of Cheadle and he's half way there.

Seriously though, I know WM is a part of IM, but I'd much rather they didn't bring him back in IM3. Bring him into Avengers, yeah...but having WM in the IM movies just doesn't work. IMO of course.
 
I wasn't that impressed for the first hour or so, but
the first hulk appearance
pinpoints where this movie really picks up. Most impressed by how genuinely funny it is.
Hulk was the absolute star of this movie. Even the pure slapstick moments just worked, like him smashing Loki around and punching Thor out of nowhere.


The finale of this movie was something else. The blu-ray will be mine, just so see that again.
 
Superman00 said:
Battleship and MIB3 may make a dent, but Dark Shadows won't do anything.
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Honestly I don't think Battleship is going to have a lot of appeal. It has a massive marketing campaign, a ridiculous premise, and no A list actors. If John Carter hadn't already taken that crown id have it pegged as bomb of the summer.

Dark shadows might surprise...I didn't like the trailer but its been growing on me.
 
Superman00 said:
Battleship and MIB3 may make a dent, but Dark Shadows won't do anything.
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Well this is the first big summer movie. Immediate threats at MIB3 and Battleship but the movies in June might also take huge portions away.

Snow White movie looks awesome. Then Spiderman.

Still it should make the majority of its money by then.
 
Tobor said:
I'd be more impressed if he wrote him out of the movie.

Have him die or close to it in the first act to motivate Tony.
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Doubt he could kill off a character like Rhodes unless Marvel Studios wanted it.

Speedymanic said:
Get rid of Cheadle and he's half way there.
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He's already signed back on.

I didn't enjoy his performance in IM2 either but he's generally a good actor, maybe they'll make it work this time around.
 
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