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Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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Keylime
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Dumb question: Hawkeye would totally fuck-up Captain America in a 1:1 confrontation, right? Like both dudes start 50 yards away from each other...Hawkeye wins that fight everytime...right?
My friend is flipping a lid that Captain America would somehow block all his shots and close the gap or toss his shield at him or something. Shit would not happen. Hawkeye would hit him in the foot, hit him in the shoulder...SOMETHING...he'd be fucked before he got within striking distance.
...right?!
My friend is flipping a lid that Captain America would somehow block all his shots and close the gap or toss his shield at him or something. Shit would not happen. Hawkeye would hit him in the foot, hit him in the shoulder...SOMETHING...he'd be fucked before he got within striking distance.
...right?!
No, Cap is not just superfit, he is also a master of strategy. He would find a way to close the gap. It would still be a close fight though.
Cap would win.
StriKeVillain
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Well, Hawkeye owns Cap pretty free in UMvC. That keep away game is hard to get in on.
I dunno, I think the captain will just chuck his trashcan lid and knock him out.
Captain America would wreck the joke character Hawkeye.
WanderingWind
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No way. If he can effectively dodge bullets, an arrow isn't even getting close. Not to mention, even in the movies, he's strong enough to force open heavy steel doors. Cap would rock the crap out of Hawkeye based on the movies alone, and in the comics they've fought a few times and Cap wins
Batman wins.
Keylime
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What?! It's not like Captain America has the ability to block his entire body with that little shield. Hawkeye showed that he can pretty much hit anything he wants, and it's not like Captain has the ability to have insta-reflexes.
I fail to see how Cap closes the gap without getting ganked by a dozen arrows.
50 yard distance should take him at best 4-5 seconds to close assuming he's just charging full speed and assuming he's the peak of human condition.
I fail to see how Cap closes the gap without getting ganked by a dozen arrows.
50 yard distance should take him at best 4-5 seconds to close assuming he's just charging full speed and assuming he's the peak of human condition.
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Whoever is writing this highly fictitious scenario decides who wins.
StarCreator
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Lots of near-superhuman gymnastics and ridiculous prowess in shield-throwing.
Hot Coldman
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Hawkeye's arrows hit whereever he's aiming, 100% of the time.
Doesn't mean whatever's he aiming at couldn't have moved in the time between firing the arrow and it reaching its destination. Cap is a swift motherfucker.
Doesn't mean whatever's he aiming at couldn't have moved in the time between firing the arrow and it reaching its destination. Cap is a swift motherfucker.
Dude, he's not at the peak of human condition he was the first Super Soldier. He could probably throw his Shield faster than Hawkeye could shoot an arrow and his with his reflexes he wouldn't even have to use his Shield to block an arrow.
That said, someone would probably write Hawkeye with a fuckin' Anti-Captain Arrow or something really stupid like that. (God I hate Hawkeye)
Keylime
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I must really not understand how Captain America works, because movie Captain America is pretty much a total pushover. He basically comes across as someone who's as gifted physically as two top tier athletes combined...but the smarts aspects isn't played up at all in the movie. He issues some orders to people in one scene, and that's about it as far as the "smarts" department is presented.
Movie Hawkeye owns Movie Captain America.
Movie Hawkeye owns Movie Captain America.
WanderingWind
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Connery was a shitty Bond.
PhoncipleBone
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While Cap would wreck Hawkeye's shit any day, calling Hawkeye a joke character is going too far.
They have went to combat against one another in the comics. There's a few comic panels on the net that aren't in English if people want to search for them. The Cpt. America is Bucky Barnes though.
Only way Hawkeye is able to have an advantage is to keep the distance. If Black Widow is able to win in hand-to-hand combat, Hawkeye has no chance against the Captain.
Hawkeye hits his targets 100% of the time.
Cap can block attacks 100% of the time.
So basically Cap has taken away Hawkeye's biggest and only power. Cap closes the gap while blocking Hawkeye's arrows and then lays one ass whoopin' on him. As the movie Avengers showed Hawkeye is no physical match for Black Widow let alone Cap.
Theorem fucking proved.
Cap can block attacks 100% of the time.
So basically Cap has taken away Hawkeye's biggest and only power. Cap closes the gap while blocking Hawkeye's arrows and then lays one ass whoopin' on him. As the movie Avengers showed Hawkeye is no physical match for Black Widow let alone Cap.
Theorem fucking proved.
If you're serious, no. He would not only block Hawkeye's shots but also time a shield throw just right to cleanly behead Hawkeye.
BELIEVE
Doesn't Cap lose his shield the moment he throws it? Which is like his one move. What a horrible superhero. Hawkeye sucks too
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Besides what others said, Hawkeye can only fire one arrow at a time. Cap has heightened reflexes as well; he'd have a real chance of blocking enough individual arrows to get close enough to throw the shield or execute another maneuver.
If Hawkeye was playing it smart, he'd never allow himself to start the fight 50 feet away; he'd find a much better position and force Cap to come to him in a way that left Cap exposed.
Strategy BATTEL!
It can bounce and come back and Hawkeye sucks more.
wat. Cap is awesome.
I guess she kind of had to beat him or he would have killed her.
Sam Mendes killed Bond once and will do it again.
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Keylime
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Man...Movie Captain does not exude the awesomeness you guys are all presenting here. Movie Cap would get busted up big time.
Do you guys think Movie Cap is at all a good representation of Cap's abilities in the comics, then? I swear, Movie Cap doesn't inspire any confidence in me that he could stand toe-to-toe with a master marksman starting at a large distance apart.
Do you guys think Movie Cap is at all a good representation of Cap's abilities in the comics, then? I swear, Movie Cap doesn't inspire any confidence in me that he could stand toe-to-toe with a master marksman starting at a large distance apart.
I'd put shorter odds on Black Widow vs Capt than Hawkeye vs Capt. The only way Hawkeye could be a real hero like Captain America is if the writer went totally off his rocker and gave Hawkeye some kind of Nuclear Arrow that only explodes if it's within 50 yards of Captain America, thus killing them both.
The dude stood toe-to-toe with Loki for a brief time, which is WAAAAY more than you can say for Hawkeye, who got chumped by Loki.
I was thinking speed but good point. hehe
50 yards would take Cap probably 3 seconds. Which is 1-2 arrows from Hawkeye. He would block one with his shield dodge the other and separate his head from his shoulders with his shield.
My one gripe with this movie is Captain America isn't as badass as he should be.
Hot Coldman
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What's Hawkeye's close quarters combat skills like? I assume, being a pretty muscular dude, he can handle himself in a fight without his bow, but I realise I have no idea what he'd be like up against the big boys.
I can't remember him fighting without his bow at all in this film.
edit: Hulk over Thor is wrong on so many levels.
I can't remember him fighting without his bow at all in this film.
edit: Hulk over Thor is wrong on so many levels.
He fought Widow hand to hand, well hand to Bow.
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Warp Cap up with a Dead Arrow?
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martial arts skills. but is below peak human unlike the rest of the avengers minus stark sans suit.
he struggled with Widow. he would be dead against the other guys
He fought Black Widow with a knife and lost.
They do show him fighting with his bow in melee combat. He used it like a staff.
Keylime
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There was nothing about their fight (Loki v. Cap) that looked like it was anything special. They weren't fighting quickly or seemingly with great strength. It was just a few punches and kicks if I remember right. Just some dude in a silly blue outfit throwing mediocre punches and kicks!
Is Loki some kind of hand to hand fighting expert or something?
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