Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]

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They finally nailed Hulk in this movie.

The only problem with I had was that he kept reverting to that one hunched pose. Like one side of his body was heavier than the other
 
They finally nailed Hulk in this movie.

The only problem with I had was that he kept reverting to that one hunched pose. Like one side of his body was heavier than the other

My impression is they modeled some of his movements from apes. He sometimes pounds his fists on the ground too.

No idea why they did that though.
 
May see this again for the fourth time. Cousin just finished her last college class yesterday (graduating Saturday) and is itching to go watch this movie.

Most likely watching in 2D as the only times for IMAX are absolutely stupid - thanks to Dark Shadows taking the better times.
 
Wasn't Kirby's Hulk kind of ape like?

eh, not really. More frankenstein/Dr Jekyll-Mr. Hide than anything. I've been reading the original 1960's Avengers comics (via Marvel Masterworks paperbacks), and Hulk can talk and act normal and all that.

Kirby's drawing of Hulk isn't all that consistent, either. There are times when Hulk only has 3 toes.
 
Kirby's Hulk

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I meant like this:

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I get the ape behavior, but in more than a couple shots, it was like he took on the exact same posture. And yeah, Kirby's Hulk behaved like a large human. Lou Ferrigno Hulk except smart perhaps.

Another reason for me go see it again :P
 
Yeah, here in Sweden it's also Torsdag which literally means Thor's day (Thor is spelled Tor in Swedish). I also live right next to a whole island dedicated to him, Torsö (literally Thor's island).
 
My only critique of Hulk in this movie was the ape-ness to him in some scenes. I was almost expecting him to go into a sprint on all four at some points. Other than that though, it's spot on. Just my preference.
 
I don't get why the Hulk was out of control and chasing Black Widow when you first see him, but then later Banner has no problem controlling him. Did I miss something?
 
Definitely the best depiction of Hulk, and Mark Ruffalo is now my favorite Banner.

Hope we see a Hulk 2 with more Ruffalo - it'd be a shame to switch out actors again.

I don't get why the Hulk was out of control and chasing Black Widow when you first see him, but then later Banner has no problem controlling him. Did I miss something?
This puzzled me, too. My theory is that when Hulk emerges, he has to destroy something. With Black Widow, she was the only person there, so he locks on. Same with the harrier jet. During the invasion, the city is filled with targets who are actually aggressive so they seem to take precedence.
 
I don't get why the Hulk was out of control and chasing Black Widow when you first see him, but then later Banner has no problem controlling him. Did I miss something?
Hulk hates SHIELD. They're treating Hulk and Banner as seperate personalities. He can control the transformation, but Hulk acts based on who he wants to fight the most.

I'm surprised he didn't break her ribs after that smack
 
I don't get why the Hulk was out of control and chasing Black Widow when you first see him, but then later Banner has no problem controlling him. Did I miss something?

uncontrolled transformation vs controlled transformation?
 
Also while we're on the topic of days

Sunday - literally Sun Day
Monday - Moon Day
Tuesday - Tyr's Day (Norse god)
Wednesday - Odin's Day (Norse god)
Thursday - Thor's Day (Norse god)
Friday - Freya's Day (Norse god)
Saturday - Saturn Day (named after the planet, which was named after a Roman god)

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tl;dr Thor 2 better release in the US on a Thursday (they did it for Australia on the first Thor)

Because Odin used to be Wodan.


In German it's (according to wiki)

Montag-Mondtag (day of the moon)

Dienstag-comes from the god Thyr by the way of his latinized name replacing the dies martis, the day of Mars

Mittwoch- from Mitte (mid) der Woche (week)

Donnerstag - Donner=thunder, named after Thor or rather his special god power as god of thunder

Freitag-from Freya

Samstag-over a lot of different spelling this seems to come from Sabbatai, star of the Sabbath (=Saturn)

Sonntag- Sonne=sun

Thank you, Germanic tribes, for making the week so much cooler.
 
I don't get why the Hulk was out of control and chasing Black Widow when you first see him, but then later Banner has no problem controlling him. Did I miss something?

That bugged me to until I was thinking why did they bother planning on getting Loki captured and then attacking the helicarrier at all? All it was a warm up exercise for the Avengers, Loki would have been better off just attacking NYC and skipping the dumb attack which was just an excuse for a big action scene in the end.
 
That bugged me to until I was thinking why did they bother planning on getting Loki captured and then attacking the helicarrier at all? All it was a warm up exercise for the Avengers, Loki would have been better off just attacking NYC and skipping the dumb attack which was just an excuse for a big action scene in the end.

Banner retains more control when he transforms of his choosing. If its out of rage he just goes berserk.
 
That bugged me to until I was thinking why did they bother planning on getting Loki captured and then attacking the helicarrier at all? All it was a warm up exercise for the Avengers, Loki would have been better off just attacking NYC and skipping the dumb attack which was just an excuse for a big action scene in the end.

Loki wanted The Hulk to kill the Avengers, or at least disband them. Considering Loki did control Hulk on the very first issue of the comic, he might have even planned to have him leading his troops.
 
People seriously didn't notice that Loki's staff was affecting everyone, and thus also the Hulk? The camera focused on the staff for like 10 seconds!
 
People seriously didn't notice that Loki's staff was affecting everyone, and thus also the Hulk? The camera focused on the staff for like 10 seconds!
It was amplifying the thoughts they already had.

And how did it affect Tony if it didn't work the 2nd time, huh

HUH

HUH
 
That was a different aspect of the staff. When he touches there heart with the staff, the tezzeract power turns them into slaves into the owner of the staff.

Tony's heart is protected by the ark reactor.
 
It was amplifying the thoughts they already had.

And how did it affect Tony if it didn't work the 2nd time, huh

HUH

HUH
Uh, cuz it wasn't the same? The second time he was trying to take him over completely, on the helicarrier it was more like a general signal the thing was emitting.
 
I'm amazed that so many people ask the same question about how Banner was able to control the Hulk during the final battle. Not just here on gaf, but other forums I frequent and in real life.

It clicked for me the first time I saw it.
 
That was a different aspect of the staff. When he touches there heart with the staff, the tezzeract power turns them into slaves into the owner of the staff.

Tony's heart is protected by the ark reactor.
Yeah I was hoping there wasn't a crazy answer to that, it was just skin contact I guess.
 
The bits of humor, specifically
Loki tapping Stark and going, "This usually works." and Hulk punching Thor
, really improved the movie for me. I love Nolan's Batman flicks, but Avengers is a nice counterpoint that doesn't take itself too seriously.
I'm amazed that so many people ask the same question about how Banner was able to control the Hulk during the final battle. Not just here on gaf, but other forums I frequent and in real life.

It clicked for me the first time I saw it.
Seriously. Banner picks up the staff to make it even more obvious.
 
I'm amazed that so many people ask the same question about how Banner was able to control the Hulk during the final battle. Not just here on gaf, but other forums I frequent and in real life.

It clicked for me the first time I saw it.

The bits of humor, specifically [spoilers]Loki tapping Stark and going, "This usually works." and Hulk punching Thor[/spoiler], really improved the movie for me. I love Nolan's Batman flicks, but Avengers is a nice counterpoint that doesn't take itself too seriously.

Seriously. Banner picks up the staff to make it even more obvious.

Same goes for me. Hell, you can watch the tesseract energy pulsing before Banner even picks up the staff so you know Loki's got a hand in tricking everyone. By the time Banner picks up the staff, you know that shit was gonna go down at that moment (minus Hawkeye's exploding arrow).
 
The bits of humor, specifically [spoilers]Loki tapping Stark and going, "This usually works." and Hulk punching Thor[/spoiler], really improved the movie for me. I love Nolan's Batman flicks, but Avengers is a nice counterpoint that doesn't take itself too seriously.

Seriously. Banner picks up the staff to make it even more obvious.

yeah you know...god of mischief and all.... I dont see what the confusion is either.
 
The people confused by the staff thing would probably love the old Claremont X-Men stuff where every time any one uses a power they have to go to great depths yelling out whatever it is they're exactly doing :p
 
The people confused by the staff thing would probably love the old Claremont X-Men stuff where every time any one uses a power they have to go to great depths yelling out whatever it is they're exactly doing :p

Ugh... I remember reading that stuff as a kid during his run. I wanted to bash my head into a wall for being treated like an idiot even though I had figured it out well beforehand.
 
The people confused by the staff thing would probably love the old Claremont X-Men stuff where every time any one uses a power they have to go to great depths yelling out whatever it is they're exactly doing :p
Characters verbally describing what they're doing is super old school, even for Claremont :P

The staff was obviously the case, but I don't like it because it kinda robs the scene/characters of real tension.

They could also use 60s cover writing.

"OH NO! THE WICKED VILLAIN LOKI, BROTHER OF THOR, HAS USED HIS MAGIC STAFF OF OUTER SPACE... TO TURN THE INCREDIBLE HULK AGAINST US, THE AVENGERS!"
Jack Kirby could make it work, DAMMIT *shakes fist*
 
The people confused by the staff thing would probably love the old Claremont X-Men stuff where every time any one uses a power they have to go to great depths yelling out whatever it is they're exactly doing :p

They could also use 60s cover writing.

"OH NO! THE WICKED VILLAIN LOKI, BROTHER OF THOR, HAS USED HIS MAGIC STAFF OF OUTER SPACE... TO TURN THE INCREDIBLE HULK AGAINST US, THE AVENGERS!"
 
Characters verbally describing what they're doing is super old school :P

The staff was obviously the case, but I don't like it because it kinda robs the scene/characters of real tension.

Didn't mind it as it gives Loki some more credence as the trickster god of manipulation and the like.
 
So Loki was controlling Hulk? How did he get the initial control over him? He never tapped him or anything. Banner picking up the staff is kind of a question mark for me--why did he pick it up in the first place? If Loki already was controlling him at that point, it is not really explained how he was doing it, as he never tapped him. And if it started after he picked up the staff, why did he pick it up in the first place?

And how did the control break?

Not saying I disagree, just curious how this went down.
 
So Loki was controlling Hulk? How did he get the initial control over him? He never tapped him or anything. Banner picking up the staff is kind of a question mark for me--why did he pick it up in the first place? If Loki already was controlling him at that point, it is not really explained how he was doing it, as he never tapped him. And if it started after he picked up the staff, why did he pick it up in the first place?

And how did the control break?

Not saying I disagree, just curious how this went down.

Tesseract was emitting low-level gamma rays and since gamma rays were responsible for Hulk, well, it's easy to see how a) Loki could manipulate him and b) why Banner would pick it up in the first place - since the program that they were running detected that it was the staff all along being the source.

Control broke when Hulk was away from Loki and the staff basically.
 
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