Survivor: One World |OT| Thread of Stupid Name, Promising Twist
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Won't Kat be undergoing open heart surgery soon? This season was taped last summer-ish right?
SecretMoblin
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I don't care about the cast being spoiled, but I suppose it's better to err on the side of caution.
I hate the idea of Fans vs. Favorites, honestly. Just do an all-stars season if you're going to bring people back. I guess at least we're guaranteed that the new players will be fans and not recruits. But still: with a setup like this, none of the new players are going to have enough of an edit to ever be "favorites" themselves. It will make any interesting personalities or strategy totally moot, because the show will focus entirely on the returning players. Like always!
If the cast is true, I'm not excited at all about Brandon, Phillip, or Francesca (though I liked her on her season). Brandon and Phillip in particular were all personality - bad ones, at that - and no gameplay. The others should be very interesting (yay Brenda), but I'd still rather see them in an all-stars setting.
If the cast is true, I'm not excited at all about Brandon, Phillip, or Francesca (though I liked her on her season). Brandon and Phillip in particular were all personality - bad ones, at that - and no gameplay. The others should be very interesting (yay Brenda), but I'd still rather see them in an all-stars setting.
Incendiary
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Oh wow. I hope those spoilers aren't accurate.
Francesca? As in first boot Francesca from Redemption Island? Seriously? This is a terrible favorites list. Brandon's only there to bring the Hantz name around for a fifth time...Shane's great but him being the only pre-Heroes vs. Villain castaway is a drag. Oh wait, Corinne is too but she was such a bitch and clearly playing up the bitchy role just to get cast in an All-Star situation like this. They could have gotten way better people than Shambo and Francesca as well...what about Holly or Jan from Brenda's season? Ugh.
Not a fan of this line-up. I hope it's false.
Not a fan of this line-up. I hope it's false.
It was taped last Augustish, and I think at the reunion they said she had a fine bill of health and had already done the surgery...I could see her being cleared to go.
QFT.
SecretMoblin
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That's quite the understatement, especially for the past several seasons.
I miss pre-bullshit twist BB.
BigJonsson
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I only recognized a few names on that list and I've seen just about every season, I'd need pictures to jog my memory...........or a lot of those favourites aren't favourites at all!
They wouldn't brink back Kourtney since it was her fault she broke her hand. The told her the right wall to fall on the trampoline, and she didn't do it. Colton fate for example was out of his hands, he deserves a second chance. Except I think the producers don't like him because of how racist and insensitive he is.
No one gets between big brother and their twist, especially not another man. ew.
Pachterballs
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because it was kind of boring
SuperSonic1305
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Not a big fan of the last few winners. I guess Rob and Fabio were alright but you'd have to go back to JT for a guy I 100% totally agreed with.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Wow.
Francesca would be an idiotic returning player. In fact, almost all of those choices are dumb. I mean, Troyzan and Brenda are decent.
I really hope that's fake.
yellowjacket25
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The biggest problem was that after the 6-6 merge, the show basically ended and every boot after that was pretty obvious. That and the fact that only 2-3 people played with any strategy the entire game. There were way too many people in this season who basically did nothing.
NYR
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See, Redemption Island solves with this problem, that is why in theory, it's a good idea, it's a shame it didn't work out as well. No matter who you vote out, they might come back. They really need to push it so more people come back, not just once in the game.
VGChampion
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Holy shit that sounds like the worst season yet.
I can't stand watching Cochran or Brandon, I don't think I can handle anymore Philip. Francesca was booted out almost instantly so I don't see how she's even a favorite, Shambo I don't want to see again, and I can take or leave Brenda / Corinne. Kat, Shane, and Troyzan are fine.
SecretMoblin
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Incendiary
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lazybones18
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^I guess it's a blessing I highlighted that (and the much bigger one before it) cause now I know that I might pass on S26
This is the first season of Survivor I watched since the first one and I was pretty entertained, at least until they took out Troyzan. Would have liked to see him win it.
Alicia pissed me off more than Colton and I don't think she should ever be allowed to teach special needs kids again. Just a terrible person all around. I wouldn't be surprised if she's one of those that verbally abuse these kids and are then caught with recordings. And Christina was hot but goddamn, was she the stupidest player there. She'd do nothing but snitch on how people were going to vote, and in the second-to-last (I think) tribal council she stressed how she WAS strategizing, and then gave some random vote instead of going with Troyzan's alliance! And all knowing that she was just going to be sacrificed by the girls afterwards. WTF!!! Worst player in the entire season. She wasn't even smart enough to harbor a vendetta against Alicia after the way she treated her with Colton.
Kim did a good job, and had some great luck with the challenges. Though like everyone else says, she mainly manipulated a bunch of fools. Congrats are still in place.
What are the best seasons of Survivor to watch?
Alicia pissed me off more than Colton and I don't think she should ever be allowed to teach special needs kids again. Just a terrible person all around. I wouldn't be surprised if she's one of those that verbally abuse these kids and are then caught with recordings. And Christina was hot but goddamn, was she the stupidest player there. She'd do nothing but snitch on how people were going to vote, and in the second-to-last (I think) tribal council she stressed how she WAS strategizing, and then gave some random vote instead of going with Troyzan's alliance! And all knowing that she was just going to be sacrificed by the girls afterwards. WTF!!! Worst player in the entire season. She wasn't even smart enough to harbor a vendetta against Alicia after the way she treated her with Colton.
Kim did a good job, and had some great luck with the challenges. Though like everyone else says, she mainly manipulated a bunch of fools. Congrats are still in place.
What are the best seasons of Survivor to watch?
SecretMoblin
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A lot of fans love Season 6 (Survivor: The Amazon). It had a great cast, fantastic challenges, plenty of entertaining moments, and an interesting outcome. I would also recommend Season 15 (Survivor: China) for similar reasons, Season 8 (Survivor: All-Stars) for pure zaniness, Season 16 (Survivor Micronesia: Fans vs. Favorites) for more zaniness, and Season 13 (Survivor: Cook Islands) for a great story arc. There are several other good seasons, but those are the ones that consistently come up as among the best.
Some have argued that the show "jumped the shark" around Season 19 (because of the winner, which I won't spoil) or Season 20, Heroes vs. Villains. The last several seasons have been pretty dull.
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KuwabaraTheMan
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Heroes vs Villains was also a great season. I think that basically covers the accepted 'canon' of great Survivor seasons. Cook Islands and China are the two best for me.
I'll also second Vanuatu, which is among my favorites. Guatemala is another one which I really enjoyed.
I'll also second Vanuatu, which is among my favorites. Guatemala is another one which I really enjoyed.
SecretMoblin
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I'll second the Guatemala love. It's underrated as a season. Vanuatu had some annoying personalities, but I think it also had some of the best challenges in the history of the show. Some of those challenge designs were simply incredible.
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I'd also argue that for Troyzan fans arguably the best season is Vanuatu.
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It's one of the "forgotten" seasons, in a way -- though it was the first to pit retreads against new players. But I enjoyed it, too. Stephenie (who was likable, if a bit bland, in Palau) was a fascinating contestant in her second go-round. Whereas this season was
all about how Kim won the game,
all about how Stephenie lost it, despite being the dominant player -- kind of like Russell in Samoa
And Vanuatu is a cool season, particularly post-merge.
Incendiary
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Heroes vs. Villains was terrible. It was
Russell dominating the editing when there were so many other fantastic stories.
non-epic final 4 tribal council fire-making challenge that put the jury to sleep.
In my opinion, seasons were as follows:
God Tier
Borneo (S1), Australia (S2), Amazon (S6), China (S15)
Great Tier
Africa (S3), Vanuatu (S9), Guatemala (S11), Gabon (S17)
Good Tier
Marquesas (S4), Pearl Islands (S7), Fans v. Favorites (S16), Tocantins (S18), One World (S24)
Mediocre Tier
Thailand (S5), Exile Island (S12), Fiji (S14), Nicaragua (S21)
Bad Tier
All-Stars (S8), Palau (S10), Cook Islands (S13), Heroes vs. Villains (S20), South Pacific (S23)
God-Awful Tier
Samoa (S19), Redemption Island (S22)
Crazymoogle
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(You knew some debate was inevitable here)
Gabon? Really? With that final three? No thanks :/
KuwabaraTheMan
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Gabon had one of the worst final threes, but the season up until that point was great. It had a strong cast, and there were some good twists throughout. It's just a shame that it and Exile Island have the two worst winners of all time. Both seasons were good prior to the letdown endings.
Not sure I'd agree with any of those seasons being worse than Fiji, though. That was just a bad season (outside of having one of the best blindsides in history).
I have some major issues with the edit of Heroes vs Villains for just that reason, but I still found it a good season due to the cast and having a great winner. It's a flawed season, but it was a lot of fun to watch for me.
I loved Yul, and I thought Ozzy was decent in his first time out. Cook Islands just had such a great story, and it executed so much right. It's not China tier, but I put it up there pretty high.
SecretMoblin
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Yeah, Gabon was an incredibly frustrating season (by the end). The landscape, however, is one of the best in the history of the show. That one moment where they see
is just magnificent television.
I really liked Cook Islands just because it was the ultimate non-scripted realization of an
. Also: Parvati, Penner, Yul, and Ozzy. The challenges were pretty routine and boring, I thought.
It's very rare to see people disagree that Amazon and China are among the best. It's good to see that everyone here is on the same page.
elephants across the river
I really liked Cook Islands just because it was the ultimate non-scripted realization of an
underdog story
Much of the reason Ozzy dominated all season long was because most of the challenges relied heavily on swimming ability.
It's very rare to see people disagree that Amazon and China are among the best. It's good to see that everyone here is on the same page.
yellowjacket25
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I thought it was a fun season to watch also. I disagree about the winner though. Sandra is the luckiest player in Survivor history and didn't really deserve either one of her wins.
VGChampion
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Survivor needs more water challenges. It's one of the places they shine best. Gabon would be an amazing season if Suzy, Crystal, and Kenny weren't in the game but they are, and I can't stand them. Guatemala I love.
Plus it was just a cool location.
And China is amazing. Vanuatu and Palau are some of my favorite seasons as well. Man, so many good ones in the earlier days.
We desperately need a new location though.
The reward where Judd got to pick everyone's dinner was an amazing idea that they sadly haven't used again.
And China is amazing. Vanuatu and Palau are some of my favorite seasons as well. Man, so many good ones in the earlier days.
We desperately need a new location though.
SecretMoblin
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Regarding the water challenges, there was a recap of One World on RTVZone where someone mentioned offhandedly that they cut swimming challenges out of the show, presumably for safety reasons. There were a few seasons where it seemed that every single challenge took place in the water - especially
- but some of the best and most exciting challenges have been in the water.
Pearl Islands, which had so many "dive into the water and retrieve something" challenges that it was just boring
Incendiary
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Yeah, the final three was kind of lame but the cast was great, the challenges were pretty unique and there were some great moments and several twists and turns. And of the final three, the winner was actually the least objectionable. I'd rewatch it, and basically everything I put in God and Great tier are seasons I'd own and rewatch on my own. Good I'd rewatch but probably wouldn't buy them myself. Mediocre I'd watch with people who'd never seen them...bad and awful I'd hate to rewatch.
Fiji was tough to rank because the winner was my favorite cast member of the season and they played extremely well, and it also had the best blindside ever, but a lot of the cast just sucked.
I think I would have enjoyed HvV a lot more if Russell
had been taken out the episode where Tyson made his idiot move
She deserved her first win. She was a hell of a lot more lucky the second time around, although she still played well...but it had a lot more to do with Russell being an idiot.
You don't win Survivor twice by luck.
I can't remember all the details of Sandra's seasons, but for some reason I always seemed to remember both of her wins as being very empty.
If she's who I'm thinking of, she did absolutely nothing and ended up winning the game twice. She made no big moves, stayed in the back, and was the recipient of bitter jury syndrome both times.
KuwabaraTheMan
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She made it to the end and convinced the jury to vote for her to win. The first time she didn't receive a single vote against her and won by a vote of 6-1. Her second time she received only a single valid vote against her (three if you count the two her idol wiped out) and won 6-3.
She didn't make big moves, but that's ultimately irrelevant. The goal of Survivor is to get to Day 39 and convince the jury to vote for you, and Sandra is a pro at that. She does a great job at essentially never having anyone even consider voting her out, and she has a dominant social game and understands perfectly how to play the jury.
Yep, this. She doesn't play a style of game that translates well for dramatic television, but she's a shrewd and intelligent player.
SecretMoblin
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Relitigating Sandra already?
Again, it's important to remember that entertaining gameplay does not always equal good gameplay. Sandra may not have been an electrifying presence in her seasons, but she is a damn good player.
Again, it's important to remember that entertaining gameplay does not always equal good gameplay. Sandra may not have been an electrifying presence in her seasons, but she is a damn good player.
Crazymoogle
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Sandra
coasted a bit thanks to Rupert, but eventually did have some social strategy. She had a secret girls alliance to kill the men's alliance (Burton), and then successfully forced Lillian into making the ultimate mistake (taking her to the final 2 over the pre-Russell ultimate villain, Jon). From there she just had to say that it was Lillian's fault they were all on the jury bench.
Arguably both games were very risky - a coin toss could have killed her. But sometimes that's how the game works.
yellowjacket25
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She won the first time because Lil hated Johnny Fairplay so much that she was willing to give up a million dollars to keep him out of the finals. She won the second time because Russell and Parvati thought she would be the easiest to beat. They were right, but unfortunately they couldn't beat anybody else either.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Parvati didn't think that. She knew that Sandra was the toughest to beat and tried to convince Russell to take Jerri to the end, but Russell wasn't listening to her. Largely because Russell has absolutely no clue how the game of Survivor works.
yellowjacket25
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They weren't going to beat Jerri either. I remember them asking at the reunion who would have voted for Jerri and she would have won in a landslide. There isn't a single person who they could have beaten. Sandra just happened to be the lucky one.
Incendiary
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What I found the most interesting in Heroes vs. Villains was that the winner/non-winner stigma didn't seem to be a factor at all, compared to All-Stars where it was basically what everyone talked about. If Parvati had taken Jerri, she could have argued at the Jury that she was the only previous winner in the finals which could have scored her points over Jerri.
Harry Potter
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I'd welcome this. I'm bored of tropical.
I'd prefer it maybe in New Zealand. Just I hate repeat locations. More opportunity for like a winter/mountain/snowy season, also more of a wetlands/warmer season.
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