Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]

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I thought Hawkeye was amazing, my only problem being he spent most of the movie working for the enemy. Granted my bias toward his character should be obvious
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Yep

Where is that gif where he takes out an alien flying thing without even looking at it.
 
Aw, are you kidding?

He was reconsidering whether or not he was worthy to wield Mjolnir, seeing as he considered himself the cause of the entire crisis having been banished to Midgard in the first place.

That's one of my favorite character moments in the film.
Actually I was.

Most of my jokes I get from reality. This was something my best friend brought up. I didn't say it exactly as you did, but I said "Dude... did you not notice the look on his face? He was thinking "I called them petty and Loki pulled me into his game nonetheless."
 
Considering we just had a whole movie of Thor coming to grips with his worthiness I didn't think that scene worked at all.

It was actually quite silly, and how long did he stay out there deciding whether he was worthy or not? 3 hours?
 
Oh, damnit
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Very well-done, Thuderous Monkey.

I can't find the Hawkeye gif in question sadly, but it is a good one.

Considering we just had a whole movie of Thor coming to grips with his worthiness I didn't think that scene worked at all.

It was actually quite silly, and how long did he stay out there deciding whether he was worthy or not? 3 hours?
hahaha. I though that scene was more compelling than the entirely of his solo film, frankly (it may be my least favorite of the Marvel movies). You?
 
Also I have no choice but to buy the DVD.

If only to constantly replay the "I'm always angry." transform scene.
Considering we just had a whole movie of Thor coming to grips with his worthiness I didn't think that scene worked at all.

It was actually quite silly, and how long did he stay out there deciding whether he was worthy or not? 3 hours?
Only to have his "human" failures thrust back into his face leading to him fighting those he swore to protect, letting Loki influence him and falling for his deceits.

When you're an insecure God realizing how easy it is to fuck up big, you might need a few moments to find some sense of confidence. I thought they could have shortened the time a bit, but it's still a pretty well conceived scene.
 
Anyone dising Hawkeye deserves the wrath of fingernails.

Okay... he had quite a few badass scenes. Though a lot of that had to do with how it was shot.

I did not like Cap's suit though. Shoot me. It looked cheap as hell. It really needed to be snug around his head. And probably need a chin cover since Evans doesn't have the most prominent chin.
 
Okay... he had quite a few badass scenes. Though a lot of that had to do with how it was shot.

I did not like Cap's suit though. Shoot me. It looked cheap as hell. It really needed to be snug around his head. And probably need a chin cover since Evans doesn't have the most prominent chin.
Frankly, after rewatching CA: TFA, this is all around accurate. :(

This one is just better from top to bottom:
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Seriously. Just remove the parachute harness/suspender bits but keep everything else mostly the same and you've got a kick-ass Avengers suit for Cap. The TFA suit never looked like it belonged in the 40's anyhow, so it'd mesh pretty well with the modern day.
 
It is really too bad. I almost got over how silly it looked, but not quite. It's sort of a case of faithfulness to the comics overruling any kind of believability, which is ironic considering how many more ridiculous aspects of the film didn't threaten my suspension of disbelief.
 
It is really too bad. I almost got over how silly it looked, but not quite. It's sort of a case of faithfulness to the comics overruling any kind of believability, which is ironic considering how many more ridiculous aspects of the film didn't threaten my suspension of disbelief.

I had no real problem with ScarJo grabbing that speeder at hundreds of miles per hour, but I couldn't shake Caps suit. Funny enough it looked better when he pulled off the helmet.

OH!

I loved that Cap and Stark teamwork with the beam on the shield.


The part that threatened my suspension of disbelief the most was Black Widow hitching a ride on the generic alien vehicle, just stupid.
HAH!

We are very different people my friend.
 
I had no real problem with ScarJo grabbing that speeder at hundreds of miles per hour, but I couldn't shake Caps suit. Funny enough it looked better when he pulled off the helmet.
Nailed it. Looks perfectly decent without the helmet.
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OH!

I loved that Cap and Stark teamwork with the beam on the shield.
My favorite moment in the movie. Pure endorphin rush in the theater. No one seems to have giffed that yet..
 
Just toss the TFA helmet on the current suit.

edit: Sorry the geek in me is still kind of tingling. I never thought I'd see something like this when I was a kid. It's not plot heavy, there's very little room for significant character advancement, but there's all of these small little things that make this movie something special. The masses might just think some of the stuff is cool, but comic book geeks are watching all of these things unfold taken from thousands of separate comic books.

Hulk was most definitely the shining moment for me. Hulk hasn't quite had enough violence or is still a little pissed from earlier and decks Thor. Hulk picks up Loki like a doll slams him against the floor three times and decides he needs two more for good measure. Hulk thinking about punching Tony at the end and instead screams. His ape like movements, his joy at Caps "Smash."

I could deal with an entire Hulk movie by this group of people. They get the man and the beast at a level nobody has yet.
 
Trick bullets are much harder to explain than trick arrows which happen due to customizing the arrow head. Getting shot by an arrow anywhere causes much more damage than a bullet shot unless you are running hollow point or really big bullets which typically in a hand gun decreases the accuracy.

Reason why guns are used more is due to there ease of use and less dependent on the markmans own strength, calmness and accuracy. Why do you think military snipers have to be professionally trained?
 
Trick bullets are much harder to explain than trick arrows which happen due to customizing the arrow head. Getting shot by an arrow anywhere causes much more damage than a bullet shot unless you are running hollow point or really big bullets which typically in a hand gun decreases the accuracy.

Reason why guns are used more is due to there ease of use and less dependent on the markmans own strength, calmness and accuracy. Why do you think military snipers have to be professionally trained?

I'm pretty sure that is not the case, bullets travel at vastly high velocities and cause more damage. Arrows also tend to get stuck in their targets preventing massive bleeding often times, while bullets almost always cause massive bleeding.
 
The old suit and the new suit serve very different purposes, The old suit was very much built for war with the pouches and the bagyness very much like Army uniforms. The new one is more about being sleek and working efficiently.
 
The old suit and the new suit serve very different purposes, The old suit was very much built for war with the puches and the bagyness very much like Army uniforms. The new one is more about being sleek and working efficiently.
Shrug, I accept your premise in terms of functionality but not aesthetics.

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Gotta say that's not all that bad.

edit: GOD DAMNIT MONKEY
 
The helmet is the only problem and that's due to shading/material issues, I think. I'm sure it'll be fixed up by the next movie if not CA2.

And lmfao at those 'shops. No way that looks good. The neck is all exposed, for one. The brown, etc. Nope. They'll get it right, it was damn close, reverting to the old one is unimaginative and lazy.
 
Nope. Arrow shots ignore kevlar, have a greater penetration factor when used in conjecture with modern day technology(hell medieval arrows could penetrate plate armor). An arrow nails you in the head or torso, you are usually dead. Bullet nails you if not high caliber, you have a chance of surviving.

The arrow penetrates much further typically and causes internal bleeding as well as organ failure. Internal bleeding is much worse than external bleeding.
 
Everything is simply better about this suit. The subdued colors, the more believable helmet, the details of the upper chest, the straps etc.
Yeah... it's almost surprising, because that uniform had to be acceptable amongst the standard issue WW2 uniforms; whereas just about anything cool-looking would would be decent for the modern day.
 
My fault. Resized five times but it could definitely use another 15%

edit: wait a minute Sentry, how is it more exposed with the neck strap than it was in the movie?
His neck shouldn't be showing, was my point. I think the helmet is better in the photo-shoot stuff, but it still needs some tweaks to make it look right. Everything else about the current suit is fine imo.

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Okay... he had quite a few badass scenes. Though a lot of that had to do with how it was shot.

I did not like Cap's suit though. Shoot me. It looked cheap as hell. It really needed to be snug around his head. And probably need a chin cover since Evans doesn't have the most prominent chin.

I completely agree. His Avengers costume was a total piece of shit. And having the zipper, the silver zipper, be right at the edge of the red stripe in the center of the suit, breaking the red stripe into one tick part and one tiny thin line, instead of moving it over half an inch to hide it in the white part of the suit, is just fucking amateur hour. That shit is embarrassing like nothing else.
 
Just toss the TFA helmet on the current suit.

THIS. Just this. HALP! Someone please change this in Avengers 2. Cap's helmet on Avengers was all wrong. It wasn't even helmet. It was a stupid overhead masks. I'd think Cap will be better off with a helmet going into these life-threatening situations.

His neck shouldn't be showing, was my point. I think the helmet is better in the photo-shoot stuff, but it still needs some tweaks to make it look right. Everything else about the current suit is fine imo.

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The picture on the left was photoshopped though. In the film, the helmet wasn't metallic at all like in the pic. It was more like a suited mask, which is flimsy and looks like a hood when not being used.
 
Frankly, after rewatching CA: TFA, this is all around accurate. :(

This one is just better from top to bottom:
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That costume is just so damn perfect. Even with the great Ironman and Thor costumes I still think I'd put Cap in first place.

The Avengers one needs a lot of work though. I was hoping they would come up with an excuse for him to use his old costume :(
 
Considering we just had a whole movie of Thor coming to grips with his worthiness I didn't think that scene worked at all.

It was actually quite silly, and how long did he stay out there deciding whether he was worthy or not? 3 hours?

The first time, the scene doesn't work because there are too many scenes between him walking up to the hammer hesitantly, and finally picking it up. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it goes:
- Thor walks up to the hammer
- Captain and Iron man talking for 2-3 minutes
- the "you got a condition" scene
- a good 2-3 minute long scene between Hawkeye and Black Widow
- Iron Man suiting up and the rest getting into the jet thing
- "hey, those Captain America cards were actually in his locker"
- jet flies off, music swells and...
- Thor finally lifts the hammer

Second time around though, the scene really worked for me because I got it. It's not just Thor. All the characters are feeling unworthy, and all of them are 'lifting the hammer' so to speak.
 
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