Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Hulk will heal.
and hes immune to the aids virus as well.
Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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and hes immune to the aids virus as well.
Nice, Hulk smash raw dog!
Freshmaker
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Nah. They were both way too quiet. Out of character.
Auron_Kale
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I laughed
For shops like that one, tumblr's one of the best things ever about the internet.
BenjaminBirdie
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Also, there was no good stuff in Green Lantern.
The Lamonster
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I was planning on renting it...but exactly how bad is it?
I did not enjoy Iron Man 2 or Captain America, btw. Loved IM1 and Thor and of course the Avengers. Where on the scale is GL?
Way, way below. I'm a pretty big GL fan, saw the movie for $6 and STILL felt ripped off.
Good Job Bob
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IM3 doesn't have time for bullshit.
Green Lantern is Ghost Rider level of crap. Avoid.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
You're insulting Ghost Rider. Green Lantern isn't even a movie.
Fuck, you're right. At least I had fun laughing at Ghost Rider. What's left, then. Blade Trinity? Daredevil?
Whatever, Green Lantern is shit. I'm still angry that I paid the price of a matinee ticket to see it.
Vermillion
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So fucking true.
GitarooMan
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They've started showing Green Lantern on TV and I caught some of it again, it's unbelievable how bad that movie is.
I saw it on HBO this past month and have since cancelled my HBO subscription because of it.
Hot Coldman
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Green Lantern and Ghost Rider have one major thing in common- they're fucking boring.
They obviously do, Don Cheadle is returning.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
i disagree.
Mac the KNife
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Just saw the film and really liked it. My only complaint is that half of the New Yorkers didn't return fire on Loki's army. It's the only part I didn't really buy.
Good Job Bob
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They haven't said whether War Machine will be returning, I'm guessing not since this story is so personal.
That's because Capt. America saved everyone's lives! OMG he is such a hero! ~~
I laughed
I LOL'd. Sooo good.
Escape Goat
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You have to wait for the Max Avengers movie.
Can you show a lot of people dying and still keep a PG - 13 rating?
They should have shown one guy shitting his pants and another having a heart attack.
MisterHero
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Parallax in Green Lantern killed thousands of people
the destruction is forgotten afterwards
but people did not forget how horrible the movie was anyways
Joe Shlabotnik
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Green Lantern is a superhero action movie that is always in a rush to get back to someone's apartment.
Makes logical sense but ending a movie with some realization that thousands died wouldn't make it any better. It would feel unfinished and weird. I can't imagine that being handled very well. It would have to lead to other storylines involving responsibility and the question of whether or not the heroes are doing more harm than good. In other words it would get messy because once they acknowledge it, you can't really do much else after that.
Good Job Bob
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Yeah, you can't realistically expect Joss Whedon to be able to handle themes like that.
Spiritreaver
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I thought the really funny part was the news caption at the end stating "Disaster Averted". Really? I mean yeah the big disaster was averted, but good god NYC took a ginormous beating. The destruction alone is disaster worthy.
But yeah, it's a movie, so I don't really care. lol
I don't think many could. Nolan is doing it on a small scale in TDKR but imagine it in Avengers. Once you even mention it then that has to become the whole point of the series because nothing else would really matter. Many movies avoid this in general I feel.
I mean think of all the court cases and paperwork John McClane would be subjected to because of what happened in the first Die Hard. Sometimes it's better to just not mention things like that.
Just get Brian Michael Bendis to write all the Spider-Man dialogue in all future films.
Clayton Bigsby
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Am I really the first to shop this? It seems so obvious.
MisterHero
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Poor Spider-Man
they used his font to sell PS3
they used his font to sell PS3
I know it's not really HIS font
Good Job Bob
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You ruined it.Am I really the first to shop this? It seems so obvious.
MisterHero
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Venom ruined it
Clayton Bigsby
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But I love you.
Sony ruined Venom.
Clayton Bigsby
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Mcfarlane ruined venom.
I wish I understood why people hate Green Lantern so much. It's one of my favourite movies in the genre, and it got me seriously interested in the franchise where other media had failed. I'd previously been exposed to it by the animated films and Justice League cartoons, and while they're very good, they focus more on constructs and less on the imagination and willpower which are the core tenets of the mythology in the comics. When I saw the live action movie, it resonated with me precisely because it didn't downplay these aspects of the story. I subsequently read all the recent comic books from Rebirth to War of the Green Lanterns; went back to watch the movie again a couple of months ago and still loved it. I don't understand the hate. Is it just because it didn't feature enough awesome space action? Sure, I'd have liked more Oa and some cooler power scenes; but I still got an inspirational tale of will vs fear, an excellent portrayal of Hal Jordan, and a set-up for a fantastic Sinestro-based sequel that sadly may never be made. Watching the special features on the Blu-ray made me realize I related to the movie in the same way as the people who made it; and I'd love to know where the disconnect occurs with the rest of the viewing public: why the vast majority of people - especially the GL fans - are so universally disgusted by the film.
lazybones18
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Well, I'm an outsider looking in when it comes to the GL comics. I don't really know much about the character outside of some wiki'ing prior to seeing the movie and watching First Flight after seeing the live-action. The latter was just so badly conceived in plotting, world-building, and character development. yes, there wasn't enough time spent in space or in Oa or with the GL Corps to fully establish this grand universe of mythology and characters. We're just pushed from place to place with poor transitions. It all feels disjointed.
I havent seen GL since it hit blu-ray, so admittedly my memory may be a bit fuzzy in regards to certain particulars Also, Because this is a thread for the Avengers, I'll keep this brief. To me, there are 2 major overarching flaws under which numerous smaller issues exist. Every problem with the movie fits under those two umbrellas. Heck, you could look at this article for a humorous list of reasons why GL sucks. I agree with many of them so much that i could just be paraphrasing at some points, but i want to focus on what I consider the worse things about the film.
First, Hal is an unlikeable asshole throughout the film and when he finally does decide to become heroic and courageous, the transition is non-existent. He starts off as a a cocksure pilot who has no problem flying to incredible heights, taking down numerous drones (using Carol as bait or decoy, a dick move), but out of nowhere he starts freaking out about death and his father's death. It's so contrived. We see him do death-defying acts with no issue, and we're even introduced to him driving dangerously in his car, but he freaks out for no reason. Is this a common occurrence? How would they allow him to fly a jet with that kind of condition?
So he fucks up the mission with the drones or whatever. This results in a bunch of company employees getting fired. They're understandably pissed off. Hal doesn't seem to care. They rough him up a bit, but they leave him without doing much harm...except to his pride. So what does Hal, the man who is chosen to be the first human Green Lantern, do as his first act as a superhero? He beats the shit out of those employees he got fired through his own incompetence.
Okay so, he has the ring and the powers. Instead of performing acts that establish his heroism, he just sulks for much of the film. At this point, there are no inherent dangers to being a Green Lantern that Hal would be afraid of. So, let's assume he's afraid of the unknown and his own inadequacy. He goes to Oa, where he trains for a scene (not even a montage, just one scene), then gives up because he is afraid he can't live up to the responsibility or whatever. He quits, but hey, he gets to keep the ring for some reason. Eventually we get to the party scene, in which Hal chooses not to stop the runaway plane, which threatened the lives of dozens of people as it skids across the ground, until it reaches Carol. What a hero! Looking out for his own interests.
After some more whining about being afraid, he fights Hector but fails to save anybody in the lab. He learns about Paalax by touching Hector. The fight just ends abruptly, and he goes back to his apartment, knowing Hector is still on the loose and potentially dangerous. What does he do? Nothing.
So somewhere around this time, he decides that he's not afraid anymore. We're not shown how he grows as a person. We're just told, really, that he has the power to overcome fear and that he's brave now. Apparently he's the only man on the planet that's capable of this, though judging by his actions thus far, one really begins to wonder about the ring's logic. So he flies off to talk to the Guardians about helping to save Earth. This leads me to the second major flaw.
Two, character motivations and actions are illogical and often just incredibly dumb. So Paralax is a world-gobbling, GL Corps-killing baddie that Sinestro gets word of. This menace emanated from a place where parallax was known to be last. He warns the Guardians of this huge threat, and they don't do anything. They hardly even fret about it. They're not convinced. So after Paralax kills more people, the Guardians are now convinced, and they and Sinestro come up with the plan to forge a yellow ring, even though the previous time one of their own harnessed the yellow power, he succumbed to it and became Paralax.
At this point, Hal shows up requesting aid to save Earth from Paralax. The Guardians refuse for some ridiculously incomprehensible reason. But Hal decides to prove his mettle by fighting Paralax in his own.
So Hal fights Paralax. Lives are lost, presumably, but none of the Green Lantern Corps, of which there are what, over 3000 or something, show up to help as yet another planet is in danger of being consumed.
So Hal manages to beat Paralax by tricking it into falling into the sun. The greatest evil I'm the universe is hoodwinked into being punched into the sun's gravitational pull. This is what everyone was worried about?
Okay, so Hal beats Paralax, but is in danger of being pulled into the sun as well. Thank goodness however that the GL Corps were there the whole time to save him! Hal could've used the help during the actual fight, but whatever, right? Small detail that no one would notice.
Then there's the problem of Sinestro's motivation for using the yellow ring (that was constructed even though Hal was on the job of kicking Paralax's ass). Sinestro is shown to have been a hero throughout the movie. A standup guy who did nothing but try to protect others. He might've been rather coarse to Hal, but he deserved it. So Sinestro puts on the yellow ring. Why? Why was he even allowed to keep the ring knowing that Hal took down Paralax? There isn't any established reason for why his character would resort to the power of fear.
God, this movie sucks.
I was actually impressed they put in the street memorial scene.
I don't think that focusing more on the deaths caused would be that complicated, I just think it wouldn't fit thematically. The whole movie was about cracking wise and smashing baddies. The Avengers had finally assembled, beaten back the alien menace, saved NYC from nuclear annhilation, and closed the portal. Then Stark comes back from the dead. Avengers win. Yay!
Then what? The Avengers survey the destruction caused for five to ten minutes, looking at collapsing and semi-collapsing buildings and coroners zipping up body bags? News reports showing thousands died? Captain America crying because he couldn't save enough people?
Hulk holding out his arms and saying, "They look like big, good, strong hands. Don't they?"
I mean, it's not that this would be difficult, it just wouldn't fit the summer blockbuster feel the movie had throughout. Maybe next time.
Carnage ruined Venom.
WanderingWind
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I firmly believe that Carnage could be a great character. He's just too rooted in the 90s and no writer has really attempted to update him.
You do know that NYC has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country, right?
Although the number of guns per person in America is a stunningly high number, richiek is right regarding NYC's gun laws.
That said, that is an awesome scene waiting to happen. A great number of average Americans are armed, yet this is rarely depicted in disaster movies.
Banana Kid
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Read Zeb Wells's Carnage and Carnage USA. Carnage is cool now.
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