[MS-Conf] Forza Horizon - E3 2012 trailer

NullPointer said:
That is not a good reason. Is it because the Forza AI can't handle dead ends? Even still they could always pay homage to it without recreating it to every last detail.
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That is a likely reason, I can see the AI cars staking up and getting stuck.

But as you said I would imagine there is an area that is similar.
 
NullPointer said:
That is not a good reason. Is it because the Forza AI can't handle dead ends? Even still they could always pay homage to it without recreating it to every last detail.
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Actually, in FM4 set a normal race on a drag strip to end with time and you'll see
a magnificent derp derp pile up of the patented Drivatar© AIs in the wall at the end of the stripe. Hilarious, especially with fast cars ! :lol
 
soundscream said:
http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6380645/forza-horizon-not-a-full-sim-still-big-fun

This is a demo impression from someone who claims to be a big fan of Forza, saying that the driving experience isn't as authentic as Forza 4. He said the Viper should be hard to control, after he turned off all assist but it wasnt.

But I play with all assist off and the Vipers are some of the easiest to control cars, so I dont know if he has used them in 4, but well have to wait and see.

Sorry short no pikes peak. Reason being they dont want any roads with dead ends.
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Where did you hear this? It would be stupidly easy to still have PP and no dead ends. You would only need a simple turn around or some random off road to get you off. Smells like a load of bollocks to me.

soundscream said:
He says he turned them all off
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And this is part of the reason why. Every single outlet has said the assists were locked on and yet this guy had them off? Again, I smell bullshit. He doesn't even know the proper name of the car!
 
I try to buy 1 racing game a year since i'm not a mega racing guy, but it's going to be really hard to choose between Forza's big detailed world and Most Wanted's insane open world.
 
Shortt Sirket said:
Where did you hear this? It would be stupidly easy to still have PP and no dead ends. You would only need a simple turn around or some random off road to get you off. Smells like a load of bollocks to me.



And this is part of the reason why. Every single outlet has said the assists were locked on and yet this guy had them off? Again, I smell bullshit. He doesn't even know the proper name of the car!
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He said in the video he asked about pikes peak.
 
soundscream said:
He said in the video he asked about pikes peak.
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I will need more confirmation because he sounds like he has no idea what he is talking about for half that video. And I am okay with a fantasy version of Pikes Peak, especially if it goes back to the all dirt awesomeness of the old PP.

I know I sound grumpy, but I am trying to keep the hope alive!!!
 
Shortt Sirket said:
I will need more confirmation because he sounds like he has no idea what he is talking about for half that video. And I am okay with a fantasy version of Pikes Peak, especially if it goes back to the all dirt awesomeness of the old PP.

I know I sound grumpy, but I am trying to keep the hope alive!!!
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Once he said Vipers should be hard to control with the assist off my Spidey sense went off. The Viper is an extremely drivable car with all the assist off in 4. So I dont know how many Vipers he has driven in the Forza series, but it would imply he hasnt driven many, but having not played the demo I cant comment on his assessment. I hope they give us a crack at it earlier then they did with F4 demo.
 
G Rom said:
Actually, in FM4 set a normal race on a drag strip to end with time and you'll see
a magnificent derp derp pile up of the patented Drivatar© AIs in the wall at the end of the stripe. Hilarious, especially with fast cars ! :lol
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Haha.

And just now it sunk in - this is using Forza's AI? Well. Hopefully that works out better in this game somehow. I wouldn't use it as a selling point though.
 
NullPointer said:
Haha.

And just now it sunk in - this is using Forza's AI? Well. Hopefully that works out better in this game somehow. I wouldn't use it as a selling point though.
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Haven't you heard ?

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Source. (just below the second screenshot)
 
I really like the Forza games, but their PR was always... over the top.
Better hit with facts this time - wish PGG had more to say here.
 
That race video kinda deflated me a lot from this game.. Forza4 physics my ass... getting points for wrecking tables and traffic signs? wat?...
 
sneaky77 said:
That race video kinda deflated me a lot from this game.. Forza4 physics my ass... getting points for wrecking tables and traffic signs? wat?...
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Have you not watched any of the videos posted before?

And why are you saying the physics are crap now?

Your post is mind bottling.
 
as if wrecking stuff has to do with the physics simulation of the car driving on a surface
 
Looking forward to this.

Looks really good, a nice change of pace from the Forza Motorsport games.
 
Wait... are people still thinking this ISN'T an arcade racer?
Doesn't getting points for smashing picnic tables kinda give it away?
FM: sim
FH: arcade
 
The footage looks fine to me - I'm not expecting anything other than fun gameplay and solid graphics.
 
Mascot said:
Wait... are people still thinking this ISN'T an arcade racer?
Doesn't getting points for smashing picnic tables kinda give it away?
FM: sim
FH: arcade
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Well, the developers aren't calling it an arcade racer, so why should we believe that it is? And your argument doesn't make any sense. You get points for knocking over bowling pins and scoring soccer goals in FM4, and it's still a sim racer.
 
I was just thinking. I know they said that they chose cars according to their relevance in a music event or whatever, but seriously, who's to say what's relevant or not?
I mean, one man's dream car is another man's nightmare right?

Could they have just used most cars from FM4 IF they wanted to?

Car shows, events, social gatherings etc include so many different cars from the quirky to the mainstream. It seems that Horizon isn't going to include 'lower end' cars going by what Ralph Fulton has said..
 
saladine1 said:
I was just thinking. I know they said that they chose cars according to their relevance in a music event or whatever, but seriously, who's to say what's relevant or not?
I mean, one man's dream car is another man's nightmare right?

Could they have just used most cars from FM4 IF they wanted to?

Car shows, events, social gatherings etc include so many different cars from the quirky to the mainstream. It seems that Horizon isn't going to include 'lower end' cars going by what Ralph Fulton has said..
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Honestly wont miss the lower end cars in this situation.
 
Yes, Ferrari has been confirmed. At least the California is in.


Saladine, I don't think we'll necessarily see the end of lower end cars. We're almost sure that the original Mini will be in the game, it's not exactly fast by today's standard. The way I see it, I think we'll get "mainstream" iconic cars (M3 E30, Quattro, original Mini, etc...), "mainstream" supercars (Viper, hopefully remodeled Enzo Ferrari, Ford GT, etc...), "mainstream" imports (RX7, R34, R35, etc...), probably some ridiculous or out of the ordinary cars (Aston Martin Cygnet, Fisker Karma, etc...) and most likely the rally cars or cars that can be converted to rally cars seen in FM4 (Quattro S1, Monster SX4, "normal" SX4, Celica ST185, etc...).
Basically, I don't see shitboxes like the Pinto making the cut for example, all the race cars will be gone and the car list should be the best of best.

I mean, they have to give us the option in FH to take that Safari rally ST185 out on the dirt :
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eso76 said:
wait, wtf is that ?
you mean you can upgrade the celica to look like that in fm4 ????
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Yes, DLC cars have been getting more and more upgrade options (including OEM ones) in FM4.

I actually posted a list in the FM4 OT, here are some example :

S = Skirt
FB = Front Bumper
RB = Rear Bumper
H = Hood
RW = Rear Wing

2011 Audi RS3 Sportback : Audi A3 S/FB, Caractere S/FB/RB, Oettinger S/FB/RB
2012 Dodge Charger SRT8 : "normal" Charger S/FB/RB/H, Police FB with bull-bars
2011 Volkswagen Scirocco R : ABT S/FB/RB/RW, Oettinger FB, Volkswagen racing S/FB/RB/H/RW
2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor : Off-road Ford FB with mounted headlights, same Ford FB with additional lights on the roof, open trunk RB, off-road RB with two spare wheel on display
2011 Audi RS5 : Audi A5 FB/RB
1992 Alfa Romeo 155 Q4 : Mattig RW, Alfa Romeo DTM S/FB/RB/RW, Alfa Romeo GTA S/FB/RB/RW
1986 Audi #2 Audi Sport quattro S1 : Audi Pikes Peak FB/RW, Audi mounted headlights
1972 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.3 : Mercedes-Benz racing FB with mounted headlights, same FB with hidden mounted headlights, Mercedes-Benz racing RB
2012 Chrysler 300 SRT8 : "normal" 300 S/FB/RB
2011 Ford Transit SSV : "normal" Transit S/FB/RB
2012 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon : Jeep S/FB(with bull-bars and cable)/RB(with protection on taillights)/H(x2)
2012 Smart ForTwo : Brabus FB/RB, Königseder FB/RB
1973 911 Carrera RS 2.7 Touring : Porsche FB(x2)/RB(x2)/H/RW(x2 : 911E and racing), Forza FB has tape on the headlights
1995 911 GT2 (993) : Porsche FB/RW (x3 : Turbo, Carrera S and 911 GT)
1982 911 Turbo 3.3 (930) : Porsche S/FB(x2)/RB(x2)/RW(x2 : 911SC and Carrera RS 3.8)

Complete list here.
 
G Rom said:
Yes, DLC cars have been getting more and more upgrade options (including OEM ones) in FM4.

I actually posted a list in the FM4 OT, here are some example :
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list is lacking pics !!!
j/k, great job there, i guess that'll teach me.
I've been mostly quick racing in the past few months.
Looks like that's going to change soon
 
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