Final Fantasy real time tech demo - Luminous Studio [Up3: Survey/Screens/Video]
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Cjdamon042
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Thank god. Bloom is all right in small quantities but we never got small quantities of the thing. Way overused and too strong most of the time.
Now particles however, as long as they look good, can make a scene look so much more alive and with depth. Though I guess there's always the risk that they'll just shove particles in our faces constantly. We'll see I guess.
This tech demo looks great and the best part is probably the fact it looks believable as it has some flaws, but not horrible flaws. Just realistic flaws.
Unknown One
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I would be, but would they? The Final Fantasy offerings are getting linear and FFXIII had the excuse of no town because HD towns are too hard. With this high quality graphics it will be even harder and will take more work.
I don't see it happening at all.
Kazuma Kiryu
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man, next-gen is gonna be awesome 
HamPster PamPster
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I'm surprised by the amount of interest this has generated. Personally, I just find it hard to get excited about what we already know... next generation will be pretty
SE has never let me down in the visuals department, so I'm sure the cutscenes in FFXV will be great (pre-rendered or real time) but I'm more curious if they can build a great game with these tools
I guess at the end of the day it boils down to two things, people are ready for next gen and people are ready for SE to reach past heights
SE has never let me down in the visuals department, so I'm sure the cutscenes in FFXV will be great (pre-rendered or real time) but I'm more curious if they can build a great game with these tools
I guess at the end of the day it boils down to two things, people are ready for next gen and people are ready for SE to reach past heights
What an unflattering comparison.
Well, "high-end off-the-shelf" hardware doesn't really leave a lot of room for interpretation. I'd guess an i7 and a 680 (or maybe 2).
I very much agree with them releasing it on PC. I wrote as much in the survey in case anyone reads it
I completely agree. CLoth/hair physics fuck yeah!Well just now (even in this generation) we start seeing more and more games having cloth physics, since i'm a sucker for cloth physics, i can't wait for complete cloth simulation, next gen.
Even stuff like big Ninja pants would look incredible with it.
Also, with the right tools this is one of the many things that can actually decrease asset creation costs, since pre-baking those (either manually or tool-assisted) is quite some effort.
BlazingDarkness
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Don't know if posted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9xhFpuIMX4
Here is the actual presentation, you can see them manipulating it in real time, very impressive
He also discusses various ways in which it's efficient compared to their previous engine, and much faster rendering and whatnot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9xhFpuIMX4
Here is the actual presentation, you can see them manipulating it in real time, very impressive
He also discusses various ways in which it's efficient compared to their previous engine, and much faster rendering and whatnot
paperheart
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Looks really cool.
MickeyKnox
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Dude has skin that sits on muscle that sits on bone, best real time facial animation to date.
My half awake brain couldn't fully comprehend the overwhelming amount of activity in the trailer with the first run. Now that I have seen it a few more times, I have to say that I am very impressed.
I love female protagonists who look like they can take care of themselves. Plus, the character design is far from the usual androgynous ideology infused as a FF tradition.
Now, in that survey I did mention that this new found graphical fidelity shouldn't push FF to cut down on creativity and push FF further into the realm of linearity (ref: FFXIII). Let's see what happens with this grittier rendition of a FF.
Also, I love the name Agni. I hope she can live up to her fiery name.
I love female protagonists who look like they can take care of themselves. Plus, the character design is far from the usual androgynous ideology infused as a FF tradition.
Now, in that survey I did mention that this new found graphical fidelity shouldn't push FF to cut down on creativity and push FF further into the realm of linearity (ref: FFXIII). Let's see what happens with this grittier rendition of a FF.
Also, I love the name Agni. I hope she can live up to her fiery name.
So, are they licensing this tech or what? If this really just an advertisement for employee openings, showing it behind close doors seems like a poor way to get the word out.
Still, SE over-hauling their internal development process sounds promising. I don't think we'll see another "Versus XIII" fiasco from them.
Still, SE over-hauling their internal development process sounds promising. I don't think we'll see another "Versus XIII" fiasco from them.
Deus Ex Machina
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Is this coming to PC?
Paracelsus
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It'll make a great Wrpg, get Eidos to work on it.
Oh shit again
It's still has a somewhat exotic Japanese feel to it so I guess it's not for everyone, but that guy didn't even babble that much nonsense and the girl didn't start to talk about how important friendship is etc.
That's great improvement to me.
If you go through their careers page you'll also see they're searching for procedural programmers for their tools/R&D so it actually brings back not just towns but whole cities into the scope of what we'll potentially see.
Metalmurphy
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Damn. So impressive.
It's like Diablo 2 CG, now in real time. Even better in some ways.
*edit* Wait, they got Maya connected to their game engine to see the changes to the game in real time?
Its ridiculous...ridiculous. I said goddamn.
Wow, just wow.
I hope that those will be the actual graphics of the Xbox 720; PS4
TheJollyCorner
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I hate you Square-Enix.
So fucking amazing. Please let this be FFXV. Love the overall aesthetic.
So fucking amazing. Please let this be FFXV. Love the overall aesthetic.
KingItachi
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It looks good, I have not faith in Squeenix.
wow...still having hard time believing its real time until watching this. I had a little doubt in my mind that SE just made that with CG and bullshit as target real-time for next-gen or something.
Wolves Evolve
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Real-time changes from Maya?
Are you fucking kidding?
That is more immense than the demo itself.
Are you fucking kidding?
That is more immense than the demo itself.
Filled out the survey, said that I liked everything except for the middle-easten setting and the AK-47 wielding terrorists. Also humbly requested they release future Final Fantasy titles on the PC, but from reading the info on luminous, it seems they're going in that direction anyway.
I'd kill for a post-apocalyptic setting final fantasy game
Yeah
I filled it out assuming they wanted to turn into a game at some point. Really hope they think their "world" over. I probably should have put in more of a good word about the CG though. Although I'm not the biggest fan of attempted photorealism in games, pushing the tech should be beneficial for everyone.
FlutterPuffs
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I didn't mind that. Fantasy has been too much about european knights that it's nice to have a new theme to it.
Also note that I'm muslim. As much as I hate the discrimination we are getting post-911, just trying to be too politically correct destroys the fun out of most things.
flabberghastly
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Wow. After watching not just the tech demo, but also the video showing them manipulating the scene to prove that it is all real-time, I'm so ready for the next generation. Watch_Dogs and Star Wars 1313 were impressive, but this was so much more magnificent.
I also can't shake off the feeling that we'll see games much better than this throughout next generation. Just watch the Final Fantasy VII PS3 demo again todaygames on the 360 and PS3 have surpassed what was so amazing at the time.
I also can't shake off the feeling that we'll see games much better than this throughout next generation. Just watch the Final Fantasy VII PS3 demo again todaygames on the 360 and PS3 have surpassed what was so amazing at the time.
I would love this tech demo to be final fantasy 15, but after the final fantasy 7 tech demo they showed on ps3, I doubt that will happen. The art direction, setting, character model, and field map graphic all exceeds anything done in final fantasy history, and even though, I never liked Iwata as a designer, he has surpassed my expectation in this presentation. Maybe it was because Nomura was overseeing his work. Either way, I can not wait to see the first game to use this engine. I know Final Fantasy versus 13 is using only the lighting system of this luminous engine(which will still be amazing), but I can not wait to see the first final fantasy game to incorporate all aspect of this engine. I can only imagine what Final fantasy 15 will look like. I just hope, the tone will be somewhat similar.
RPGCrazied
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Tech demos do nothing for me, cause 9 times out of ten you never see the finished product. That could be Final Fantasy 15, though I hope she isn't the main character. We already have a female lead with Lightning.
Looks great though.
Looks great though.
infinityBCRT
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Sony should have really had this at the end of their E3 press conference. It would have blown away everyone and got them talking about Sony again.
Wrote in the survey saying that this should be a real game with traditional, turn-based/menu-based combat. I really really hope if this ever becomes a real game, they don't westernize the gameplay. That said, everything else looked great, nice to see S-E isn't completely asleep at the wheel.
At this rate, with these platforms looming to their end and next-gen coming, the no-show that's Versus may as well be moved to a next generation platform using this engine.
We still won't see the game on store shelves even if they do that.
Cjdamon042
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We're truly in for a treat next generation if this is what we'll be getting near the start. Honestly can't wait. Let's just hope the gameplay keeps up.
Just watched it again and I'm really in love with it. Sure I could do without the guns but other than that it's great. I keep hoping at the end that "Final Fantasy XV" will fade in instead of Square Enix, but it doesn't
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Why would they do that? If this was running real time on PS4, sure, then it would have made sense.
infinityBCRT
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If developers can do good image filtering, 720p is enough. The FXAA guy from nVidia had a good blog post about how movies don't have pixel depth detail (which I think was discussed on GAF). If next-gen games are rendered at 720p and upscaled well to 1080p it should be more than good enough to produce a pleasing image. Furthermore, maybe games will have to be locked at 30FPS to keep image quality this high. If so, hopefully they do what Criterion did with Hot Pursuit and poll the controller at 60Hz to keep the games responsive.
My assumption is that they are making this tech demo to eventually be put on the PS4. It wouldn't have been too different from when Kojima was first showing off MGS4 on what was definitely not PS3 hardware.