[MS-Conf] Forza Horizon - E3 2012 trailer

Xanadu said:
prostreet is the game i was referring to
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I didn't get what you meant when you were comparing it to NFS but now I do now since you mentioned NFS: Prostreet.

Pretty sure NFS: Prostreet didn't do well. The game wasn't that popular. I haven't played it myself.
 
Xanadu said:
i was pointing it out as no one with a brain enjoyed pro street, and if i'm on your ignore list how can you see my posts?
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I must be brainless because I enjoyed Pro Street! (sounds were crazy)

Handling was absolute rubbish but it had one of the most authentic drag racing modes i've seen in a video game. It really reminded me of what I do in real life...
And yes, the whole festival thing, the atmosphere and culture in Forza Horizon does sound like a bit like Pro Street.
 
saladine1 said:
I must be brainless because I enjoyed Pro Street! (sounds were crazy)

Handling was absolute rubbish but it had one of the most authentic drag racing modes i've seen in a video game. It really reminded me of what I do in real life...
And yes, the whole festival thing, the atmosphere and culture in Forza Horizon does sound like a bit like Pro Street.
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THIS! I still own the game and I hated most of it, but the drag racing aspect was really awesome. Burnouts were done really well and then the sound and fury of launching an 800HP Supra was awesome!

It is almost too bad the handling and graphics were so terrible because the game wasn't really that bad. And I honestly didn't mind the festival atmosphere. I guess if you have never been to a Formula D event, Pikes Peak or the Silver State Classic then you wouldn't "get" it. I mean, jesus, does anyone remember HIN? That stuff was 100x crazier than anything that will be in Horizon and it was one of the biggest car "events" there for a while. God, going to HIN was so much fun back in the day.

I don't really understand all the hate for that aspect. It is not what I would necessarily pick but I am having a hard time understanding how it is a bad experience. Okay, if you can't turn off the terrible announcer and music, then I will be incredibly upset. But I would think the actual racing/driving/world aspect would be enough to show how great this game is.

Again, not meaning to be rude, but I think you can really tell the "car" guys here. Those of us who have been to drifting events, or race events, or major car shows and such understand this and the actual driving trumps all the pointless window dressing. But if you aren't into cars or don't go to events, then I guess I can understand the hate.
 
Jamesways said:
I know exactly what you mean. It's the little things that devs didn't have to add that really make a difference in immersion for me.

Going back and playing PGR3 and 4, I love the dirt smudges and dust on the windshield and seeing them through the different lighting.

In Shift, you can see the reflection of the dash on the inside of the windshield of each car, and the hands and wrists move and change grip as you brake like the driver is tensing up.

In Race Pro, you can see the grain of the adhesive and a few air bubbles in the semi-clear window banners.

I love that. Racing games need more details like that.
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Yes exactly this.I love reflections on windshield during night racing in PGR3.
Hands animations in Shift series are also great.I would love to see same animations in Forza because in Forza they are a little lifeless.
I agree,games need more details like this!
Next gen should be glorious.
 
shinnn said:
Dan interview on G4 X-Play

http://www.g4tv.com/videos/59042/forza-horizon-e3-gameplay-demo/

He said you can import vinyl groups from previous Forza's.
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He said you can import vinyl groups from previous Forza's.
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you can import vinyl groups from previous Forza's.
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import vinyl groups from previous Forza's.
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Oh god. Oh god oh god oh god.

A sandbox racer with the visual customization of Forza.

I think I may cum now.
 
Wow I take back every bad word/thought or otherwise for this game.

Still hate that driving over posts gives you points. Doesn't make sense. Driving with style does hopefully we are seeing the PGR system employed here.

Everything else is awesome news. Apart from 30fps which I can completely understand when I see that they aren't BSing about the 20km draw distance...I can't think of any glaring issues or flaws.

Gravel and dirt racing looks fantastic. Roads were quite varied you had some good pavement and then you had some really bumpy regions that snaked through a canyon looked like a hillclimb.

The game is going to bring a lot of important tech to the Forza series the day/night stuff is obvious but the exhaustive list of track surfaces and the massive draw distances that will be useful for a Forza 5 running on more powerful hardware.

Not gonna follow the game religiously from here on out but I think I'll pick this up.
 
Shortt Sirket said:
THIS! I still own the game and I hated most of it, but the drag racing aspect was really awesome. Burnouts were done really well and then the sound and fury of launching an 800HP Supra was awesome!

It is almost too bad the handling and graphics were so terrible because the game wasn't really that bad. And I honestly didn't mind the festival atmosphere. I guess if you have never been to a Formula D event, Pikes Peak or the Silver State Classic then you wouldn't "get" it. I mean, jesus, does anyone remember HIN? That stuff was 100x crazier than anything that will be in Horizon and it was one of the biggest car "events" there for a while. God, going to HIN was so much fun back in the day.

I don't really understand all the hate for that aspect. It is not what I would necessarily pick but I am having a hard time understanding how it is a bad experience. Okay, if you can't turn off the terrible announcer and music, then I will be incredibly upset. But I would think the actual racing/driving/world aspect would be enough to show how great this game is.

Again, not meaning to be rude, but I think you can really tell the "car" guys here. Those of us who have been to drifting events, or race events, or major car shows and such understand this and the actual driving trumps all the pointless window dressing. But if you aren't into cars or don't go to events, then I guess I can understand the hate.
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Yep. I understand that the festive nature of various car shows and racing events isn't to everyone's liking, but by God, i'd rather some vivacity and activity rather than absolute deadness and dreariness!

This isn't related only to car shows or drag and drift events either. Any serious circuit racing fan would see how things have changed over the years with regards to racing day atmosphere and entertainment. What used to be mundane and very basic non racing entertainment for the crowds, is now filled with girls,events,prizes,mini car shows..etc. Then you have the banners, the baloons, sponsor clothing, music and all sorts of festivities going on outside of the racing itself.
We've always wanted a more lively world in FM, something that resembles what we experience ourselves when we go to any car related event. Here's a chance to see that in action..
 
I'll most likely pre-order this when I get my paycheck this month :I , I wonder if there's going to be a worthwhile limited/vip edition for this.

also, seeing Xanadu get banned made my day, even if it wasn't for trolling Forza or other car game threads.
 
Arucardo said:
I'll most likely pre-order this when I get my paycheck this month :I , I wonder if there's going to be a worthwhile limited/vip edition for this.

also, seeing Xanadu get banned made my day, even if it wasn't for trolling Forza or other car game threads.
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What did him in?
 
Arucardo said:
I'll most likely pre-order this when I get my paycheck this month :I , I wonder if there's going to be a worthwhile limited/vip edition for this.

also, seeing Xanadu get banned made my day, even if it wasn't for trolling Forza or other car game threads.
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That is always the thing that bugs me.. Pre order Borderlands 2... 2 months later they announce the GOOD version. Happens all the time so I am going to wait till a couple months before launch to pre order.
 
Good news about Liveries being able to be imported over, saves people a lot of effort.

Good news about Xanadu also, hopefully his second ban will stick. In his words 'lmao lol baldy etc'
 
-MikePriester- said:
Good news about Liveries being able to be imported over, saves people a lot of effort.

Good news about Xanadu also, hopefully his second ban will stick.
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He will make another account like he did before. He's like herpes, never truly gone.

Anyway the liveries being importable is great news. I have a Sons of Anarchy grim reaper that is a constant flow of cash for me.
 
Car list updated (bold)

Abarth

Alfa Romeo
2007 8C Competizione

Aston Martin
2012 Virage

Audi
1983 Sport quattro

Bentley
2012 Continental GT

BMW
1973 2002 turbo
1991 M3 E30
2008 M3 E92
2012 M5 F10

Bugatti
1992 EB110 SS

Cadillac
2011 CTS-V Coupe

Chevrolet
2012 Corvette Grand Sport Convertible (C6)

Dodge
1969 Charger R/T-SE

Ferrari
1957 250 Testa Rossa
2009 California
1995 F50

Ford
2005 Ford GT

Gumpert
2012 apollo sport

Honda
2005 NSX-R GT

Lamborghini
1988 Countach LP5000 QV
2010 Murciélago LP670-SV

Lancia
1974 Stratos HF Stradale

Lexus
2010 LFA

Lotus
2009 2-Eleven
2006 Exige Cup 240

Mazda
2010 MX-5 Superlight
1997 RX-7

Maserati
2010 GranTurismo S

McLaren
1997 F1 GT

Mercedes-Benz
2009 SL 65 AMG Black Series

Mitsubishi
2008 Lancer Evolution X GSR

Mosler
2010 MT900S

Nissan
2010 370Z (Z34)
2002 Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R34)

Renault
1980 5 Turbo
2010 Mégane Renault Sport 250
2009 Twingo Renault Sport 133 Cup

Saleen
2004 S7

SRT
2013 Viper GTS

Toyota
1998 Supra RZ
 
I am pretty happy with that car list so far. I am really wanting more "in depth" information. Especially about the customization, the road system, the real/fantasy Pikes Peak, the Pinks thing, and especially the Barn Finds.

I am just an impatient man!
 
The more I see, the more excited I get. I'll spend most of the time just cruising around in cockpit view. :D

Going to pre-order this one, NO DOUBT!
 
I wonder whether this is a single or multiple disc game and how would they even go about having this on more than one disc.

I hope it has most cars from F4 and a bunch of the dlc cars too.
 
I think they will have to make it happen on one disc. And since they already said they are going to cut down the car list, they will have to cut it down enough to fit in one disc.
 
Shortt Sirket said:
I am pretty happy with that car list so far. I am really wanting more "in depth" information. Especially about the customization, the road system, the real/fantasy Pikes Peak, the Pinks thing, and especially the Barn Finds.

I am just an impatient man!
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Have they mentioned anything about this? Setting a driving game in Colorado and somehow not including Pikes Peak would be... strange.

Barn finds intrigue me. What a great way to unlock oldies and classics.
 
I'm liking what I've seen of FH so far, but nowhere near to the extent of preordering and booking a day off work. It's not like FM4 levels of anticipation for me, and probably never will be (Jesus - the wait between seeing that 'leaked' FM4 trailer and the release day was absolute torture). I'm probably more interested in seeing how the race event atmosphere is handled, and how that might translate over to FM5 (along with night, headlights, DRLs, gravel, dirt etc etc). If the rumours about the 720 having approx 6x the grunt of the 360 are true then there really won't be any excuses for all the 'missing' features not to be present and correct in FM5, especially if half of them are being road tested in FH.
 
Shortt Sirket said:
I think they will have to make it happen on one disc. And since they already said they are going to cut down the car list, they will have to cut it down enough to fit in one disc.
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I'd guess that the every day cars (civics, corollas, fiestas, etc) and race cars are the first to get cut.
 
Arucardo said:
I'd guess that the every day cars (civics, corollas, fiestas, etc) and race cars are the first to get cut.
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They've specifically said that race cars wouldn't be included, and that Forza's D- and F-classes wouldn't be around either. I might not be remembering the specifics of the latter point exactly, but no commuter cars is probably a sure thing.
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
They've specifically said that race cars wouldn't be included, and that Forza's D- and F-classes wouldn't be around either. I might not be remembering the specifics of the latter point exactly, but no commuter cars is probably a sure thing.
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Oh ok, haven't read or watched any interviews for this yet.

I hope they have at least a handful of old muscle cars, though the odds of not having them is pretty slim, they're perfect for an open world game like this.
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
They've specifically said that race cars wouldn't be included, and that Forza's D- and F-classes wouldn't be around either. I might not be remembering the specifics of the latter point exactly, but no commuter cars is probably a sure thing.
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Doesn't make sense to specifically cut the F and D class. From the videos, it seems that the PI has been altered, but I doubt to the point of getting all those muscle cars out of the D class. We've already seen the E class (2002 Turbo) as well.

BTW, I didn't expect cars like the Twingo to make it in this game, not exactly the type of car I expect someone to show off at a festival. O_o
 
G Rom said:
Doesn't make sense to specifically cut the F and D class. From the videos, it seems that the PI has been altered, but I doubt to the point of getting all those muscle cars out of the D class. We've already seen the E class (2002 Turbo) as well.

BTW, I didn't expect cars like the Twingo to make it in this game, not exactly the type of car I expect someone to show off at a festival. O_o
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Slight mistake on my part; I meant E and F. Even after all this time on the planet, ABCs still elude me. D'oh! D is still in, I'm assuming.

From the Eurogamer preview:

But the Forza family resemblance is plain to see in plenty of other ways, such as the use of the same car classes and performance index (no E- or F-class slowpokes, mind)
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Edit: Just saw your edit; maybe the cutoff point for D-class is altered so the 2002 is now there?
 
Arucardo said:
Oh ok, haven't read or watched any interviews for this yet.

I hope they have at least a handful of old muscle cars, though the odds of not having them is pretty slim, they're perfect for an open world game like this.
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Muscle cars are definitely in, from that Eurogamer preview
The festival context also adds a sense of occasion to the game's racing: one event, "Mustang v. Mustang", pits your 1970s muscle car against the '40s fighter plane in a Top Gear-style challenge coloured by flares, laser lights and cheering spectators.
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Spaceman Spiff said:
Slight mistake on my part; I meant E and F. Even after all this time on the planet, ABCs still elude me. D'oh! D is still in, I'm assuming.

From the Eurogamer preview:





Edit: Just saw your edit; maybe the cutoff point for D-class is altered so the 2002 is now there?
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I'm guessing that Eurogamer is guessing ;) I don't believe that someone said flat out that E and F is out of the game.
 
Well I think Eurogamer got it wrong. As I said, we've already seen an E class car already, the 2002 Turbo. It was in one of the demo, when they were scrolling through the BMWs.
The F class being wiped out would make more sense.
Although, looking at the F class cars, I'd like to see some exceptions made. I'd love to cruise in things like the Alfa Spider or the Austin-Healey. Taking the 99 Turbo on those dirty roads could be fun as well.
 
G Rom said:
Well I think Eurogamer got it wrong. As I said, we've already seen an E class car already, the 2002 Turbo. It was in one of the demo, when they were scrolling through the BMWs.
The F class being wiped out would make more sense.
Although, looking at the F class cars, I'd like to see some exceptions made. I'd love to cruise in things like the Alfa Spider or the Austin-Healey. Taking the 99 Turbo on those dirty roads could be fun as well.
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Gotcha, looks like an E-257 on BADNED's car list.

Looks like Eurogamer goofed a bit. Now I'm not so confused.
 
saladine1 said:
I still don't know why smashing into fences would make you popular lol..
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I wonder the same.

I also wonder why I haven't seen footage yet where the car manages to stay on the road. Lots of sloppy sliding, not enough high speed drifts.

Would have been nice to showcase some of the environmental variety to Colorado besides just the day/night cycle. That and shown more of how we interact with the Festival itself, something we've been given only the most brief flashes of.
 
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