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[Portugeezer]

Promethean Vision needs a serious nerf.

I would like it, but it's not really necessary, the other player should be able to see him on the motion sensor. Maybe it's just me but I am always hyper aware of what's going on around me.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

I can see the H4 MLG playlist becoming the best one yet.

A carbine only playlist for me please.

God damn is that thing beastly.

 

[Overdoziz]

There are more people in Arena than in Super Slayer right now.
That's how terrible the playlist is.

 

[Portugeezer]

Don't forget to vote for HALO 4.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477514

A carbine only playlist for me please.

God damn is that thing beastly.

Love the look of it, and it does seem beastly. My weapon of choice no doubt.

 

[Tashi]

I would like it, but it's not really necessary, the other player should be able to see him on the motion sensor. Maybe it's just me but I am always hyper aware of what's going on around me.

What about gametypes without radar?

Radar is so whack in Halo.

 

[Fuchsdh]

And it only took eight months!

Glad they kept it in Invasion, though, otherwise on the new maps it would be even more of a phase 3 turkey shoot

 

[Rand0m TAG]

What about gametypes without radar?

Radar is so whack in Halo.

i dont mind radar too much. i detest the reach radar though.

 

[Gabotron ES]

A carbine only playlist for me please.

God damn is that thing beastly.

And it looks so damm sexy, the scoping effect is sooo beautiful man.

The DMR also sounds like a million nukes exploding on your face. Sotaro did an awesome job

 

[Portugeezer]

What about gametypes without radar?

Radar is so whack in Halo.

Then it would be OP.

I am with you, I dislike the radar, but it's part of Halo and I put up with it.

 

[Der Flatulator]

Promethean vision is definitely going to be a game breaker if it ships in it's current iteration. It is super powerful and allows a relatively skilled player to know the position, direction of movement, and intent of every enemy on the map. Some things that could be done to nerf it are:

1. Make the field dissipate as it pulses outwards, such that after a point it will not show enemies. [i.e. decrease it's range]
2. Make it have a minimum usage, 1-2 seconds, so you cannot simply flicker it to get an instantaneous position of the people behind a wall.
3. Make the transition into PV more blurry/unstable
4. Increase the cooldown
5. Decrease the time it lasts
6. Decrease player movement whilst using it.
7. If a player is hit with PV, give them an audio or HUD queue (perhaps a special arrow on the motion tracker)

Obviously don't apply all of these, but I would say at least 1-2 should be used.

 

[User 73706]

Ooh, just realized: overshield is bound to be spawnable as a physical powerup, so does that mean we're going to be able to spawn Double Damage, Speed Boost, etc. powerups on the map as well?

 

[FyreWulff]

Ooh, just realized: overshield is bound to be spawnable as a physical powerup, so does that mean we're going to be able to spawn Double Damage, Speed Boost, etc. powerups on the map as well?

If there was something that was a missed opportunity in Reach, it was having more than one custom powerup so people could rig their own OS/Camo powerups instead of all-or-nothing with the single powerup. But since they considered powerups as no longer being part of the game's intended sandbox, that probably fell to the wayside.

(Personally, I'd like to know why the OS/Camo do that thing where they teleport downwards when you place them on certain maps in certain spots)

 

[TheOddOne]

Ooh, just realized: overshield is bound to be spawnable as a physical powerup, so does that mean we're going to be able to spawn Double Damage, Speed Boost, etc. powerups on the map as well?

I thought it was locked to the Ordnance drop?

 

[ZalinKrow]

When I had first heard about Promethean Vision, I thought it was going to work pretty differently. I thought it was going to act like a sonar almost, and instead of giving you live feedback of where they are moving, it would just return a static image of where they were at the time the wave or signal passed over them.

I figured that way you could get a good idea as to where people are, but still have a good chance of being surprised by them. In it's current state it does make me feel like the user can avoid taking a lot of risks (like moving out of cover with low shields) because they know for sure when it's safe when using it.

 

[MrBig]

2400 posts how do you do it halogaf

Multiplayer looks a little better than I thought; promethean vision though, how is that supposed to be balanced? You get better visual contrast than without the color grading, it should obstruct your vision if anything

 

[HollovVpo1nt]

For some reason, I think Bruce Faulconer would fit in perfectly for the music of the Reclaimer Trilogy.

 

[The Librarian]

Stay tuned.

*impressions*

Thank you!

@Ghaleon: re: sound design. You don't think it's good? I think it's mostly great! There are some things here and there that I'm unsure of, but overall I definitely like the metallic click to everything. One of those things is the announcer's voice – he seems to have some sort of weird filter on him. One thing I'm hoping is in the game: distant gun noises. I loved that in Halo 3.

 

[kylej]

-One of the maps. One looks like just another cramped metal dungeon, which too many of the human-themed maps are. Reach had too many, Halo 3 had too many (thanks, Foundry!) and one in Halo 4 is too many. Please pick a different art style!

It's the laziest of the lazy. Halo is not limited to earth. Halo is not limited to human architecture. Hell, Halo 4's multiplayer environments take place in a simulation. Why oh why are there maps where you have to jump around crates and barrels or walk up ramps of metal pipes to get around? Why am I staring at incongruous metal walls? It is the most boring possible place to set a map in a game that could have any style imaginable.

 

[Gui_PT]

Happy B to the D, Outer

 

[Der Flatulator]

It's the laziest of the lazy. Halo is not limited to earth. Halo is not limited to human architecture. Hell, Halo 4's multiplayer environments take place in a simulation. Why oh why are there maps where you have to jump around crates and barrels or walk up ramps of metal pipes to get around? Why am I staring at incongruous metal walls? It is the most boring possible place to set a map in a game that could have any style imaginable.

This is what came into my head:

 

[ElzarTheBam]

It's the laziest of the lazy. Halo is not limited to earth. Halo is not limited to human architecture. Hell, Halo 4's multiplayer environments take place in a simulation. Why oh why are there maps where you have to jump around crates and barrels or walk up ramps of metal pipes to get around? Why am I staring at incongruous metal walls? It is the most boring possible place to set a map in a game that could have any style imaginable.

This. Many times, this.

Well apart from the 'lazy' part, uninspired more like.

 

[The Real Napsta]

There will probably be a counter to PV. Blind eye pro if you will.

 

[Schmitty]

So when did the Mass Effect and Halo universe cross? Prometheans?!

 

[The Librarian]

So when did the Mass Effect and Halo universe cross? Prometheans?!

There aren't any Prometheans in Mass Effect.

Happy birthday, Zeo (go go Power Rangers).

 

[Der Flatulator]

There will probably be a counter to PV. Blind eye pro if you will.

I'm guessing 2-3. One Armor ability (Probably active camo), a support package (i.e. part of your load-out, effective the whole game), and a powerup, from a drop, which would last maybe a minute.

 

[Portugeezer]

I mean look at the radar:

What is this, I don't even:

Just borderline stupid moments to even use PV.

Yeah really, they just make it annoying to watch the footage.

PV here, PV there, PV when getting shot, PV when red dot on radar, PV when spotting someone infront of you.

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

 

[Overdoziz]

There will probably be a counter to PV. Blind eye pro if you will.

Rock, Paper, Scissors.
Sigh...

 

[Schmitty]

There aren't any Prometheans in Mass Effect.

Happy birthday, Zeo (go go Power Rangers).

Aren't they the extinct race that created the Mass Effect drives --- oh its Protheans, isn't it.

Close enough

 

[kylej]

This is what came into my head:

I think of Lockout, Midship, Narrows, and Construct. Maps that revolve around layout and playability first, rather than worry about whether a mech in the middle of the map looks believable, or if the skybox conveys the proper amount of canonical importance.

 

[The Librarian]

"Distraction +10!" I thought Boomwood was kidding about that. I'm watching the long video on Haven, and when that turned up it took me a few moments to register it: "Wait. What?"

 

[Tashi]

I think of Lockout, Midship, Narrows, and Construct. Maps that revolve around layout and playability first, rather than worry about whether a mech in the middle of the map looks believable, or if the skybox conveys the proper amount of canonical importance.

There are people who don't like Midship and the others you mentioned.

 

[Redford]

In any case, the demo forest looks like the perfect real-estate for a certain map.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

"Distraction +10!" I thought Boomwood was kidding about that. I'm watching the long video on Haven, and when that turned up it took me a few moments to register it: "Wait. What?"

If your teammate manages to kill the enemy whilst they are still focused (shooting) at you, it gives you the distraction medal.

I think that's how it works.

 

[AusQB]

So when did the Mass Effect and Halo universe cross? Prometheans?!

I already went there. Don't follow me down the rabbit hole.

 

[kylej]

There are people who don't like Midship and the others you mentioned.

What would you like me to do, tickle their nutsack with a feather? I like those maps, that's quite obviously why I made that post. The sentiment stands on its own regardless of what specific map examples you want to use.

 

[Karl2177]

I think of Lockout, Midship, Narrows, and Construct. Maps that revolve around layout and playability first, rather than worry about whether a mech in the middle of the map looks believable, or if the skybox conveys the proper amount of canonical importance.

When talking about layout and playability, you use two maps that have issues about layers getting from point A to point B. I like them both, but to demonstrate your point I would have used maps that weren't so linear.

 

[Der Flatulator]

I think of Lockout, Midship, Narrows, and Construct. Maps that revolve around layout and playability first, rather than worry about whether a mech in the middle of the map looks believable, or if the skybox conveys the proper amount of canonical importance.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree.

 

[JonCha]

Where can I see Overshield?

As said, MLG pros said in a vid posted here than it's in Ordnance Drops.

 

[feel]

What would you like me to do, tickle their nutsack with a feather? I like those maps, that's quite obviously why I made that post. The sentiment stands on its own regardless of what specific map examples you want to use.

bahahaha amazing

 

[Einchy]

I really hope now that they're adding join in progress, that they also set up a system to kick out players who AFK throughout the whole game.

 

[The Librarian]

There's Green Thumb. Here are some recommended changes (that is, my preferred Green Thumb layout). I'm definitely disliking that crouch is on B. Biggest complaints are zoom and active reload. Reload/action is easier on RB.

LB (or B) - sprint
LB (or B) - zoom
RS - melee
RB - action/reload
X - AA
LS - crouch
Y - switch weapon
RT - Fire weapon
LT - throw grenades
A - jump
up on dpad - switch grenades

343, zoom on RB DOES NOT WORK. It's very, very hard to fire my weapon and zoom in a firefight when I have to use the same finger for both.

 

[Tashi]

What would you like me to do, tickle their nutsack with a feather? I like those maps, that's quite obviously why I made that post. The sentiment stands on its own regardless of what specific map examples you want to use.

What? All I'm saying is that there will be maps we think suck and it won't be because of the graphical bullshit that's added.

 

[Overdoziz]

343, zoom on RB DOES NOT WORK. It's very, very hard to fire my weapon and zoom in a firefight when I have to use both for the same finger.

You press the triggers and bumpers with the same finger?

 

[AusQB]

You press the triggers and bumpers with the same finger?

Do you not?

 

[Gui_PT]

Do you not?

Naw mang. One finger for each

 

[Xater]

You press the triggers and bumpers with the same finger?

Yes, no one actually uses 4 fingers for the shoulder buttons.

 

[AusQB]

Naw mang. One finger for each

My middle fingers are used for many things, but trigger pulling is not one of them.

 

[Overdoziz]

Do you not?

Of course not, I use my index fingers for the bumpers and my middle fingers for the triggers.

 

[The Librarian]

You press the triggers and bumpers with the same finger?

Of course? It's uncomfortable to hold it any other way. Looking over the other layouts, Recon seems to be the one I like the most. If 343 doesn't make changes to Green Thumb, I may have to switch controller layouts for the first time in six years. I hope 343 adopts Recon's control layout but switches melee and reload. That's how it's always been.

 

[Vire]

Update on E3 Voting: Halo 4 down 20 for Game of The Show

I think we are running out of Halo-GAF members to vote.

Haha, oh well.