PROMETHEUS UNMARKED SPOILER THREAD!

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I think I read somewhere that a "leaked" or possibly fake script/treatment had the giant head actually speak at some point. Did anyone read the same thing? I kind of expected the giant head to have some importance in the movie, like maybe recount some history or something, given how prominently it was features in the promo material.

I think that moon, and the temple and tomb, are the equivalent of heathen temples. It had been built by the "fallen angels", for mankind to reach one day. God found out about the actions of the fallen angels, and punished them. The non-fallen (or repented) jockeys realized this, and to correct things went there and set up the place with goo (goo=God's will in liquid form). So if humans made it there, as the fallen angels had hoped, God would smite them. The thing is, the fallen angels were not spared by this judgement either, and fell victim to it.

The engineer at the end is one who managed to survive, and when he sees that indeed God was right, humans have even made it to the temple, which is wrong and a sin and something they failed to correct and that the humans were not even dead, he tried to kill them. He saw the situation as even worst than before: the place was set up to punish sinful-mankind if it did make it to the moon that the fallen angels had lured them to, but now not only did the humans indeed make it there, they were still alive! Basically it confirmed to him that the angels really sinned and now had to correct their mistake, but this time the situation being worst (humans have interstellar flight, etc.), he has to go and "clean" the Earth itself.

I think this would really explain pretty much everything. The invitation, the "prometheus" myth is clear there, the faith-aspect, the purpose of the goo, the way the engineer acted, why he wants to go back to Earth suddenly, etc.
 
As Leviticus is now in play, we can now conclude the Engineers in the hologram were running from an infected Engineer that got horny like Holloway leading to a mass gay orgy by the door.

Xenomorphs = punishment for sin!
 
He would rather have had people fighting against it and not know then spell it out. I know its obnoxious to say that you should see the movie a couple of times to really appreciate it but that is how the movie was designed – things that seem throwaway, for example when they do the carbon dating of the dead Engineer and realise that he’s been dead for two thousand years and you think ‘if two thousand years ago The Engineers decided to wipe us out what happened back then?’ Is there any correlation between what was happening on the Earth two thousand years ago and this decision? Could a sequel start in that time period and begin to contextualize what we did to piss these beings off

This combined with the Xeno mural looking like he's on a cross makes me think that Jesus let himself get xeno'd to kill the Engineers or something. Fits with the bible, Jesus dieing, coming back, then ascending into heaven physically.

That makes more sense then Engineers sending an emissary down and him getting killed, given we see one engineer wreck shit.
 
Well said.

This movie spent 2.5 hours acting like it was going to say something only to babble.

There is an illusion of depth in Prometheus, but that's only because it poses questions whose answers are all equally valid because the writers never give the audience anything to work with in the first place.

Funny, I recently saw a TV show just like that...
 
This combined with the Xeno mural looking like he's on a cross makes me think that Jesus let himself get xeno'd to kill the Engineers or something. Fits with the bible, Jesus dieing, coming back, then ascending into heaven physically.

That makes more sense then Engineers sending an emissary down and him getting killed, given we see one engineer wreck shit.

There's nothing to say that an emissary at that point in time would be a giant pale man. "Jesus" could have been crafted for the purpose, or he could have even been a human man taken by the Engineers to educate him and determine whether humanity was prepared for knowledge of the greater universe.
 
I think if the next film starts in the time of Christ with Jesus being crucified audiences will laugh their way out of the theater
 
I think if the next film starts in the time of Christ with Jesus being crucified audiences will laugh their way out of the theater

I don't think Scott will go with this. He'll go with the Prometheus idea more. So fallen angels/Prometheus gave mankind too much knowledge, God told them to undo their mistake. The whole Jesus thing wouldn't really work, except if Scott implies that an attempt to instill Christianity was to "dumb down" humans to reverse the act of having given them "fire".
 
I don't think any religion can be taken in a literal sense with Prometheus, it is all figurative. If anything we will see things like ancient cultures being the closest to the truth, where the Engineers visited earth and legend and misinterpretation sprung from there.

Hell, maybe they choose to eliminate humans due to us following Jesus and 'abandoning' them? One way or another, I dont think these things will be touched on directly, simply opened up to explore a bit.
 
Can someone link me to a detailed plot summary of this movie, because I have seen it only once, and want to read a recap of the story. (no wikipedia please, because its too simple of a summary, because this movie wasnt very simple)
 
I don't think any religion can be taken in a literal sense with Prometheus, it is all figurative. If anything we will see things like ancient cultures being the closest to the truth, where the Engineers visited earth and legend and misinterpretation sprung from there.

Hell, maybe they choose to eliminate humans due to us following Jesus and 'abandoning' them? One way or another, I dont think these things will be touched on directly, simply opened up to explore a bit.

If Shaw on her mission of semi-retribution is the star of the next film, the closest Scott may directly comment on these themes may be Shaw's idea of "faith" and "belief" being betrayed once and for all.

I seriously cannot see anything good or reassuring coming from her zooming off with a stolen warship having clung to her religious belief out of desperation. Hell, in the next film Shaw may just be completely fucking nuts.

As others have observed, a running theme in the film is harsh reality ripping apart delusions, aspirations, beliefs, and faith.
 
I seriously cannot see anything good or reassuring coming from her zooming off with a stolen warship having clung to her religious belief out of desperation. Hell, in the next film Shaw may just be completely fucking nuts.

I'd rather they not follow her and David's voyage at all. It can't end well, and I genuinely liked the more optimistic note that the movie ended on.
 
I think it will be buddy comedy.

David's always getting Liz in trouble with his hijinks! Opening mysterious doors, poisoning her boyfriends, you never know what that rascal will do next!

Just replace the dog and dude with Liz and Dave and we're good to go.

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Can someone link me to a detailed plot summary of this movie, because I have seen it only once, and want to read a recap of the story. (no wikipedia please, because its too simple of a summary, because this movie wasnt very simple)

Check moviespoiler.com
 
I really liked the movie a whole lot. not perfect but coming in NOT seeing alien/s, I want to now. Obviously they are thematically different, very excited to know what if any sequel happens to e about.

The lack of answers doesn't bother me, there is enough to interpret about. Why are people ragging about the movie?
 
I really liked the movie a whole lot. not perfect but coming in NOT seeing alien/s, I want to now. Obviously they are thematically different, very excited to know what if any sequel happens to e about.

The lack of answers doesn't bother me, there is enough to interpret about. Why are people ragging about the movie?

Because we have seen Alien, and we expected more from Ridley Scott.
 

In your conversations with Ridley did you discuss the other Alien films?

He hasn’t seen the Alien Vs. Predator films, he likes Cameron’s sequel but he admits to feeling a little conflicted that he was passed over in terms of directing the sequel. He’s a huge Fincher fan and feels sorry that David was so hamstrung in terms of what he could and could not do in terms of Alien 3 and while he acknowledges that it’s a beautiful looking film I think he wishes that Fincher would have been allowed to do what Fincher does on that film. I have a feeling that if Alien 3 had been Fincher’s third film instead of his first then it would have been up there in the pantheon of great sci-fi. We didn’t talk about Resurrection.

I lol'd. Fucking Resurrection.
 
Like what? midi-chlorians?

I tease.

It was funny seeing David in the beginning with the basketball and him drooling all over himself when his head decapitated.

Thats actually the best part of the movie in my opinion. The whole opening with David on the ship before any of the canon fodder wakes up.
 
Seriously, I did as well. I don't fare too well while watching medical scenes in television or shows, though, so my reaction wasn't unexpected...heh. Anything surgical, and I squirm.

I actually didnt find that to be too bad. The moment i squirmed in the film was when the snake hugger just broke the one dudes arm and the bone was showing. Anyone else with me?
 
Because we have seen Alien, and we expected more from Ridley Scott.

Yes. This is the most dissappointed i have ever been in a movie. Not tht it was bad on its own just that there were amazing things that could have been done and instead we got space odyssey redux. Wtf ridley you used to be cool man.
 
Seriously. This movie isn't worth the theorizing.

Agreed.

2001 is a great movie to speculate about. This crap they just tried to make as open ended as possible, and your literally seeing detective-gaf's finest break under the pressure of trying to make any sense of this.

If they make a Prometheus 2 it better be a lot of the answers to these questions. I feel like it'll be a ton of crap though and we'll be even more in the dark.
 
Agreed.

2001 is a great movie to speculate about. This crap they just tried to make as open ended as possible, and your literally seeing detective-gaf's finest break under the pressure of trying to make any sense of this.

If they make a Prometheus 2 it better be a lot of the answers to these questions. I feel like it'll be a ton of crap though and we'll be even more in the dark.

I don't really see why 2001 is any better to speculate about, it's got pretty similar themes and questions. And unlike prometheus, the 'real' answers are all in a book anyone can read.
 
I'm trying to remember the last time I saw such a well executed piece of shit... boy I hated that movie despite how impressed I was with individual aspects of it
 
From this interview: http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/06/0...-alien-family-tree-the-sequels-opening-scene/

Prometheus is promoting a question which is where we created by these things and did these things invite us to this place? The answer to that is yes. What isn’t answered is once we get there and realize that whatever they were making here they were going to drop on Earth but it got out and it killed them first. The new question is what did we do to make them want to kill us and Ridley wasn’t interested in answering that in this movie.

Lindelof also seems to imply that the Xenomorph itself is an accidental creation from David's meddling, but this seems way off since it was on the damn mural.

The above really implies that all the space jockeys were stopped, otherwise some others would have finished the job. Is the species only a few individuals?
 
I really liked the movie a whole lot. not perfect but coming in NOT seeing alien/s, I want to now. Obviously they are thematically different, very excited to know what if any sequel happens to e about.

The lack of answers doesn't bother me, there is enough to interpret about. Why are people ragging about the movie?

Because Alien and Aliens are godly, and Prometheus isn't. It's a bit of a disappointment. Especially as Scott hadn't done hard scifi in a long time and he arguably made two of the greatest scifi movies ever, and some would even say the best ever in Blade Runner.
 
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