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[Oldschoolgamer]

Wait you're saying Event Horizon is terrible? What the fuck?

Exactly what I'm saying. I like a lot of it's concepts and it's pacing is really nice, but it's nothing special to me. Odd as hell, since I enjoy Dead Space's story so much: especially considering the similarities.

Honestly, I was fine with it until he turned

Spoiler

super demon.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Exactly what I'm saying. I like a lot of it's concepts and it's pacing is really nice, but it's nothing special to me. Odd as hell, since I enjoy Dead Space's story so much: especially considering the similarities.

Honestly, I was fine with it until he turned

Spoiler

super demon.

Ah well that sounds like you enjoyed it for the most part, not it being terrible I know what you mean about the end, but it's a fascinating sci-fi/horror and is regarded as such I thought.

 

[Dresden]

It's an expedition to an alien moon, you'd have so many overly qualified candidates just begging to go. I don't think this is some egregious fault of the movie like some of the other shit people have discussed here but it doesn't make a lot of sense that the crew feels so ragtag for such an expedition. Not to mention feeling somewhat understaffed, with no real weaponry outside of pistols and flamethrowers.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Cross-posting from the other thread (My take on Black Goop and "Proto-Xeno):

What I took is that the goop mutates and eventually breaks life down, while infected by the goop species slowly turn, at first staying fairly normal. If they reproduce during that time, they will give birth to a new species that is related to a facehugger (Snake, Squid); the infected hosts acted as an egg. From there it has to infect a new host via facehugger style (squid on engineer, snake on Milburn) and from there an adult form chestbursts. If I had to guess, eventually something like a queen comes along bypassing black goop and first hosts by laying eggs that has facehuggers. This is all speculation, but it would explain why the squidhugger and snakehugger acted the way it did. It doesn't fully explain zombie Fiefield but I suppose its a form of spreading 'infection'. The movie certainly should have clarified this a bit, as it leaves things a little too open and confusing.

Clearly the Xeno existed before this movie, but whether the engineers created it or they created the goop from the Xeno is unknown.

Eh, he was the only person on the ship to have seen the video feeds from the other two guys finding the bodies piled up at the door. He saw everything that was going on, including entering on his own later. The film has gaps but they clearly showed him putting the pieces together before that scene (though it was clearly there for the benefit of those who hadn't stitched it together).

Yeah, it didnt really bug me, at first I was like "wtf" but then I remembered he was monitoring everything so I assume mixed with the narrative from others and what he saw he drew a logical conclusion.

Why do aliens always look so much a like? Where are the girl jockeys? Plotholes.

Just because we didn't see a female Jockey out of like the 3 we saw doesn't mean they don't exist..

What's everyone's take on this picture.

Interesting. Was that the alternative take of Fiefields mutation? It clearly has some Xeno like characteristics. One way or another it looks like the ideas they had where there and had better explanations, but how the film displayed them was more confusing than what it had to be.

 

[Spotless Mind]

I'm reading that Lindelof interview posted on the last page. Ugh. He is still as obnoxious as ever.

 

[JB1981]

That just says it all. Why would they keep the real goal of a trillion dollar expedition a secret, when it was likely people would react just like Fifield did? Wouldn't Weyland want to hire people that wouldn't balk at the first sight of an alien body? It was a ridiculous premise to swallow. It was obviously Lindelof's excuse to write in a bunch of lazy exposition.

They were guns for hire, so to speak, looking for a payday. Terraforming, colonizing planets, space travel; these things all seem pretty commonplace in this future world (if we are to go by the hologram of Weyland, which shows Mars or some other planet being terraformed).

Again, I see your point, but its incidental to the plot of the movie.

 

[linkboy]

It's kind of like in Alien when what's his face goes looking for the cat by himself when the little alien is running around. Same shit. Characters do stupid shit in these kinds of movies. It does make absolutely no fucking sense that those two guys decided to set up shop in the Chamber room with all the vases and the spilled black goo though. Very stupid, especially since they are so freaked out.

That cat in Alien pissed me off to no end. Seriously, save your own ass and let the fucking thing get killed.

Ripley going back for it was totally stupid.

Also, if the crew in Alien had stuck together, they might have had a fighting chance, but splitting up played right into the Alien's hands.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Ah well that sounds like you enjoyed it for the most part, not it being terrible I know what you mean about the end, but it's a fascinating sci-fi/horror and is regarded as such I thought.

Yea, true. My words were a bit harsh. lol. Probably more so my disappointment with this carrying over to other films in the "genre". Event Horizon did get me wondering though. Is there something like Silent Hill set in space? I guess it's the closest?

 

[JB1981]

It's an expedition to an alien moon, you'd have so many overly qualified candidates just begging to go. I don't think this is some egregious fault of the movie like some of the other shit people have discussed here but it doesn't make a lot of sense that the crew feels so ragtag for such an expedition. Not to mention feeling somewhat understaffed, with no real weaponry outside of pistols and flamethrowers.

Prometheus is like a private yacht in space. It's not like some collective effort of mankind.

BTW, speaking of Millburn. When the crew find him and Fiefield, the Snake thing jumps from his mouth but we never see him again after that. I wonder if he was killed or impregnated?

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

The crew in Alien might have done well if they stuck together, but the Xenomorph wasn't the only thing on the ship that was going to cause them harm. Ash was more than capable of taking on two people at once.

 

[Sickboy007]

So, this movie doesn't really make sense. But i guess i still liked it, probably because i'm starved for some good looking sci-fi.

The Ampule Chamber - AKA the Room With the Giant Head. Scott's cue to the design team was to treat it like a cathedral, though without any clear ties to known religions. The murals on the ceiling depict the "Creation, Armageddon, and Judgment cycle."

I'm hoping this doesn't end with the overused cliché of ciclical rebirth a la Matrix/Mass Effect.

 

[commedieu]

Prometheus is like a private yacht in space. It's not like some collective effort of mankind.

BTW, speaking of Millburn. When the crew find him and Fiefield, the Snake thing jumps from his mouth but we never see him again after that. I wonder if he was killed or impregnated?

Prometheus is like a private spacecraft owned by the worlds most wealth man, spending a trillion dollars on the ship and journey alone. The first of its kind to discover alien life.

The crew was full of imbeciles that took their helmets off 4 minutes after landing.

 

[Redux]

Was laughing my ass off when David got his head wacked off.

Oh and when his head was also put in a zip bag.

 

[JB1981]

Prometheus is like a private spacecraft owned by the worlds most wealth man, spending a trillion dollars on the ship and journey alone. The first of its kind to discover alien life.

The crew was full of imbeciles that took their helmets off 4 minutes after landing.

Halloway clearly says that the air not only breathable but cleaner than Earth's atmosphere. I love how people keep bringing this point up too. It's like you guys love to just spend all your time moaning over minor details, which of course, make the movie complete shit in your eyes.

 

[commedieu]

Halloway clearly says that the air not only breathable but cleaner than Earth's atmosphere. I love how people keep bringing this point up too.

I love how people are forgetting that they are on an uncharted alien planet which would clearly have alien pathogens and bacteria that Earth sensors wouldn't pick up. Since they are on an Alien planet. Noomi even suspects the air to be a culprit, as it could be something in the air for her boytoys disease. Any scientist, for the love of god, wouldn't take off a safety suit just as a precaution.

Defending this is pointless friendo. The movie shoots itself in the foot over and over and over.

 

[JB1981]

I love how people are forgetting that they are on an uncharted alien planet which would clearly have alien pathogens and bacteria that Earth sensors wouldn't pick up. Since they are on an Alien planet.Noomi even suspects the air to be a culprit, as it could be something in the air for her boytoys disease.

Defending this is pointless friendo. The movie shoots itself in the foot over and over and over.

she says that because of the spilled black bacteria, and david tells her no. it was not simply because of the air.

 

[commedieu]

she says that because of the spilled bacteria, not simply because of the air.

Nope she says because it could be "Something in the air, we could all be infected."

No rational scientific character is taking off its saftey suit in an unknown environment. I don't have to lie to myself about it. "Earths technology says this alien air is ok!"

Yeahhh.. i'll enjoy my safe earth air.

 

[BuddyJoeHooker]

They were guns for hire, so to speak, looking for a payday. Terraforming, colonizing planets, space travel; these things all seem pretty commonplace in this future world (if we are to go by the hologram of Weyland, which shows Mars or some other planet being terraformed).

Again, I see your point, but its incidental to the plot of the movie.

I don't think they had the technology yet, remember how Shaw was freaking out "we won't have a home to go back too". If mankind was that far along colonizing they probably be able to defend themselves from one ship and one engineer. I think mankind still need a technological push and that is with Engineer tech, their terraforming capabilities, and their stasis pod chambers. I believe they aged two years with their current human tech. No way to know for sure.

 

[Alrus]

Halloway clearly says that the air not only breathable but cleaner than Earth's atmosphere. I love how people keep bringing this point up too. It's like you guys love to just spend all your time moaning over minor details, which of course, make the movie complete shit in your eyes.

Well it's supposed to be a very "high end" mission, yet all the "scientists" on the crew show complete lack of respect for protocol and complete idiocy/incompetence. The air being "cleaner" or "breathable" doesn't mean there's no pathogen in it, so taking off your helmet so quickly is dumb as hell.

I understand why it was done (easier to film), but that doesn't make it any less stupid.

 

[JB1981]

Nope she says because it could be "Something in the air, we could all be infected."

and yes she says that later on, after their second visit when the bacteria got out.

 

[commedieu]

and yes she says that later on, after their second visit when the bacteria got out.

Wrong. And plus, they took their helmets off on an uncharted alien planet with unknown everything. Which you keep missing.

 

[way more]

I love how people are forgetting that they are on an uncharted alien planet which would clearly have alien pathogens and bacteria that Earth sensors wouldn't pick up. Since they are on an Alien planet. Noomi even suspects the air to be a culprit, as it could be something in the air for her boytoys disease. Any scientist, for the love of god, wouldn't take off a safety suit just as a precaution.

Defending this is pointless friendo. The movie shoots itself in the foot over and over and over.

Well, I gotta trust you, you're the expert.

 

[JB1981]

Wrong. And plus, they took their helmets off on an uncharted alien planet with unknown everything. Which you keep missing.

It's not wrong. I just got back from the movie. She orders a quarantine because Halloway is "sick." This is on their second visit (to retrieve Fiefield and Millburn). She says this because the black goo has come out of the urns. They comment that the stuff wasn't there when they first got there.

And honestly, I really don't give a shit. It's not enough for me to write off the whole movie.

 

[commedieu]

Well, I gotta trust you, you're the expert.

Hell yeah! I'm an expert that knows you don't take off any sort of safety suit on an unknown alien planet. Also, you don't poke Space snakes, or earth snakes. Lemme know if theres anything else you want to know about how not act on a scientific expedition.

Bonus,

When you're running away from an object falling in a straight line, sidestep to the side. Like Noomi did to survive

Movie again, shooting itself in bloody stump.

It's not wrong. I just got back from the movie. She orders a quarantine because Halloway is "sick." This is on their second visit (to retrieve Fiefield and Millburn). She says this because the black goo has come out of the urns. They comment that the stuff wasn't there when they first got there.

And honestly, I really don't give a shit. It's not enough for me to write off the whole movie.

And you assume I am? No, we are having a discussion about it, and people keep chiming in about how the plot holes weren't that bad. They were, and they were often. I enjoyed it. Really let down by the horrible, horrible writing. And in this thread, the horrible writing is being picked apart. There is no defense for any of it, outside of just bad writing. And you're still wrong.

I guess you missed the part where Charlize fell eh?

yeah, and its impossible to roll to the side, like noomi did, and the entire 100 yard straight run.

You know its stupid, I know its stupid, everyone knows its stupid.

Every think that may have been the CGI departments fault? Like maybe the ship int hier winds was covering every with way and out running it seemed the most logical, and then the CG changed? Every movie has stupid shit like this, and hell I have seen people do illogical shit like this in real life. It doesn't break the damn film.

No because the object didn't change shape, or its direction until later. Noomi was running behind Charlize. Anyway, I know you know that if something is falling on you, slowly, and in a straight line, you run to the side, like Noomi did. Or when you fall, you roll to the side. Like noomi did.

 

[Vyer]

Halloway clearly says that the air not only breathable but cleaner than Earth's atmosphere. I love how people keep bringing this point up too. It's like you guys love to just spend all your time moaning over minor details, which of course, make the movie complete shit in your eyes.

The problem with that is even the other characters say Halloway is an idiot for taking it off. The breathability is never a question, as their analysis tells them this right off the bat. They are literally one room into this massive God knows what, call the dude stupid and crazy, then go ahead and do the same thing.

I too would not care about little things here and there. But they just kept adding up. The movie fell into some cliched horror movie stupidity, and that's just kind of disappointing.

 

[JB1981]

Hell yeah! I'm an expert that knows you don't take off any sort of safety suit on an unknown alien planet. Also, you don't poke Space snakes, or earth snakes. Lemme know if theres anything else you want to know about how not act on a scientific expedition.

Bonus,

When you're running away from an object falling in a straight line, sidestep to the side. Like Noomi did to survive

Movie again, shooting itself in bloody stump.

I guess you missed the part where Charlize fell eh?

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Hell yeah! I'm an expert that knows you don't take off any sort of safety suit on an unknown alien planet. Also, you don't poke Space snakes, or earth snakes. Lemme know if theres anything else you want to know about how not act on a scientific expedition.

Bonus,

When you're running away from an object falling in a straight line, sidestep to the side. Like Noomi did to survive

Movie again, shooting itself in bloody stump.

Every think that may have been the CGI departments fault? Like maybe the ship int hier winds was covering every with way and out running it seemed the most logical, and then the CG changed? Every movie has stupid shit like this, and hell I have seen people do illogical shit like this in real life. It doesn't break the damn film.

 

[commedieu]

The problem with that is even the other characters say Halloway is an idiot for taking it off. The breathability is never a question, as their analysis tells them this right off the bat. They are literally one room into this massive God knows what, call the dude stupid and crazy, then go ahead and do the same thing.

I too would not care about little things here and there. But they just kept adding up. The movie fell into some cliched horror movie stupidity, and that's just kind of disappointing.

Nah, its safe. Halloway is expert.

Every think that may have been the CGI departments fault? Like maybe the ship int hier winds was covering every with way and out running it seemed the most logical, and then the CG changed? Every movie has stupid shit like this, and hell I have seen people do illogical shit like this in real life. It doesn't break the damn film.

Did I say this one single incident broke it, or have I been saying all along its a laundry list of dumbassetry that makes it bad? Please stop having tunnel vision and thinking the entire world laughing at this movie just has a single issue with it. Its the entire whole of it, which makes it laughable, and yes, breaks the film. Poor writing did this one in unfortunately.

 

[Tookay]

Every think that may have been the CGI departments fault? Like maybe the ship int hier winds was covering every with way and out running it seemed the most logical, and then the CG changed? Every movie has stupid shit like this, and hell I have seen people do illogical shit like this in real life. It doesn't break the damn film.

Look, were this a smarter film, problems like this wouldn't be brought up. This shit is the just the icing on the cake for most people.

And even if it is nitpicking, there are so many stupid little things like this, they add up. It's death by a thousand paper cuts.

 

[JB1981]

Hell yeah! I'm an expert that knows you don't take off any sort of safety suit on an unknown alien planet. Also, you don't poke Space snakes, or earth snakes. Lemme know if theres anything else you want to know about how not act on a scientific expedition.

Bonus,

When you're running away from an object falling in a straight line, sidestep to the side. Like Noomi did to survive

Movie again, shooting itself in bloody stump.



And you assume I am? No, we are having a discussion about it, and people keep chiming in about how the plot holes weren't that bad. They were, and they were often. I enjoyed it. Really let down by the horrible, horrible writing. And in this thread, the horrible writing is being picked apart. There is no defense for any of it, outside of just bad writing. And you're still wrong.



yeah, and its impossible to roll to the side, like noomi did, and the entire 100 yard straight run.

You know its stupid, I know its stupid, everyone knows its stupid.



No because the object didn't change shape, or its direction until later. Noomi was running behind Charlize. Anyway, I know you know that if something is falling on you, slowly, and in a straight line, you run to the side, like Noomi did. Or when you fall, you roll to the side. Like noomi did.

Just roll to the side from a fucking MASSIVE spaceship? OK .. IIRC Noomi didn't just roll to the side anyway .. Again ... mountains out of mole hills.

At some point a lot of this feels like a self satisfied exercise in trying to prove to people how intelligent you think you are

 

[Dresden]

Just roll to the side from a fucking MASSIVE spaceship? OK .. IIRC Noomi didn't just roll to the side anyway .. Again ... mountains out of mole hills.

Uh... that's what she did. She literally rolled a few times to the side and survived.

 

[Sickboy007]

Why was Elba acting so damn weird during the communication with the two idiots lost in the pyramid? Smiling and joking all around while they're scared shitless, acting nonchalantly at the lifeform signal, abandoning the bridge to shag Theron while two men are stranded in the middle of a fucking alien made structure.

 

[commedieu]

Look, were this a smarter film, problems like this wouldn't be brought up. This shit is the just the icing on the cake for most people.

And even if it is nitpicking, there are so many stupid little things like this, they add up. It's death by a thousand paper cuts.

100% agreed, its that it all adds up. Which blows, due to the franchise/content. But its not getting a B movie Sci-Fi pass because they had bad writers and no budget.

Just roll to the side from a fucking MASSIVE spaceship? OK .. IIRC Noomi didn't just roll to the side anyway .. Again ... mountains out of mole hills.

At some point a lot of this feels like a self satisfied exercise in trying to prove to people how intelligent you think you are

Oh please. Stop with the nonsense. "Trying to prove how intelligent you think you are." Save that for a meaningful subject. You're defending a character running in a straight line, as well as people taking off their masks on an alien planet. Let me remind you once again, I enjoyed the movie. Didn't enjoy the horrible writing, that this entire thread points out over and over again. These aren't my unique finds with the movie. You can scroll up in this page and see the exact same observations.

And Charlize fell the fuck over in a ditch and couldnt get the fuck up. Are you people serious right now ?

Now theres a DITCH?!?! Oh my god.

edit;

I'm not saying anything new. Feel free to read this thread. The actual theories on lore are far more interesting than the horrible writing. So, ya. Sorry we disagree, but thats what it is.

 

[JB1981]

Uh... that's what she did. She literally rolled a few times to the side and survived.

And Charlize fell the fuck over in a ditch and couldnt get the fuck up. Are you people serious right now ?

 

[Replicant]

So since we're already touching the idea of Angels, what if the Engineers are actually just Angels? God asked them to create us using their likeness and at first they agreed but eventually they resented us because God seems to prefer us more than them. So they start flirting with the devil (aka Xenomorph) and one day they accidentally unleashed that. /tinfoilhattheory.

 

[Dresden]

Why was Elba acting so damn weird during the communication with the two idiots lost in the pyramid? Smiling and joking all around while they're scared shitless, acting nonchalantly at the lifeform signal, abandoning the bridge to shag Theron while two men are stranded in the middle of a fucking alien made structure.

I thought that he was trying to keep them calm, but there's never any effort to communicate and guide them to a safer spot or some place closer to the exit.

That said you can't pass up an opportunity to shag Theron.

 

[Karma Kramer]

And Charlize fell the fuck over in a ditch and couldnt get the fuck up. Are you people serious right now ?

Yeah some of the nitpicking is getting a bit absurd for even my cynical mind. I'm glad I wasnt thinking about a lot of the crap during the film as some. Guess that doesn't make me the brightest or something but w/e. Great sci fi film/10

 

[linkboy]

Why was Elba acting so damn weird during the communication with the two idiots lost in the pyramid? Smiling and joking all around while they're scared shitless, acting nonchalantly at the lifeform signal, abandoning the bridge to shag Theron while two men are stranded in the middle of a fucking alien made structure.

If Charlize Theron told me to meet her in her room in 10 minutes, I'd ditch those two idiots too.

That's a once in a lifetime offer that doesn't come about often.

 

[Sickboy007]

I thought that he was trying to keep them calm, but there's never any effort to communicate and guide them to a safer spot or some place closer to the exit.

That said you can't pass up an opportunity to shag Theron.

If Charlize Theron told me to meet her in her room in 10 minutes, I'd ditch those two idiots too.

That's a once in a lifetime offer that doesn't come about often.

You guys raise a good point.

At the end of the day he's just a good ol' working class space captain hired by a multibillionaire to command the ship that will discover the origin of humankind.

He needs some lovin too.

 

[HoodWinked]

You guys raise a good point.

At the end of the day he's just a good ol' working class space captain hired by a multibillionaire to command the ship that will discover the origin of humankind.

He needs some lovin too.

white women is black mans kryptonite.

 

[linkboy]

white women is black mans kryptonite.

Either that or Charlize Theron is any man's kryptonite.

 

[shintoki]

Guys got it backwards. Theron had the honor of sleeping with Elba.

 

[BuddyJoeHooker]

Either that or Charlize Theron is any man's kryptonite.

Charlize Theron transcends ethnic backgrounds.

 

[commedieu]

Charlize Theron transcends ethnic backgrounds.

You know the weird thing was that it almost seemed like Elba had a family back home?(We wont know, thanks to the writing.. but..) And thats what he ended up killing himself to protect.

But he shagged Charly.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Charlize Theron transcends ethnic backgrounds.

Goddess.

 

[Dead]

Sorry, I just meant to say my feelings on the plot/narrative are still gestating having just seen it. But there were a lot of inconsitencies with me as well and the ending coming up fast on me. Like it was necessary to wrap it up. The whole Shaw thing was so confusing. She was meant to be quarantined followed by stasis and yet she's in the private wing, performing surgery on herself, and when she's seen again by David and Weyland, it's like they expected her.

Visually I fucking loved it though.

I tend to think David was testing the goo for healing properties, or eliminating Holloway because he felt he was a threat to the actual mission. He may have known more than he let on from the start.

Motherfuck. That actually...makes sense

 

[thecouncil]

so the Engineers are the Xel'Naga of this movie, huh?

creating the humans (protoss) and the xenomorphs (zerg) and the zerg got outta control.

 

[rozay]

I just saw this today, after the final scene everyone was silent except for someone nearby who said "what the fuck?"

I went in with my brain shut off and still felt like it really suffered from poor pacing and I didn't care about most of the characters. Could be serviceable if some utterly retarded conflicts like where that guy fucked everyone up in the hangar were cut, they could've killed everyone involved in that scene when Elba crashed the ship into the engineer ship.

I think i'd give it somewhere between a 6 and a 7

I tend to think David was testing the goo for healing properties, or eliminating Holloway because he felt he was a threat to the actual mission. He may have known more than he let on from the start.

I think one, the other, or both of these are decent explanations, though it would make more sense if there was any indication that he knew more than he wanted to let on.

 

[BuddyJoeHooker]

Motherfuck. That actually...makes sense

It does makes sense but it wasn't explained, drawing your own conclusions is bad writing. The conversation between David and Holloway was one of the better scenes of the movie. I thought David did it because he could. Kind of like Ash and Burke from earlier Alien films.

 

[Dead]

Having to piece it together yourself doesn't make it bad writing.

What kinda sorta does though is how the pregnancy revelation kinda comes out of nowhere a bit after the infection.

Seems like something that would make you go "DERP" on a 2nd viewing, but on a first viewing, the info is just too scattershot to piece it together right away.