What's so weird about the idea?
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But this was the pre-face hugger... bah.. but there were vermin on the Alien ship, i think, even a trash dump. It was the size of a room..
maybe... anything is possible on an alien planet.
The first thing I thought of when I heard that quote in the trailer was The Golden Bough. I got really excited because It seemed to imply that the movie might be interested in having a serious philosophical debate about the nature of religion and the repetitive imaginary of self-sacrificial gods. But the movie never went into any of that, the quote in the actual film turns out to be just a jab made by Vickers to her father about how no one lives forever. Really disappointing.
Probably just ate a few extra crew members the director forgot about for subsistence.
I like what the Jesus theory suggests: Humans have become so greedy and self-absorbed, IE Theron wanted her fathers wealth (or at least it seemed like it). Such greed/hatred/bad personality traits could be reasons for the Engineers wanting to stop us, if Janek's proposed theory is true.
As for my view? I just thought it was her telling her father that he'll die.
Yeah this is basically the reason I had no problem with the tentacle monster's size. But I did wonder why that creature's purpose seemed limited to incubating a host when it's able to handle things for itself so adeptly. It's gigantic, powerful, dexterous and likely perfectly mobile. Thing's more an apex predator.
It makes sense why your average small and otherwise ineffectual facehugger is relegated to a parasitic role, but not really the super-facehugger seen in Prometheus. Its great size seems particularly odd when you consider that they die after the incubation process. Much smaller facehuggers are quite effective in that identical role so it makes you wonder what the purpose of the size and strength are. Accidental byproduct seems the only explanation.
In the novell they put food out for it...
And I belive there is a scene in the script that show the food storage being trashed and alot of food eaten.
"I like to refer to this movie as Alien 0: In Space No One has heard of OSHA or Basic Laboratory Safety."
Heh. They should have made the crew of Prometheus watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvkAAomMg-k
Heh. They should have made the crew of Prometheus watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvkAAomMg-k
Haha.
Thank god Alien didn't have a cast as large as Prometheus. Seriously.
Anyways, I don't think the movie portrays a lot of time for the Alien to have gone and eaten, digested, and grown from random stuff by any reasonable metabolism. We're talking about like 1000% mass gain in a couple of hours, if that. I don't remember a lot of downtime between the Alien bursting and them going off looking for it.
Karsticles
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Help me out here GAF:
I wasn't entirely clear that the superhuman fellas were the engineers in the film. Aside from the humans assuming so, is there anything that definitely shows they created humanity? I finished watching the film thinking that these guys were also engineered by the engineers, and no engineers were actually found.
I wasn't entirely clear that the superhuman fellas were the engineers in the film. Aside from the humans assuming so, is there anything that definitely shows they created humanity? I finished watching the film thinking that these guys were also engineered by the engineers, and no engineers were actually found.
I think it's much more likely they'd see Weyland's search for immortality as immoral than his daughter's desire to seek renewal and continuation after his death.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Did you come into the film 5 minutes late?
Just because it got bigger doesn't mean the volume to mass ratio stayed the same. Maybe it ate the gomu gomu no mi!
Karsticles
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No, but I don't recall that scene having anything to do with the creation of man.
Ah, yes a better example. Which could also be the reason for such a negative reaction between the Engineer and Weyland, David, and co.
Supposedly that's how they seeded Earth with their genes.
In an early draft, yup:
Well, it didn't take long for that chestburster to be born, after all... Guess they have a crazy metabolism.
Logic prevails
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Do you have a link to the full draft?
My memory of the opening is a bit fuzzy, but wasn't everything already green and lush, and therefore life had developed before them? I wish I could find a video of the scene to refresh my memory.
Must have been a pretty early draft, those aren't even the same names as in the film. I don't think it really helps the argument. This is all noise, the film is the film and pulling stuff out of book adaptations and early drafts means pretty much nothing. By that logic there were xenomorph eggs in Prometheus and we just didn't see them, because they were in an earlier draft.
Well, surely, they kept food somewhere, on the Nostromo. And the critter could move as he pleased. The possibility is there.
In the final film, the chestburster having grown is supposed to be a surprise (hence the cat chasing sequence: they didn't know what they were going against, at that point), so maybe they deemed superfluous to have a scene then explain "some of our food is missing! oh, I guess that's how he grew up!"?
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Um, pretty sure she hears a screeching sound. Might be wrong.
it's not surprising she'd forget about the squid after all that happened. Plus, she probs thought it was still frozen.
I think it's more likely that having a creature inexplicably growing to several orders of magnitude its original size in what seems like a couple of hours seemed scarier than said exposition or a large time lag. Which those scripts are rife with. One of them has a sex scene between Dallas and Ripley, incidentally. Somehow I just find that strange.
I am among the biggest Alien and Aliens fan. TO the point that I wrote a prequal sequal to the series.
That was a bad movie. It had a lot of interesting concepts, was visually compelling, but overall it was bad. I put it behind Aliens 3 even. What the fuck?
Such a sad ending to the series.
That was a bad movie. It had a lot of interesting concepts, was visually compelling, but overall it was bad. I put it behind Aliens 3 even. What the fuck?
Such a sad ending to the series.
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It's not an ending to the series - there'll probably be a sequel: it's shaping up to be a success, Ridley said he wants to do one, and the film sets up for one.
The door opens and the room is torn apart. Then she grabs an axe. There is blood, but I think it's her blood from the surgery.
I had forgotten about the squid, too, and as soon as I saw the room torn up I was like "Oh shi-, oh, she grabbed an axe. Smart"
What themes did your fanfic center around?
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Maybe he's Jon Spaihts!?!
That'd be great.
Whoever gets to write the sequel (if there's one, of course, and I hope not) has all my sympathy...
Pray they don't ask Lindelof back then. Idiot will just tie even more knots. Fox sometimes respond to valid criticism's so you never know.
Last week, it kinda sounded like he was going back to TV shows (not that I'd want him there either), but then I heard he was working on World War Z, so cinema isn't quite safe yet...
He's working on Star Trek 2 too.
The Fantastic Space Adventures of Noomi and The Head
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Yeah, script in that is entirely inconsequential. Just give us some fun performances and fun direction.
Yes, pretty much. It probably helps that I never was a Star Trek fan, but I can see myself be entertained by that one.
Joel Was Right
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So what's the general consensus here?
Like they go to the Engineer home world, and find out the Engineers are about to launch an attack on Earth with a ship full of xenomorph eggs that they waited 2000 years to launch because... and then they cause the ship to crash on Alien planet.
Kevin Smith should definitely write and direct.
Joel Was Right
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And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. - Jude 1:6
Certainly possible. Biblical history clearly states there are two opposing factions (good and evil). The Chariots of the Gods, the book the film is based on, also focuses on this theme. Even the God Prometheus; he was punished by his own.
And the porn spin off!
The Fantastic Space Adventures of Noomi on Bended knees giving Head.
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She does take David's body with her though, so maybe she stitches him back together in the sequel.
Also, I liked that the superhugger was gigantic in this. It was the product of an uncontrolled experiment. Makes sense that the Engineer created versions are smaller and more efficient.
The more I think about this film the more I like it. It's so atypical of a Hollywood blockbuster that I can't help but admire it.
Also, I liked that the superhugger was gigantic in this. It was the product of an uncontrolled experiment. Makes sense that the Engineer created versions are smaller and more efficient.
The more I think about this film the more I like it. It's so atypical of a Hollywood blockbuster that I can't help but admire it.
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I was in the same boat padawan, but now?
Not me any more. All the Jesus talk has annoyed the shit out of me. I was perfectly happy just trying to work out the goo -> xenomorph cycle, but now it just doesn't matter.You need to mature a little to be able to handle the internetz!
I was in the same boat padawan, but now?
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