What's so weird about the idea?Uh huh.
What's so weird about the idea?Uh huh.
Things in Alien movies like to grow. The xeno in Alien didn't eat anything before it was taller than a person.
"A King has his reign and then he dies, it's inevitable"
When I first heard it in the trailer I thought they'd tie that quote to the mythology of the Space Jockey/Human relationship but much to my disappointment it was just an analogue for a relationship between Vickers/her dad, which wasn't even explored much in the first place. Do you guys think there's a way for that quote to somehow be related to the Engineers/Humans relationship?
But this was the pre-face hugger... bah.. but there were vermin on the Alien ship, i think, even a trash dump. It was the size of a room..
maybe... anything is possible on an alien planet.
"A King has his reign and then he dies, it's inevitable"
When I first heard it in the trailer I thought they'd tie that quote to the mythology of the Space Jockey/Human relationship but much to my disappointment it was just an analogue for a relationship between Vickers/her dad, which wasn't even explored much in the first place. Do you guys think there's a way for that quote to somehow be related to the Engineers/Humans relationship?
Things in Alien movies like to grow. The xeno in Alien didn't eat anything before it was taller than a person.
Uh huh.
Seriously, people need to let this one go. It's like going to Attack of the 50ft Woman and complaining that her spine wouldn't be able to support her height. It's a conceit of the series and you just gotta accept that things in Alien movies grow because of midichlorians or something.
Probably just ate a few extra crew members the director forgot about for subsistence.
I like what the Jesus theory suggests: Humans have become so greedy and self-absorbed, IE Theron wanted her fathers wealth (or at least it seemed like it). Such greed/hatred/bad personality traits could be reasons for the Engineers wanting to stop us, if Janek's proposed theory is true.
As for my view? I just thought it was her telling her father that he'll die.
Help me out here GAF:
I wasn't entirely clear that the superhuman fellas were the engineers in the film. Aside from the humans assuming so, is there anything that definitely shows they created humanity? I finished watching the film thinking that these guys were also engineered by the engineers, and no engineers were actually found.
Haha.
Thank god Alien didn't have a cast as large as Prometheus. Seriously.
Anyways, I don't think the movie portrays a lot of time for the Alien to have gone and eaten, digested, and grown from random stuff by any reasonable metabolism. We're talking about like 1000% mass gain in a couple of hours, if that. I don't remember a lot of downtime between the Alien bursting and them going off looking for it.
No, but I don't recall that scene having anything to do with the creation of man.Did you come into the film 5 minutes late?
I think it's much more likely they'd see Weyland's search for immortality as immoral than his daughter's desire to seek renewal and continuation after his death.
No, but I don't recall that scene having anything to do with the creation of man.
In an early draft, yup:And I belive there is a scene in the script that show the food storage being trashed and alot of food eaten.
FAUST: I know what we can do. We can pump poison gas into the room and kill it. Through those ventilator slots there.
He indicates a row of slots in the bottom of the door.
ROBY: Hey, wait a minute! That's all our food supplies in there! We can't pump poison gas all over them!
STANDARD: Once we kill the thing we won't need the food any more -- we can go straight into hypersleep. Also, it sounds like that thing is already doing a pretty good job on our supplies; it may be fouling them all.
ROBY: You win.
INTERIOR - FOOD STORAGE ROOM
The room is thick with the poison gas. The men look like insects in their gasmasks.
The food packages are ripped to shreds, and foodstuffs are scattered all over the floor.
FAUST: Looks like he helped himself.
Well, it didn't take long for that chestburster to be born, after all... Guess they have a crazy metabolism.I don't think the movie portrays a lot of time for the Alien to have gone and eaten, digested, and grown from random stuff by any reasonable metabolism.
In an early draft, yup:
Well, it didn't take long for that chestburster to be born, after all... Guess they have a crazy metabolism.
Do you have a link to the full draft?In an early draft, yup:
Well, it didn't take long for that chestburster to be born, after all... Guess they have a crazy metabolism.
My memory of the opening is a bit fuzzy, but wasn't everything already green and lush, and therefore life had developed before them? I wish I could find a video of the scene to refresh my memory.Supposedly that's how they seeded Earth with their genes.
In an early draft, yup:
Well, it didn't take long for that chestburster to be born, after all... Guess they have a crazy metabolism.
Well, surely, they kept food somewhere, on the Nostromo. And the critter could move as he pleased. The possibility is there.Must have been a pretty early draft, those aren't even the same names as in the film. I don't think it really helps the argument.
Of course, that doesn't quite solve the issue of Janek not addressing those last crew members before crashing the ship into the Juggernaut....
Does he know they're dead? If so, shouldn't he be a bit concerned about the thing that killed them? Is he fine with leaving it in the emergency module as a surprise for Vickers and Shaw?
Speaking of Shaw, doesn't she pick an axe as soon as she gets in that module? What for, if that's before David tells her about the Engineer coming for-her-Barbra? I mean, it's nice of her to act cautiously all of a sudden, but it is sudden, after two hours of people acting like absent-minded morons (that would include the hypothetical eaten-by-the-squid crew members, by the by)... Did she just remember about the squid? "Why do I feel like I forgot something in that part of the ship... Oh, right!"
Ah, could be.Um, pretty sure she hears a screeching sound. Might be wrong.
It was the 70s!One of them has a sex scene between Dallas and Ripley, incidentally. Somehow I just find that strange.
I am among the biggest Alien and Aliens fan. TO the point that I wrote a prequal sequal to the series.
That was a bad movie. It had a lot of interesting concepts, was visually compelling, but overall it was bad. I put it behind Aliens 3 even. What the fuck?
Such a sad ending to the series.
Um, pretty sure she hears a screeching sound. Might be wrong.
it's not surprising she'd forget about the squid after all that happened. Plus, she probs thought it was still frozen.
I am among the biggest Alien and Aliens fan. TO the point that I wrote a prequal sequal to the series.
What themes did your fanfic center around?
Maybe he's Jon Spaihts!?!
Whoever gets to write the sequel (if there's one, of course, and I hope not) has all my sympathy...You know, I want a sequel because I want answers, but I can't for the life of me think of a sequel to this that wouldn't be a terrible movie.
You know, I want a sequel because I want answers, but I can't for the life of me think of a sequel to this that wouldn't be a terrible movie.
Last week, it kinda sounded like he was going back to TV shows (not that I'd want him there either), but then I heard he was working on World War Z, so cinema isn't quite safe yet...Pray they don't ask Lindelof back then.
Last week, it kinda sounded like he was going back to TV shows (not that I'd want him there either), but then I heard he was working on World War Z, so cinema isn't quite safe yet...
You know, I want a sequel because I want answers, but I can't for the life of me think of a sequel to this that wouldn't be a terrible movie.
Yeah, script in that is entirely inconsequential. Just give us some fun performances and fun direction.Oh, right.
Keep forgetting about that one, probably because I don't expect much of the script anyway, after the previous movie.
Yes, pretty much. It probably helps that I never was a Star Trek fan, but I can see myself be entertained by that one.Yeah, script in that is entirely inconsequential. Just give us some fun performances and fun direction.
The Fantastic Space Adventures of Noomi and The Head
The Fantastic Space Adventures of Noomi and The Head
I still stand by the 'opposing factions of engineers theory as a possibility.
The Fantastic Space Adventures of Noomi and The Head
I liked this film when I came out of the cinema.
96 pages later.... not so much.
Not me any more. All the Jesus talk has annoyed the shit out of me. I was perfectly happy just trying to work out the goo -> xenomorph cycle, but now it just doesn't matter.You need to mature a little to be able to handle the internetz!
I was in the same boat padawan, but now?
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