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[An-Det]

I expect Ponder to go in Type 2. It smooths the blue way too well for the format.

Legacy shouldn't have any changes, but I wouldnt be surprised if they jump the gun on Griselbrand. If the format doesnt adapt, kill it in 3 months, but it's barely had the time to fight back. Show and Tell will get axed eventually, but it's fine right now, and it wouldnt do enough to stop reanimator->griselbrand to be relevant.

 

[The Technomancer]

Wow, they must be getting hammered, this is the first time I ever remember not being able to access the site

 

[An-Det]

Announcement Date: June 20, 2012
Effective Date: July 1, 2012

Standard, Extended, Modern, Vintage
No changes

Legacy
Land Tax is Unbanned.

Fuck yes! I've been wanting it to be unbanned for fucking years.

 

[The Technomancer]

Wow, no changes. Kind of surprised actually.

 

[Hero]

Land Tax is unbanned? I'm okay with this! Needed to happen a while ago. Next Black Vise please.

 

[OnPoint]

No bans.

Land Tax unbanned in Legacy.

So let down.

 

[OnPoint]

There was a lot of talk of him being stupidly OP in Legacy.

And then last weekend SCG had a Legacy open without a single Griselbrand in the top 8.

By the way, that stream was my first time seeing a legacy Elf deck in action. I think I fell in love...

He dominated the week before though.

 

[Sinatar]

Ok this is kind of... odd?

http://community.wizards.com/magiconline/blog/2012/06/19/magic_online_banned_announcement

So in magic online Griselbrand and Sundering Titan are banned in commander but not in Paper Magic?

Wut? I mean I won't touch commander with a 10 foot pole but I'm curious as to why they'd do this?

 

[bigkrev]

Ok this is kind of... odd?

http://community.wizards.com/magiconline/blog/2012/06/19/magic_online_banned_announcement

So in magic online Griselbrand and Sundering Titan are banned in commander but not in Paper Magic?

Wut? I mean I won't touch commander with a 10 foot pole but I'm curious as to why they'd do this?

Banned in paper EDH as well- http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/commander/24321_Nath_Of_The_GiltLeaf.html

Sheldon explains why in his article

 

[siddx]

Glad they didn't ban show and tell, I'm enjoying seeing my two copies jump up in price recently.

 

[kirblar]

Banned in paper EDH as well- http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/commander/24321_Nath_Of_The_GiltLeaf.html

Sheldon explains why in his article

When you start at 40 life, Gristlebrand's ability is a big problem.

 

[narcosis219]

When you start at 40 life, Gristlebrand's ability is a big problem.

Yep, and you get a refund and then some because of the lifelink.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

No bans? Really? Clearly they think that rotation will solve the problem and they're willing to wait.

On the other hand, Snapcaster jumped by about $1.65 on MTGO, so, go me I guess.

 

[zethren]

No bans just means I can continue playing my green deck as is for a little while longer.

Though I like a good handful of the new green cards, so I'll probably be making edits anyway.

Btw: Thoughts on Roaring Primadox?

I can think of a few creatures that I'd like to return to my hand and put back down, not to mention a few of the newly previewed cards as well. I dunno, could be fun.

 

[narcosis219]

No bans just means I can continue playing my green deck as is for a little while longer.

Though I like a good handful of the new green cards, so I'll probably be making edits anyway.

Btw: Thoughts on Roaring Primadox?

I can think of a few creatures that I'd like to return to my hand and put back down, not to mention a few of the newly previewed cards as well. I dunno, could be fun.

Green's version of flicker, pretty much.

Paired with Strangleroot Geist is pretty sick

 

[Haly]

Eeeeeeeh. I dunno. Maybe if they reprinted Eternal Witness?

Would work well with Thragtuks if you want to do monogreen lifegain shenanigans.

 

[zethren]

Yeah, I was thinking about him and thragtusk in a mono green version of my current RG deck once Primeval Titan and sad robot rotate. Deck will be less about ramp and more about creatures at that point, I guess.
Would like to squeeze Yeva in there for some testing too. Dropping creatures at the end of your opponent's turn every turn sounds too great.

I think I'm most excited about Odric for M13, though. Innistrad block made me a Human creature junkie lol

 

[Haly]

One thing's for sure though, that's not a card you just play willy nilly. You'll have to build your deck around him.

Maybe G/W flicker?

 

[zethren]

One thing's for sure though, that's not a card you just play willy nilly. You'll have to build your deck around him.

Maybe G/W flicker?

Yeah, would be great if I could snag a few more Restoration Angels and at least one more Sigarda. Damn those expensive angels. Had a promo restoration angel too from an FNM, but gave it away as a gift ;P

Gonna throw some ideas together tomorrow morning I think. Was really wanting to do a naya deck of some kind, around Gisela. GW might just be the way to go though.

 

[Haly]

Oh oh, Stonehorn Dignitary!

At least for a few months before it rotates.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Magmaquake (XRR) Instant - Rare
Magmaquake deals X damage to each creature without flying and each Planeswalker.

Veilborn Ghoul (4B) Creature - Uncommon
4/1 Cannot Block
Whenever a Swamp enters the battlefield under your control, return from the graveyard to your hand.

 

[y2dvd]

Oh oh, Stonehorn Dignitary!

At least for a few months before it rotates.

Stonehorn Dignitary is absolutely hysterical in my W/U flicker deck. I don't have any Restoration Angels *cough WanderingWind cough*, but Nephalia Smuggler being able to constantly flicker Stonehorn is too funny. Add in Venser and you got constant lockdown. I hope to pull some Thragtusk, then I'd splash some green in there.

 

[OnPoint]

Magmaquake (XRR) Instant - Rare
Magmaquake deals X damage to each creature without flying and each Planeswalker.

Veilborn Ghoul (4B) Creature - Uncommon
4/1 Cannot Block
Whenever a Swamp enters the battlefield under your control, return from the graveyard to your hand.

I like both of these. Magmaquake is a fairly balanced sweeper. Veilborn Ghoul (obviously, look at the name) has a ton of synergy with the new Liliana.

Still mad at the lack of bans. I really thought Snapcaster was gonna get the hammer.

 

[Keru_Shiri]

Magmaquake (XRR) Instant - Rare
Magmaquake deals X damage to each creature without flying and each Planeswalker.

Nice, but I still miss Pyroclasm. C'mon, give Red something to deal with spirit tokens when Whipflare rotates!

Veilborn Ghoul (4B) Creature - Uncommon
4/1 Cannot Block
Whenever a Swamp enters the battlefield under your control, return from the graveyard to your hand.

Too bad you can't have both Lilianas out at once. This works beautiful with both of her +1s.

 

[Little Old Man]

Going to use the promotion card from DOTP13 as an excuse to visit the gaming store near me. I just hope they have some left, and I don't get tempted to buy some boosters!

 

[OneEightZero]

The iPad version of DotP is amazing.

They have it up for free with an IAP of $9.99. Pretty good strategy on their part.

 

[thefil]

The iPad version of DotP is amazing.

They have it up for free with an IAP of $9.99. Pretty good strategy on their part.

Yup. It runs really well on iPad 3.

 

[echoshifting]

Oh, I've been dying for some kind of green flicker. That's close enough...I'll take it. I'm thinking G/B but I have to fiddle with it a bit.

 

[zethren]

Oh, I've been dying for some kind of green flicker. That's close enough...I'll take it. I'm thinking G/B but I have to fiddle with it a bit.

Oh man, flickering Skinrender. Do it.

 

[OneEightZero]

Yup. It runs really well on iPad 3.

It runs well on the iPad 1.

 

[Takuan]

Will download tonight and give it a spin. Maybe my GF will be more compelled to learn the game via iPad app than going with the paper form.

 

[OneEightZero]

Will download tonight and give it a spin. Maybe my GF will be more compelled to learn the game via iPad app than going with the paper form.

It has a great tutorial that's included in the free version.

 

[Takuan]

It has a great tutorial that's included in the free version.

Yeah, well, I left one of those fold-out Magic quickstart thingies that come with sealed product by her bed and it just sat there, collecting dust. :lol

I imagine the DotP icon will share a similar fate.

 

[siddx]

Been playing dotp2013 all day, really does run great on ipad, although it took me a while to figure out some of the swipe controls. I also have to say that the equipment that gives a creature vigilance and +1/+1 if it's white is pretty damn nasty. Considering how many white creatures have first strike, it's very easy to have a giant first strike vigilance creature quickly.

And I had forgotten how much I love fog bank.

Oh and the encounters are very cool. Nice addition.

 

[bigkrev]

Anyone else get free stuff on their MODO account? I got The Slivers and Burn premium decks, an Alara Foil pack, and a Unhinged Swamp. Some people on twitter are getting Graveborn as well. They said an article explaining the free stuff goes up tonight, but it's pretty cool regardless

 

[Blu10]

Just got the planswalker game for the 360, and I don't play the real card game... anyone want my code for the prymordal hydra card?

 

[Dreamland Boy]

I'd take it if you really don't want it.

 

[Blu10]

I'd take it if you really don't want it.

PM sent

 

[echoshifting]

Can't decide if I want the Steam or the iPad version of DotP...agh. >.< I just assumed the iOS version would be terrible, making it an easy choice.

 

[zethren]

So anyone heard if Nature's Lore is getting printed in M13?

Cus I really hope it is. :/

 

[echoshifting]

That card would be crazy powerful with the shocklands floating around. Sounds like a long shot but I sure as hell wouldn't mind seeing it!

 

[zethren]

That card would be crazy powerful with the shocklands floating around. Sounds like a long shot but I sure as hell wouldn't mind seeing it!

Dammit, I actually don't want them to reprint the shocklands just so I could have fun with Nature's Lore! lol

Beautiful art, great effect, is green, me wants.

 

[f0rk]

Dammit, I actually don't want them to reprint the shocklands just so I could have fun with Nature's Lore! lol

Beautiful art, great effect, is green, me wants.

I think it's too much better than Rampant Growth for them to reprint it.

 

[number47]

what if i just suspend a card before playing it. will the suspended card get exiled too?

 

[zethren]

I think it's too much better than Rampant Growth for them to reprint it.

I know, that's why i want it so bad. haha

Plus I love Terese Nielson.

 

[Hero]

So anyone heard if Nature's Lore is getting printed in M13?

Cus I really hope it is. :/

Nope. The ramp spell for m13 is 'Farseek' and lets you seek out a Swamp, Plains, Mountain or Island and put it into play tapped.

 

[echoshifting]

what if i just suspend a card before playing it. will the suspended card get exiled too?

Nope, suspended cards are technically already exiled. It wouldn't be affected.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

I still think we won't see the shocklands until the Ravnica block. Wizards is going to want to sell as many packs of that set as possible.

 

[zethren]

Nope. The ramp spell for m13 is 'Farseek' and lets you seek out a Swamp, Plains, Mountain or Island and put it into play tapped.

That's extremely lame. lol

Since they have that spell, which counts for everything EXCEPT Forests, couldn't they have also printed Nature's Lore which is specifically for Forests?

Are they even reprinting Rampant Growth? This Green Mage is suddenly getting a bit frustrated.

I still think we won't see the shocklands until the Ravnica block. Wizards is going to want to sell as many packs of that set as possible.

Niv Mizzet printed as a UR Planeswalker. Will sell boxes.

 

[The Technomancer]

Niv Mizzet printed as a UR Planeswalker. Will sell boxes.

Unfortunately there's almost no chance, there's another Izzet character all but confirmed to be a Planeswalker