Wkd BO 06•29-07•01•12 - Seth MacFarlane successfully cracks box office... be afraid

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djplaeskool said:
Yeah, so Moonrise Kingdom is phenomenal.
I don't think a smile left my face the entire film.
Start to finish, great cinema.
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I caught Moonrise Kingdom on Thursday night.

While it boasted a lot of that trademark Wes Anderson quirkiness (when EVERYONE in the movie is quirky nobody really stands out) and I wasn't especially enamored by the performances (apart from Willis oddly enough - best scene was Sharp having a man-to-man chat with Jared Gilman's Sam while pouring him beers), it deserves some success due to simply being unique and original in a marketplace full of retreads & sequels.

The one dynamic of the movie that really made an impression is that all of the kids in the film were resolute in their decision-making with absolute certainty. Even the supporting cast. Fiercely confident in anything they set out to do without wavering one iota. Whereas all of the adult characters were conflicted, battling inner demons and not sure of themselves at all (with the notable exception of Anderson film mainstay, Jason Schwartzman - who seemed to be playing an overgrown kid himself).
 
Ridley327 said:
The Five-Year Engagment was expensive? Just how expensive are we talking about?
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It's not that it was expensive to produce (which it wasn't for an Apatow movie starring Segal/Blunt) it's just made no money what so ever.

So a $30/40m budget (which is very reasonable) and then another $30/40m for P&A (again very reasonable) is an investment of $60-80m

The film made $40m....., WORLDWIDE.

So that's a potential write down of $$40/60m. Don't get me wrong. If these films hit then they are gold mines. Just look at the likes of Knocked Up. But when they belly flop at the box office they still lose tons of cash.

Yikes. No wonder Comcast apparently
hates
the film division.

bigtroyjon said:
Summed up your entire post in 8 words for everyone.
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At no point did I ever claim to have hard facts and figures in front of me. I feel I've been very transparent about that.

If you have a counter point I'd love to hear it.
Speedymanic said:
Snow White sequel?
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Universal hired David Koepp (Jurassic Park writer IIRC) to pen a script for a sequel. A very expensive move for a very expensive writer.

But this sort of thing isn't unusual. IIRC there is a script for Green Lantern 2 gathering dust on a shelf on the WB studio lot somewhere.
 
Ridley327 said:
The Five-Year Engagment was expensive? Just how expensive are we talking about?
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I think it has more to do with the film making no money rather than being overly expensive. BOM has the budget at $30. Marketing will at least double that. The film made $28M domestically and next to nothing worldwide.

EDIT: What Busty said.


So the July monthly record is $1.27B in 2008. I think this month will easily set a new record. That will help make up for the fact that we had the weakest June Box Office since 2003.
 
kswiston said:
I think it has more to do with the film making no money rather than being overly expensive. BOM has the budget at $30. Marketing will at least double that. The film made $28M domestically and next to nothing worldwide.

EDIT: What Busty said.
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Ah, I see. Even still, I'm surprised it cost that much in the first place. It didn't feature the most exotic locations on the planet, if you know what I mean.
 
Vyer said:
I don't watch Family Guy, and I haven't seen Ted, but it amuses me to see how much Ted/McFarlane success frustrates the haters.
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McFarlene to out gross the Simpson movie & all of Trey Parker and Matt Stone shitty movies combined?
There is a God!
 
Ridley327 said:
Ah, I see. Even still, I'm surprised it cost that much in the first place. It didn't feature the most exotic locations on the planet, if you know what I mean.
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Look at the budgets for Adam Sandler movies.


See You Next Wednesday said:
McFarlene to out gross the Simpson movie & all of Trey Parker and Matt Stone shitty movies combined?
There is a God!
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That's nowhere near guaranteed. At least not from Ted. Simpsons movie opened to $74M and grossed $183M. South Park guys' movies made about $85M combined.
 
Universal knows that the box office king is Spielberg, that's why they put out shit before 'Lincoln' hits and puts the box in box office.

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hehe.
 
I wonder how many parents took their kids to see Ted. After seeing them take them to movies like Watchmen, I think parents really have no idea what movie ratings are supposed to mean.
 
Jacob said:
Where are those figures coming from? BOM stats are totally different both unadjusted and adjusted for inflation. Is there are another site with significantly different figures?

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/biggestmonths.htm?page=7&p=.htm
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Weird.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/monthly/?view=releasedate&chart=bymonth&month=7&view=releasedate

EDIT: I think the chart I was looking at was only for July releases. So ya, you are correct


bigtroyjon said:
Your link is movies that released in July, not the Box Office take in July.
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Ya, looked at the wrong chart. July could still set the record. Depends on how much TDKR can make in 2 weeks and how well Amazing Spider-man does.
 
Willy105 said:
I wonder how many parents took their kids to see Ted. After seeing them take them to movies like Watchmen, I think parents really have no idea what movie ratings are supposed to mean.
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I saw a bunch of kids in my screening, had to all be under the age of 10. Couldn't believe they stayed for the whole thing...
 
I saw Magic Mike. I found it pretty funny, but I went in with low expectations. I was the only dude in the theatre. You see Olivia Munns boobs in the first 5 minutes.

Also, Kevin Nash is a terrible dancer. They seem to always put him in back in the dance scenes so you never see him.
 
Good Job Bob said:
It's best to take anything Busty says with a grain of salt.
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bigtroyjon said:
Sorry, but Busty's opinion on what Universal should consider a home run is not Universal's expectations for the movie or the baseline level for what should be a bomb or not.
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Damn, i thought he has read about solid figures somewhere.
Busty said:
Yup. Though I have no contact with anyone at the studio or the production which can verify that figure I stand by what I said. $400m WW gross for a film of that size is solid but it isn't great.

And even $400m wouldn't represent a break even figure for the studio including P&A costs. So while they could crawl into profit with home video etc it still doesn't bode well for what was supposed to a franchise starter.



Don't blame me..., blame MATHEMATICS!!!!

A budget of $175m plus a worldwide P&A (prints and advertising) cost of at least $100m represents an investment of $275m. So even a WW gross of $400m (with roughly $200m going to the studio) would still result in a loss of $75m.

In time the studio can crawl into profit given when the ancillary markets are taken into account but how long will that take and it wouldn't exactly inspire confidence in a sequel.

This is all very sketchy I grant you (50/50 for the theatrical split is a 'thumbnail' figure) but it is none the less representative of the sort of figures that are associated with big summer movies like this.

Espeically when Universal's owners Comcast talked about how 'unfortunate' it was that Five Year Engagement lost (a projected/rumoured) $50-60m+ on it's theatrical run.



http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/com...edoed-by-battleship-and-five-year-engagement/

Do Comcast seem like the kind of cats that would be prepared to take a $75m loss on the chin and keep on trucking with a Snow White sequel regardless?!
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Aw man, you were guessing. I thought you had some solid facts :(
 
Ted was awesome. I don't watch family guy or know much of Seth McFarlane some don't really care one way or the other. However, the movie was awesome. Loved the crude humor from start to finish. Would be terrible if it was pg-13.
 
DrForester said:
Yeah, this film about a drunken teddy bear is nothing like that comic with the drunken teddy bear. It's all just ripping off Pinocchio.

Really, that's what you're going with?
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I'm going with the theory that Seth McFarlane doesn't have any idea what the fuck that comic is.
 
had moderate interest in TED only because of American Dad.

Had 0 interest in Magic Mike until Kevin Nash. Not gonna contribute at the box office by any means but I'll probably vudu it at some point in the future.
 
My girl told me that it had the worst acting and story she's ever seen but there was abs, penises, and asses aplenty so she didn't care. Talking about Magic Mike of course.

Also, LOLOLOL at the guy who said a movie not meeting a studio's expectations = bomb. A bomb is a movie that doesn't even come close to recouping its budget and loses a ton of movie. What you described is a movie underperforming at worst.
 
Chris25 said:
My girl told me that it had the worst acting and story she's ever seen but there was abs, penises, and asses aplenty so she didn't care. Talking about Magic Mike of course.
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What? The acting was awesome all-around. The story was loose, but it's a Soderbergh, so that shouldn't be unexpected.

There's certainly nothing wrong with the movie technically. Everything is professional as hell, the cinematography is amazing, the dialogue is some of the most natural I've heard in a movie, and it's a fun journey.

It's also hilarious to hear women's reactions in the theater. It's definitely a movie they enjoy. hahaha
 
I found Ted to be pretty funny. That's two comedies I didn't expect being that good this year, both being this and 21 Jump Street. I wonder if The Watch will continue that trend. Looks like it could be decent.
 
Log4Girlz said:
Magic Mike was ridiculous on Friday at my location.

Thank you Magic Mike, thank you for bringing in the fucking smoking hot babes to go watch you.
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I was unlucky I guess.

The line for MM at the theater I was at (to watch Ted) was full of the type of woman I would expect to see at a movie about male strippers, i.e. disgusting whales and the sort.

According to my sister the line for the movie at the theater she was at was full of woman dressed like they were going out to a club which she found hilarious.

Anyway, both Ted and Magic Mike were selling out showings during the weekend, especially Ted.
 
It is amazing that Seth had a good concept for about 3 seasons and he managed to spin that into like 20 seasons of shitty family guy, an actual good show in American Dad (which I hear he doesn't do anything with -- thank god), a horrid abortion of Cleveland Show and now this.

I may hate the dude's personality, ego and humor but that dude is rolling in it. He's doing something much, much better than me thats for damn sure.
 
Vyer said:
I don't watch Family Guy, and I haven't seen Ted, but it amuses me to see how much Ted/McFarlane success frustrates the haters.


also, dat Magic Mike budget. Releasing that in the 50 Shades of Grey era was also a goldmine.
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yea, I don't get the Seth hate. Ted was funny.
 
superpickleman said:
I was unlucky I guess.

The line for MM at the theater I was at (to watch Ted) was full of the type of woman I would expect to see at a movie about male strippers, i.e. disgusting whales and the sort.

According to my sister the line for the movie at the theater she was at was full of woman dressed like they were going out to a club which she found hilarious.

Anyway, both Ted and Magic Mike were selling out showings during the weekend, especially Ted.
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Not to mention all the facebook pictures of them in the waiting for the movie to start and their status saying I'm Team Channing, I told them they should be on Team Big Sexy
 
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