I know he died, but didn't know he was Bill Paxton's dad. He still sucked in the movie, regardless.
BTW regarding a Director's Cut of ASM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...director-mark-webb-lizard-peter-parker-345053
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BTW regarding a Director's Cut of ASM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...director-mark-webb-lizard-peter-parker-345053
what the actual FUCK
I prefer even X-Men 3 to Spidey 3. It's probably better than... Origins: Wolverine. That's it. I didn't hype Origins to high heaven like Spidey 3, though.
He tried too hard to be funny.
I thought this was pretty good. It had some definite pacing issues towards the beginning/middle but it was really fun once it got going. I'd like to see Sony pony up and offer Garfield's Spidey at least a cameo in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Please?
Andy? Nah, his comedic timing was pretty great actually. He finally got us the wisecracking Spidey we needed.
Andy? Nah, his comedic timing was pretty great actually. He finally got us the wisecracking Spidey we needed.
Spidey 3 was such a let down. Its the only movie that I was actually entering into a state of denial while watching it. I kept telling myself that it was going to get better and it didnt. And for 2 hours I just sat there and watched Tobeys face and dancing and best friend speeches. And then I went home I cried.
The best thing to come from Spidey 3 are all of the gifs making fun of it. And James Francos "so good".
To Far Away Times
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ASM was pretty good. Maybe not as good as Spiderman 2, but better than the other ones. The lead actor and actress are way better in this one though.
Lol that you thought it was worth even commenting onjust shows that you are picking the absolute most minor of nits.
fucking fireworks show cancelled, wonderful. guess i'm drinking largely alone tonight, since my friends have other plans :<
I commented on it because it was an extremely obvious moment of internal inconsistency with the movie's logic. I thought it would illustrate my point well. However, yes, I do notice things like that - all the time. It is the job of the movie creators to ensure that the package is as consistent with its rules as possible. Now I realize that all movies have little 'oops' moments like this, so as I said, it's not a big deal to me - the movie has FAR larger problems than a magical blanket. But to try, as you are clearly implying, to throw out all standards and observational talents because you might think you're 'pickin' nits' is ridiculous. YOU can go through life ignoring such obvious problems... I just won't. I have my mind for a reason and I intend to use it to full capacity.
I commented on it because it was an extremely obvious moment of internal inconsistency with the movie's logic. I thought it would illustrate my point well. However, yes, I do notice things like that - all the time. It is the job of the movie creators to ensure that the package is as consistent with its rules as possible. Now I realize that all movies have little 'oops' moments like this, so as I said, it's not a big deal to me - the movie has FAR larger problems than a magical blanket. But to try, as you are clearly implying, to throw out all standards and observational talents because you might think you're 'pickin' nits' is ridiculous. YOU can go through life ignoring such obvious problems... I just won't. I have my mind for a reason and I intend to use it to full capacity.
Peter IS still in high school ya know and he's in love. I don't begrudge him not living up to a dying man's wish.
Just got back from seeing this and I fucking loved it.
Tobey came off awkward when he tried to portray Parker's awkwardness.
Garfield nailed Parker's awkwardness and made him likeable. Thats the whole point of Spidey, to me.
I predict Gwen dies in the next one and the third will introduce MJ and Venom.
Tobey came off awkward when he tried to portray Parker's awkwardness.
Garfield nailed Parker's awkwardness and made him likeable. Thats the whole point of Spidey, to me.
I predict Gwen dies in the next one and the third will introduce MJ and Venom.
Sounds like you enjoy hyper-analyzing your way out of having fun. This observation is a total non issue and is the very definition of nitpicking
I have fun in tons of movies, all the time. I own thousands of films. It's one of my favorite hobbies. Having actual standards != limiting fun
This is the typical way of avoiding actual discussion on things - individuals call it nitpicking, dismiss criticisms in one way or the other, instead of just addressing the point.
The POINT was that the blanket scene was a moment of internal inconsistency with the films logic. The scene itself is no big deal, at all. It was simply used as an obvious example to illustrate something that IS actually a problem - that of films violating the rules it creates. Instead of addressing the point, since that's beyond you, you decide to throw your arms up and flail about how 'nitpicky' it is to mention the blanket. The BLANKET isn't the point!
If you don't want to participate in actual discussion, I don't begrudge you that. But don't waste time with garbage bin level comments. I'm sure you're better than that.
SilentProtagonist
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Man, he pointed out a goof in the film in like one line of a post. Let it go.
MidnightCowboy
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Wolverine has a special place in my heart. I admit, it's probably terrible, but it's definitely one of my favorite movies of all time.
Escape Goat
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The more I think about it the more I just find the film as simply passable. I'd liken it more to Thor than any of the other Marvel movies. It has some good elements (more good than bad) but its prevented from ever taking flight.
In the sequel I'd like to see Spider Man actually present a serious threat to his nemesis. Most of the time Spidey was staving instead of actually engaging in combat. Lizard posed a serious physical threat as we see him being slightly stronger than Peter, even going so far as to get Peter on the ropes at every encounter.
In the sequel I'd like to see Spider Man actually present a serious threat to his nemesis. Most of the time Spidey was staving instead of actually engaging in combat. Lizard posed a serious physical threat as we see him being slightly stronger than Peter, even going so far as to get Peter on the ropes at every encounter.
Are we talking about the same movie here? 0_o
MidnightCowboy
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Yeah, I know, but I can honestly say I walked out of the theater thinking only one thing: "that was fucking awesome" and it's stuck ever since.
BertramCooper
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Assuming a sequel gets made, and assuming
, the next film could really pack an emotional wallop.
So in spite of ASM being pretty underwhelming, there's some real potential for a quality series.
Gwen meets an untimely end
So in spite of ASM being pretty underwhelming, there's some real potential for a quality series.
I put off seeing Hellboy II for a while too, then I saw it on TV, I think, and really dug it. Both of the Hellboy are probably some of the best comic book movies imo.
And this IS a movie that should have a satisfying conclusion with a character who grows up.
Breaking that wish sort of destroys the character development thus far. It's a shitty decision to end the movie there. Very unheroic.
ThatObviousUser
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Pretty much how I felt after having seen the movie today. Quite enjoyed it.
TrumanBurbank
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I loved Spiderman 1/2 and hated 3. This movie would be up there with 1/2 IMO.
I thought Andrew Garfield was incredible. That dude can really act. Some cheesy moments where I was rolling my eyes but Spiderman 1/2 has those as well.
I also found myself tearing up a lot more than I expected. Spiderman just seemed to be going through so much. One death after another....
I thought Andrew Garfield was incredible. That dude can really act. Some cheesy moments where I was rolling my eyes but Spiderman 1/2 has those as well.
I also found myself tearing up a lot more than I expected. Spiderman just seemed to be going through so much. One death after another....
TrumanBurbank
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What was funnier to me was Emma Stone's dresses in school and at Oscorp. Way too slutty...
Not that I was complaining.
This. Andrew Garfield is way too attractive and was cool as fuck looking. Please, this guy is going to be an outcast, bullied, and on the sidelines when it comes to women?
I know. Basically, he is extremely handsome, super nice, and a fucking genius. In the real world, he should have the entire female student body trying to get a piece of him.
Andrew Garfield is freakin' perfect for this role. Even Tobey was so it was huge shoes to fill.
But..Dunst > Emma Stone. That kiss cannot be ever replicated in any other spiderman movie in the future. Also the whole Peter Parker transition felt rushed in the first half, I felt it was shown in a much more genuine manner in Raimi's Spiderman. Other than that in-costume, Garfield was brilliant.
Waiting for that sequel. And they better fucking get to Carnage and Venom before they decide to reboot it again.
But..Dunst > Emma Stone. That kiss cannot be ever replicated in any other spiderman movie in the future. Also the whole Peter Parker transition felt rushed in the first half, I felt it was shown in a much more genuine manner in Raimi's Spiderman. Other than that in-costume, Garfield was brilliant.
Waiting for that sequel. And they better fucking get to Carnage and Venom before they decide to reboot it again.
Shining Sunshine
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It would be funny if MJ was just Emma Stone with red hair.
It'd be better if they introduced MJ next movie IMO, maybe as a minor roll, just to establish her.
The Outsider
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Posting my thoughts on the movie. Mostly copy-pasted from a conversation I had with my brother. Jumps around quite a bit because I was answering questions. Spoilerific, so stay away if you haven't seen!
Very much looking forward to a sequel, although Orci/Kurtzman and potential lack of Webb is far from comforting.
I liked it. Definitely going to see again when I get a chance. I think that the basketball and subway scenes were meh, but they're better than catching MJ's lunch with spider powers. Coldplay during the skateboarding scene was ugh, especially since I kinda liked how he was learning his powers during that scene. I'd say a 7 or so if I had to assign a score. Cast is so much better than the Raimi cast, so that's helpful. I don't remember a single thing from the score aside from the piano during the Gwen/Lizard Oscorp scene. Raimi Elfman score is way better than this one's.
3D was fine, but I didn't pay to see the movie. Wasn't as good as I hoped, even though it was filmed in 3D. Prometheus did it much better. Almost positive it's Norman Osborn at the end. Scene was very vague though, definitely didn't tell you anything. I'm hoping they use GG in 2 and have Gwen die. Otherwise Parker breaking Cpt. Stacy's promise doesn't have the consequences they very obviously foreshadowed. JJJ has to be a lock for the sequel. Daily Bugle nod was nice, and they hinted at it with Spidey setting up the camera in the sewers, although it cost him his secret identity.
Lizard design sucks, but didn't bother me as much as it did initially. I've probably gotten used to it. No worse than Power Ranger Goblin. Mostly the face that bothers me. CG-wise, he looked fine. Full Lizard (with snout!) would've been awesome though. I think they really missed the point of the Lizard's character though by not introducing the Connors family. Connors is a good guy, the Lizard is the one that's crazy and wants to make everyone Lizard-men. It's sort of hinted at in the movie with the hearing voices part, but I think having Connors turning into Lizard randomly instead of purposely makes him a much more appealing and dangerous character. I loved Connors in the first half, and I didn't have a problem necessarily with the Lizard, but yeah, little bit of a missed opportunity. They cast someone to play his son, so obviously some aspects got cut.
Didn't mind the POV. Looked neat in 3D, I thought. Glad it wasn't a full sequence though. Uncle Ben... I thought Sheen was pretty good in the role. Emma Stone is ridiculously hot, and I applaud the decision to always make her wear a skirt and boots. Spidey swinging was incredible. Puts the shitty Raimi CG to shame. The way Spidey moved in general was just incredible. The whole bit with him wrapping up Lizard with webbing at the high school was awesome. So was the spinning the web in the sewers. Movie was clearly missing 20 minutes or so. The "untold story" was obviously cut from either studio interference or to add some mystery to the sequel. The mid-credits scene hints at it still being in play, but his parents leaving is pretty much glossed over after the first thirty minutes. Lines from the trailer "You really think you know what you are?" and "If you want the truth Peter, come and get it" totally gone.
3D was fine, but I didn't pay to see the movie. Wasn't as good as I hoped, even though it was filmed in 3D. Prometheus did it much better. Almost positive it's Norman Osborn at the end. Scene was very vague though, definitely didn't tell you anything. I'm hoping they use GG in 2 and have Gwen die. Otherwise Parker breaking Cpt. Stacy's promise doesn't have the consequences they very obviously foreshadowed. JJJ has to be a lock for the sequel. Daily Bugle nod was nice, and they hinted at it with Spidey setting up the camera in the sewers, although it cost him his secret identity.
Lizard design sucks, but didn't bother me as much as it did initially. I've probably gotten used to it. No worse than Power Ranger Goblin. Mostly the face that bothers me. CG-wise, he looked fine. Full Lizard (with snout!) would've been awesome though. I think they really missed the point of the Lizard's character though by not introducing the Connors family. Connors is a good guy, the Lizard is the one that's crazy and wants to make everyone Lizard-men. It's sort of hinted at in the movie with the hearing voices part, but I think having Connors turning into Lizard randomly instead of purposely makes him a much more appealing and dangerous character. I loved Connors in the first half, and I didn't have a problem necessarily with the Lizard, but yeah, little bit of a missed opportunity. They cast someone to play his son, so obviously some aspects got cut.
Didn't mind the POV. Looked neat in 3D, I thought. Glad it wasn't a full sequence though. Uncle Ben... I thought Sheen was pretty good in the role. Emma Stone is ridiculously hot, and I applaud the decision to always make her wear a skirt and boots. Spidey swinging was incredible. Puts the shitty Raimi CG to shame. The way Spidey moved in general was just incredible. The whole bit with him wrapping up Lizard with webbing at the high school was awesome. So was the spinning the web in the sewers. Movie was clearly missing 20 minutes or so. The "untold story" was obviously cut from either studio interference or to add some mystery to the sequel. The mid-credits scene hints at it still being in play, but his parents leaving is pretty much glossed over after the first thirty minutes. Lines from the trailer "You really think you know what you are?" and "If you want the truth Peter, come and get it" totally gone.
Very much looking forward to a sequel, although Orci/Kurtzman and potential lack of Webb is far from comforting.
lol I noticed this too. His performance is great, but way too cool for a guy that's supposed to be a nerd and bullied. My girlfriend didn't complain, though.
I think the movie makers realized that. And that's why Garfield's Peter Parker would have gotten Gwen without the spider bite too. At least the way they showed it in this movie. He just couldn't fight but he wasn't as much of a beta (for the lack of a better word) as Tobey's Peter Parker was. He was more confident overall.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I forgot about the hilarious body double when Peter is all fucked up. The pointless up close shot of his chest (without seeing his face of course) and he is suddenly chizzled out of stone was pretty awesomely hilarious.
I don't really understand your issue here. Lizard ran off while Spider-man went to go save the kid. It wasn't a 1:1 magical teleportation from him taking off to being in the sewers, is a scene of him grabbing a blanket from somewhere really necessary?
EliteArtist
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Been chatting with some friends about the movie. Apparently, Spidey could have
Even if it failed, it would've been interesting to see on screen.
Speaking of some weird details,
potentially saved Capt. Stacy if he had injected him with the lizard formula, thus giving him some regenerative capabilities. I mentioned that there was the cure in the air, but apparently it has to make contact with the person, so I guess in theory if Spidey had pulled him to an isolated area... the funeral wouldn't have happened. Of course, then we wouldn't get some damned fine acting out of the after funeral scene.
Even if it failed, it would've been interesting to see on screen.
Speaking of some weird details,
Conners turns back from being a lizard on his own. Did it ever show him perfecting the formula for it to last forever? Or is that something I missed in the film. Because he always needed a dose of lizard juice to transform.
EatinOlives
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Came back from watching and I liked it very much. Never cared for either the original Spider-Man 1 or 2 films (never even bothered to see 3), but this one shits all over them IMO. I didn't feel the origin story was bogged down at all. I felt it was just right, considering I felt the time that Raimi spent on the origin part of the story was way too little. This actually had weight to it and spent a good amount of time building on certain aspects of the film, like the
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I loved the cast, especially Garfield. The wise-cracking Spidey bits were spot on, something I felt the older movies never even came close to having. The action was really well done, nothing felt fake or overly choreographed. As for the villain, I think the little arc was fine, though the CG was a bit too...well..., CG. Looked a little plasticy at times even.
But I find the complaining about
to be too nitpicky. Not sure why
A couple of scenes/moments feel flat for me, though:
mechanic webslinging explanation. Where it came from, how it worked, etc.
I loved the cast, especially Garfield. The wise-cracking Spidey bits were spot on, something I felt the older movies never even came close to having. The action was really well done, nothing felt fake or overly choreographed. As for the villain, I think the little arc was fine, though the CG was a bit too...well..., CG. Looked a little plasticy at times even.
But I find the complaining about
what happens to him after injecting the thing
we need to question his motives or reasoning past that point, he obviously goes insane from all the shit happening to him. Either the chemicals themselves caused his completely deranged rambling and logic, or he "naturally" arrived at those conclusions. Think about it. He had been researching this shit his entire life, and was completely distraught when he realized that one lousy equation ruined his life's work. He was also obviously emotionally vested in the project, given his complete lack of arm and how he wanted it back. Finally being able to grow a limb and go off the other deep end right into superhuman strength completely validated everything and he went overboard with spreading this "amazing discovery". Growing a limb back is no small feat, dude pretty much felt like he won the lottery, and you know how people behave when they win the lottery IRL, they do a bunch of irrational shit.
A couple of scenes/moments feel flat for me, though:
First was the subway scene, particularly with the "accidental fighting". I know this scene was mostly supposed to be humorous, but I really didn't like how Peter being bitten automatically grants him amazing fighting powers, so amazing he's doing it reflexively. I understand the big bulky muscles, sticky skin, spidey-sense, but the amazing fighting? I wish that had been something that he worked on, not something magically given to him.
Second one was much smaller, the obvious crane scene that everyone else is ragging about. Hated the "'MURICA" flag shot.
Second one was much smaller, the obvious crane scene that everyone else is ragging about. Hated the "'MURICA" flag shot.
kunonabi
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Gwen(Emma) > Gwen(Howard) > Ursula > a rock > Dunst
Dunst was awful and MJ was just a mess of a character.
EliteArtist
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Anybody else freaked out by
Because I was.
the one mouse eating the other mouse?
Because I was.
TrumanBurbank
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I want to know what happened to it. Freaky as fuck that was.
EliteArtist
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I assume
it's still crawling around in the lab behind glass... And that room probably didn't get a dose of the cure. I assume most of it went outside.
Gwen (Howard) was barely a character.
Backwards Marathon
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After the movie ended it was one of the first things I thought about. Also I love how movies perceive science
Lizard mixing chemicals just laying around in a high school classroom then throwing em at Spidey and exploding :lol
Ninja Scooter
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Just got back from a screening. Liked the movie, better than Raimi's even. A lot of this had to do with Garfield. He was a much better Parker/Spiderman than shitty Maguire. Main beefs were the villain, but this has a lot more to do with Spiderman's rogue gallery sucking when you get to guys like Lizard. His arc was too predicable and boring. Also the developing of the webbing and suit moved by way too fast.
Also, the short scene where Peter is following the two nerds arguing with the tablet...what was that about? I missed it.
Also, the short scene where Peter is following the two nerds arguing with the tablet...what was that about? I missed it.
EliteArtist
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The web cocoon is easily one of the most visually impressive things I've ever seen. I was grinning so wide when I saw that. It was just great.
And Ninja Scooter, the nerds were arguing about momentum with a pendulum. I guess it was important for Peter to know how to webswing, but Pete's supposed to be smart, so i don't know why we needed that.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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Theres nothing worse than a dull movie. Not good, not so bad its good..just a middle of the road piece of dry white toast. I hate movies that waste my time. If its not going to be great or at least good then be Fantastic Four bad, so we can at least find something to laugh at for 90 minutes. Fuck Spider-man.
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