What will next gen graphics look like?
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SniperHunter
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Most PS3 exclusives have really good AA implementation. But yea switching from a game like Killzone 3 to Battlefield 1943 is when the jaggies become apparent. BF1943 just looks like ass....but it's a lot of fun! 
I don't really agree with this, a lot of games are terrible without mods
See: Fallout 3, New Vegas and Skyrim
Regardless, the option to have them is a big plus.
Anyone who thinks the difference is negligible needs to get their eyes checked.
It's okay if you don't care about the difference but to say the difference is negligible is silly.
SniperHunter
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yea I see your point. Desert Combat was too awesome, it was better than BF2 and honestly even BF3. Now Dice doesn't even provide a mod kit anymore....
Last time I installed a mod was for Crysis, the game looks like ass without mods IMO.
SniperHunter
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the difference depends on how much $$$ you have. I have a 5850, it ran Bad Company 2 at max settings with 4XMSAA at 60 FPS. It ran well and it looked beautiful. Then I bought Battlefield 3, the card ran the game but it looked ugly as shit, jaggies everywhere (even worse jaggies on Wake Island compared to BF1943 on my HDTV), I got slow downs, I had to tone down all sorts of settings. So to run BF3 at max I have to buy a $500 GPU...yea no thanks.
Yea man, that 480p SD look adds atmosphere and character!
SniperHunter
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That's all relative to what kind of hardware you have and how far you are sitting from the monitor or tv....
on a computer monitor it's easy to differentiate between the resolutions.
Lactose_Intolerant
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lol
Barack Lesnar
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I think the jump will be huge and that many of the people trying to downplay it have other, fairly obvious, motives in doing so. Same song & dance before every new gen.
Wow, the PC version looks pretty identical to the next-gen Xbox version. Oh, wait...that's an Xbox 360. That old ass hardware handles its own pretty damn well.
imo the x360 version looks better. i think this really proves that anyone who is spending $2000 on a pc to plays games is stupid. consoles are cheaper, have better technology even to this day and have better exclusives.
SniperHunter
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yea Witcher 2 is an awesome game, play it on 360 or PC same game on both....I liked the insane dof in the PC version and the textures!
*slow clap*
Still don't know how you don't get banned. Get a new shtick.
Spazznid
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Lol.
To play BF3 maxed at around 45 fps, I would only spend around $200 or $250 at most. I own a GTX580 which coated $500 when I got it, but now is likely half that price, or will be soon.EDIT:: I'm completely wrong, but a GTX 570 is half the price and very close in performance ::: This card runs BF3 at 1440 maxed. Average of 45-55 fps.
PC as a system can be expensive, but the games are usually much cheaper and the online services(steam) are free. Plus, you get to decide what resolution and settings to play at, rather than having that decided for you. People need to stop arguing over price, get over the fact that over time, you will be spending the same amount on both systems.
This thread is becoming a console vs PC thread and I'm not helping...
As for next Gen, I'd like Last of Us at 1080, please.
Next-gen will most likely far exceed your expectations. I want something on par with the Samaritan demo at launch. It's just UE 3 with DX11 damn it, next-gen consoles should not struggle to produce those graphics out of the box.
Damn, I'd like to be able to troll like Wario without any threat of being banned, as you do
shinobi602
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Spazznid
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Then at least I will be happy. I don't think play console games for visuals, so when one surprises me (Journey, Uncharted, God of War, Halo 4) then it's a good surprise.
Until current Gen consoles get emulated, that's how I'll feel.
SniperHunter
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$250 in America but not in Canada, the GPU prices here are rather inflated (a new 580 is still $400 + http://www.ncix.ca/search/?categoryid=0&q=580) . Also, why would I buy an old card to max out BF3? I'd rather buy a 7970 to future proof my system.
Also these days I like PSN more than Steam. I haven't even touched my Steam account ever since I uninstalled TF2 earlier this year. I mean just this month alone I got: Little Big Planet 2, Pac Man Championship, Renegade Ops, Saints Row 2, Sly Cooper, Virtual Fighter Final Showdown all for free off PSN+ (whichh I bought last year for $50 a year, when RE4 HD was released)
Plus multiplayer gaming is free on PSN, you don't have to spend a dime.
dragonbane
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Hopefully like Beyond Two Souls with real gameplay and 1080p resolution. And better AI please.
Spazznid
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Lol, I'm completely wrong, but edited my post to fix that a bit. I remember the price going down.... still, for bf3 to look worse than on 360, youd need a crappy card.
SniperHunter
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I don't like BF3, I liked Bad Company 2 way more. I thought BC2 was the most fun BF game since Battlefield 1942. I am sure Bad Company 3 will be released for all next gen consoles and PC and everyone will be happy
iamshadowlark
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Jason's Ultimatum
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Can you imagine Uncharted on PS4? Good lord.
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They probably won't be. And the massive decrease in console exclusives make it less appealing to programming hobbyists.
SniperHunter
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I imagine it will look like the first level of Crysis with interactive vegetation and DX11 shaders instead of DX9/10 shaders. I also expect to see a lot of environmental effects added in (like wind or rain) and dynamic cloth physics. Should be a great looking game
This is very simple next to some of the "next-gen" stuff we've already seen.
Lovely Salsa
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Worst comparision ever
There's a much better video on youtube but I'm too lazy to find it now. The game on my pc looks much much better than that
Edit: here's one, by fast youtube search:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znaVLNO9qyQ
ThoseDeafMutes
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The games that blow people away in a given generation often don't hold up so well in the following generation. Splinter Cell and Riddick on XBOX vs their 360 iterations come to mind, as does God of War (still looks great on PS3, but didn't impress me even half as much as it did on PS2). I'm more excited for games I don't know about yet to blow me away, rather than just expecting the same games that are graphical beasts now to continue to be equally beastly next gen.
Paracelsus
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I can imagine it only if it's got levels as big as GTAV.
There's something that you don't read so often in reviews.
And is that the Xbox 360 version has ALOT of loadings (it loads even to go/come back from Arena, Meditation real time showcase has been cutted off and is just a voice in the menu) and geometry modifications in the levels (Flotsam has a brand new big wall at his entrance, some passages on the Castle walls in the Prologue are closed by wood and rocks instead groups of animated soldiers, ecc.).
Aside from the matter of the level of detail (from PR machine was 'suggested' to say that 360 version was like the original at Medium, when the truth is that is a mix of Medium + Low + some stuff beneath Low), actually, a PC and a Xbox 360 are not running the same stuff.
The second one is a collage that mimics somehow the original.
Excellent work, in my opinion, considering the hardware, but is not correct to say that "Xbox 360 is running TW2". Is running an adaptation.
Ah, also DF BS so hard about illumination.
There no way that the one in the Xbox 360 version behaves like this:
http://youtu.be/3VcNiMgQGSo
Is downgraded/cutted off in most of major features (HDR, color space, sunshafts, number and quality of dynamic lights, number and quality of dynamic shadows). They've just changed some colors and reengineered certain algorithms, that in origin still remain ways and ways more complex.
Everyone that has played live both versions, better if side by side, like me, and has a bit of tecnhical competence can match easly that the Xbox 360's illumation feels always less brilliant, flat and undynamic. In a word "unnatural".
GG, Richard Leadbetter.
Lovely Salsa
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Yeah, when it comes to pc gaming, not only do you get to play the games that looks nicer and in 1080p 60 fps but you also get much much better loading times.
Loading times completely killed my experience when I bought Skyrim for 360, going in and out of houses etc
Loading times completely killed my experience when I bought Skyrim for 360, going in and out of houses etc
tkscz
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.... Don't know much about business do you? The GTX580 is still $500 or more, and will continue to be until around 2014, where it will drop to about $350 - $400. The GTX 460 is still worth about $150 - $200 (depends on where you buy it), but according to you, it shouldn't be that much by now.
Sorry, quoted before you fixed. Still, to anyone who actually thinks that way, there you go.
There are a bunch of current HD console games that run at like 540p and 600p and all that. Close enough. At least we'll get a more consistent 720p/30 next gen.
You can do it with $3-350 Canadian.
*sigh* not this shit again
What's wrong with what s/he wants?
lol god rays. Gears 3, Batman AC, Bulletstorm, Red Dead Redemption have god rays. Magic. PC version Witcher 2 is superior to 2005 hardware with 512MB RAM, ATi 1800 GPU and 5400RPM HDD! How does PC keep doing it? It's like one can upgrade the hardware or something.
That DF comparison was pre Enhanced Edition, and the Xbox version included a few lighting tweaks from it (the enhanced edition). I'm sure Leadbetter didn't mean to offend you by commenting on apparent changes or improvements to the look of the game pre-EE.
It's possible to see aesthetic improvement in something even when it's running at lower precision/resolution.
I just got rid of my tube TV that was hooked into my PS3 and I can say with much confidence that you sir, couldn't be more wrong.
Boss Man
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This seems pretty accurate to me.
Um the witcher 2 looks FAR better on PC than on consoles. Dont make me post 2560x1600 screens in here I WILL.
Hahaha.You will see when the PS4 comes out. I'll just say that it won't take till the end of the lifecycle to get games as good looking as Agnis.
Are you serious? Like, you're not a joke character or something? You realize where you're posting, right?I can't be fooled by the looks of a game. Although I'm more like an amateur programmer, I know what's going on behind the scenes in games like this.
PC doubles in performance every 1.5 years.
In 2013, it will have been 2 years since Intel's last release. Ivy Bridge (2012) is mostly just a die shrink of Sandy Bridge (2011). This is Intel's Tick-Tock cycle.
Nvidia is practically sitting on their real high end 2012 card because they're way ahead of AMD right now. There's also yield issues, but it will likely be improved by next year.
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