The Dark Knight Rises |OT| The Legend Ends (Warning: Unmarked Spoilers Within)
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I can't think of a way for Nolan Riddler to work without either copying the Joker or making a smaller, more personal film.
Not that there's anything wrong with a smaller film, but it isn't right for a conclusion. Batman has a lot of toys accumulated over the course of these films; it should make sense that he has a threat sufficient to use them. Bane and his mercs seem well-suited for this purpose.
Not that there's anything wrong with a smaller film, but it isn't right for a conclusion. Batman has a lot of toys accumulated over the course of these films; it should make sense that he has a threat sufficient to use them. Bane and his mercs seem well-suited for this purpose.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Yep. I wasn't a fan of the choice at first, or the look in that first picture. I've grown to love what I've seen so far. He looks like a fucking monster, which I think is awesome.
Shouldn't the term be quadrilogy?
brucewaynegretzky
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I'd love it, but it would never receive the widespread praise that Nolan has gotten. It's the unfortunate reality of superhero movies.
Phoenician_Viking
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Where that leave Mr. Freeze?
In the Ice Age.
God no! If they revert back to comic booky Batman I am out! Nolan has shown how it needs to be done!
they will, i can't imagine a dark and brooding Nolan-batman in a Justice League movie and I can't imagine WB not doing a JL-movie after Avengers dominating the boxoffices worldwide.
Given the cold shoulder.
Tetralogy works too.
brucewaynegretzky
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Mr. Freeze is a tragic villain who Batman is trying to simultaneously help and stop at the same time. BTAS did him really well early on and began screwing him up more and more as the DCAU progressed.
Left out in the cold.
I don't know Spiderman 2 and Iron Man and The Avengers were all met with great praise, and they all lean on the much lighter side.
Comic batman, yeah, but movie batman has never been presented as brilliant.
Razgriz-Specter
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Sherlock Holmes 2 had a much better ending reveal imo probably only second to Joker's card.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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As the villain in Nolan's fourth Batman film.
Bunch of shit, because you're only going to compare it unfavourably to Nolan's films.
I would like them to keep it serious and brooding and dark but also have the fantastical. Play it straight when Bats is fighting Clayface or Man-Bat.
You can't keep making morose Batman movies forever. Not to mention that I think the absolute worst thing they could do post-Nolan is make Batman movies in the vein of Nolan but not made by Nolan. I think they should go in a completely new direction. Maybe something like I said, or maybe a Batman Beyond-esque take, or whatever.
Just go in a new direction, for gods sake.
Not to mention, comic Batman's becoming more and more of a Gary Stu over the years. He's awesome at everything.
Movie Batman is sufficiently smart, but not ridiculously so.
brucewaynegretzky
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They don't get the same type of recognition Nolan has. Out of that list the only movie I'd consider on the same level as any of Nolan's movies in terms of quality is Iron Man though.
I'm personally of the opinion that Raimi's movies got judged on a less harsh scale due to the failures of superhero movies in the past, but the modern hero movies have pretty much made them par for the course.
I hate Marvel as a general rule, but the original Iron Man is fantastic.
I'm not going to get into a debate about that movie on this thread, but the ending of that movie ruined what made the ending of the book so great.
brucewaynegretzky
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The Batman was actually pretty good and dismissed far too quickly due to its interpretation of the Joker.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Fuck that. Begins and Knight are among my favorite movies ever, but they need to go somewhere else with it after this.
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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Correction: IN DE EYES EHDG!
Brave and the Bold's pretty good if you like campy Batman.
A quick search gave me this. Different but fuck it, we need different. I'll be upset if someone tries to ape Nolan and fails immensely.
Really want to get the TAS on DVD/Blu-Ray
TrAcEr_x90
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hahha, I was exactly the same way.....looking closer at the screen as the scene went on. Super intense.
Razgriz-Specter
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I agree with this.
disliked Brave and the Bold till I actually watched a few episodes.
and Beware the Batman is looking interesting.
I still want a TDKReturns in 20 years with white hair Oldman, grey hair Bale, recast Joker and returning Nolan. Still want it, even if Batman dies. Zombies are all the rage innit.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Realistically, I think the direction they have to go is darker. Make it feel more akin to the comics with Batman's super genius intellect and gadgets, but make the story and look of Gotham dark/gothic as all hell. I think a good template for that "feel" would actually be the concept art for The Joker:
A live action Dark Knight Returns movie seems like it'd be awfully redundant following Rises.
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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TAS ever released on blu-ray?!
Not if done by Verhoeven. The social commentary/satire is ripe for the picking in that book, which is 110% in Verhoeven's wheelhouse.
brucewaynegretzky
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Just checked the other day. I didn't see it. I'm hoping one day they release the entire DCAU in one HD set.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Long term canonical plan for Batman Beyond?
Hmm... though so. *hugs DVD set*
Razgriz-Specter
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Vol 2 of TAS's soundtrack is being sold at Comic Con?
Must buy.
edit: Catwoman's theme is on it, hell yes!
Must buy.
edit: Catwoman's theme is on it, hell yes!
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Amazing.
It's just that Rises seems to be taking some plot elements from that book already.
Eventually down the road? Sure, why not?
The first new Bat film after Rises, though? Nah.
![QUOTE]:'( This really hits me hard. Just imagining this as the ending to Rises... I would not be able to drive home from the theater.](http://i.minus.com/ibe4U5ln5gLFzr.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]:'( This really hits me hard. Just imagining this as the ending to Rises... I would not be able to drive home from the theater.)
Long term canonical plan for Batman Beyond?
This would be beautiful
Hero_of_the_Day
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What do you guys thing about a young hip Bruce Wayne going through high school?
brucewaynegretzky
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I'd love to see a well done Robin-centric movie series leading to his career as Nightwing. I'll never get it....
brandonh83
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I like the score but there's only a couple of standout tracks to me. I dunno, I think Zimmer is very overrated sometimes. It seems like most of the good music in the Nolan films were from Newton Howard.
Zimmer just seems to mostly write very random, "blargh" kind of music that's just really loud and powerful instead of compelling. I think it will go along with the film better than it does as a standalone listening experience.
Zimmer just seems to mostly write very random, "blargh" kind of music that's just really loud and powerful instead of compelling. I think it will go along with the film better than it does as a standalone listening experience.
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